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Old 05-23-2009, 04:28 PM   #1
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Default Patton Is Not A DNR Disaster

There have been few people commenting on the cleanness of Patton sighting it as a DNR Disaster.

Yes it is very clean and shiny with only a mild bit of print damage most of it in the credits at the begging yet.

But the true product of over DNR softness was not present.

There was lot and i mean a lot of detail and fantastic colours. Textures and skin tones are near flawless given most of the film is set in some rather hot places there wasn't one overlay red face.

I can't remember Patton personally being a very grainy film any way. Given almost 98% is shot in broad daylight might explain that.

Patton is one the greatest films of all time with one of the best Blu-ray transfers for a back catalogue title.

Don't listen to the naysayers buy this and you won't regret it. Especially if you have a nice sound system as well.
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:39 PM   #2
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If you cant comment by saying something constructive, dont comment at all. You havent been here that long so I dont know how you could be "going again"
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There have been few people commenting on the cleanness of Patton sighting it as a DNR Disaster.

Yes it is very clean and shiny with only a mild bit of print damage most of it in the credits at the begging yet.

But the true product of over DNR softness was not present.

There was lot and i mean a lot of detail and fantastic colours. Textures and skin tones are near flawless given most of the film is set in some rather hot places there wasn't one overlay red face.

I can't remember Patton personally being a very grainy film any way. Given almost 98% is shot in broad daylight might explain that.

Patton is one the greatest films of all time with one of the best Blu-ray transfers for a back catalogue title.

Don't listen to the naysayers buy this and you won't regret it. Especially if you have a nice sound system as well.
I think the issues were that with a screen over 100"the DNR is very bad, but with a screen say 42" you wouldn't notice. So it depends on what size your tv is.
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If you cant comment by saying something constructive, dont comment at all. You havent been here that long so I dont know how you could be "going again"
Are you referring to me? I have been here since January last year Mr April
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:55 PM   #6
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Are you referring to me? I have been here since January last year Mr April
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:58 PM   #7
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Totally screen dependent. Looks terrific on a 30. On my iPhone it shines and you'd never know it was garbage but there's no grain and i love it.
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Oh, wow, this brings me back to May of 2008,

Nostalgia is the best,

You know, I've had it since then but have yet to watch it? I'll give it a pop today.
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How does the OP explain the extremely waxy appearance of actor's faces? Which is a trademark of DNR.
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How does the OP explain the extremely waxy appearance of actor's faces? Which is a trademark of DNR.
No kidding. I'm watching on 42", and the actors appear as if they're wearing too much makeup.

The beards (shaven, of course) look not like hair, but dark smears.

This really isn't up for argument.
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This really isn't up for argument.
Agreed. The evidence speaks for itself.

I think this is more of a situation where the OP is defending their purchase to themselves.
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The evidence doesn't even have to speak for itself. You're right that it's a fine-grained film, but Fox confirmed that an errant telecine operator turned the DNR dial up to 11, determined to eliminate that little bit of remaining grain. They have since taken steps to ensure it doesn't happen again
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Of course it does have some DNR to it but nothing to over the top, But the larger the screen i guess can make it more apparent.

I have a nice 40 inch screen so i guess im not having the same experience as someone with 100 inch screen.

But then the question comes to my mind where these movies mastered to be viewed at 100 inch's or more worth of screen.

They are for home viewing.
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But then the question comes to my mind where these movies mastered to be viewed at 100 inch's or more worth of screen.

They are for home viewing.
Rusty, there's a flaw in this argument - but I'll let someone else take it, I'm lazy.
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Of course it does have some DNR to it but nothing to over the top
Are you sure we are talking about the same movie?
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OP, please read this:

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Ummm because the two other threads on this turned into arguments..thats how come! And what I said WAS constructive! Are you the constructive police?
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Hi. Up until a few days ago, I was one to say that sometimes DNR can make something like Patton look extraordinary...and over my 46 inch screen it did. Incredible pop. But a few days ago, out of curiousity because people were talking about it not being good when blown up onto a big screen, I finally played Patton over my HD projector. I was stunned how much detail washed out. There is a scene where Patton and others are meeting, and Karl Malden's face was very soft, kind of blurry, lacking detail. Even the opening sequence, which I thought looked amazing on my 46" suddenly wasn't great. When Patton starts out talking and he is still a small figure beneath the flag, he is blurry. The flag is sharp, but there is no detail to define him.
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But then the question comes to my mind where these movies mastered to be viewed at 100 inch's or more worth of screen.

They are for home viewing.
A film is a film!

And how one chooses to view it has nothing to do with proper mastering. Granted that there is a large group of people who do not seem to differentiate between grain and noise, and another, convinced that noise reduction is always detrimental (which it isn't), Patton is intolerable. Fortunately, as Jeff pointed out above, Fox have taken the proper steps to ensure that such treatments are not approved for release in the future.



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