Resume Play feature on Blu-ray titles - Blu-ray Forum

4K2K · 07-11-2009, 09:36 PM

Would you like it if Resume Play worked on Blu-ray titles, just like it does on standard definition DVDs?

By Resume Play, I mean after you press stop on a Blu-ray title pressing play will always continue on from the point you were at when you pressed stop instead of having to load the entire disc from the start again and then go into scene selection to get back to approximately where you were. Same thing for when you press pause for a while and then the Blu-ray player automatically goes into stop mode.

steve_dave · 07-11-2009, 10:23 PM

Resume play works on non BD-J titles. Its a technical limitation of the BD-J programming language.

Bruce Morrison · 07-11-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

Resume play works on non BD-J titles. Its a technical limitation of the BD-J programming language.

I suspect it's more a limitation of the way it's been implemented thus far. Surely it can't be beyond the capabilities of software and hardware designers to come up with a way of doing for Blu-ray what DVDs and DVD players have been capable of doing for years.

steve_dave · 07-11-2009, 10:34 PM

No, it is a technical limition of BD-J:

From Sony:

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Resume play won't work because BD-J application in the disc disables the resume function. The Java software controls playback plus all the interactive content (like what Windows OS does on the computer). When you hit stop, or turn off the player, the Java application on the disc reboots in the next playback. This results in resuming playback from the beginning of the disc. Therefore you should use pause instead of stop for Blu-ray disc that supports BD-J application.

Sony's compromise for Resume is the Bookmark function:

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Is there a resume playback equivalent in Blu-ray player that utilizes Java?

Yes, it is possible using Bookmarks on the Blu-ray disc depending on disc type.

Grim Reaper · 07-11-2009, 11:53 PM

yes...

BluePotato · 07-12-2009, 05:04 AM

I thought I've read that resume is a feature on a disc-by-disc basis, although there must certainly be a bd player intelligent enough to figure it out.

MOONPHASE · 07-12-2009, 07:07 AM

PS3 has it but as mentioned before not on the BD-Java titles but other titles resume play will work

dcowboy7 · 07-12-2009, 10:15 PM

Yea sure why not.

newtype · 07-12-2009, 10:19 PM

Yes I would love it.

Kryptonic · 07-12-2009, 10:36 PM

This is the thing I like least about the format. It's so silly that it can't perform the simplest of functions aside from on non BD-J discs.

Bookmarks are a good solution to the problem, I'll admit, but it's still annoying.

FlipperWasIrish · 07-12-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kryptonic

This is the thing I like least about the format. It's so silly that it can't perform the simplest of functions aside from on non BD-J discs.

Bookmarks are a good solution to the problem, I'll admit, but it's still annoying.

At least for me, all features work fine on non-BD-J discs.

PH3AR · 07-12-2009, 11:02 PM

I can never stop a movie and pick it back up like a couple hours later i just cant do it i make sure i have enough time to finishes a movie

Kryptonic · 07-12-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FlipperWasIrish

At least for me, all features work fine on non-BD-J discs.

What I mean is that the only discs that will resume when stopped are non BD-J discs, a lot of Warner titles for example.

Anthony P · 07-12-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Morrison

I suspect it's more a limitation of the way it's been implemented thus far. Surely it can't be beyond the capabilities of software and hardware designers to come up with a way of doing for Blu-ray what DVDs and DVD players have been capable of doing for years.

my guess a bit of both. I think if they realy wanted, then they could make it work on the title, but BD-J is not the same as DVD, it is a computer program and that means that it needs to run from the start. So it can't be "like DVD" if BD-J is used. On the other hand could there be an other option? I don't know, but maybe one day someone will find a way to make it work some way.

Anthony P · 07-12-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_dave

No, it is a technical limition of BD-J:

From Sony:

Sony's compromise for Resume is the Bookmark function:

I am no BD-J programmer, and not sure what it can and can't do or how much info it can get from the player. But let's make a completely made up example. Let's say a title is authored so that when launching it resets (erases) a special bookmark that we will call "LSL" (last stop location), if you press stop during play back (watching movie) then it sets the LSL book mark to be that location. Now when loading the movie it checks if there is a LSL bookmark and if so loads the stuff but starts the movie from that locattion.

This is obviously a simplification, with BD-J there can be much more and that complicates stuff. For example:
Sony has Blue wizard on many titles (i.e. choose what extras to include during play back...) so would it know what extras you picked to add them back during play back?
Does BD-J offer to the program to know and over ride "stop" at least long enough to record the book mark?
BD-live connection, capabilities of player.... most likely are still needed at loading, and the rest for creating the menu and stuff, so maybe "start back on play" might not be realistic.

Petra_Kalbrain · 07-13-2009, 12:50 AM

I would only want this feature if it remained exclusively functional so long as the player is turned on.

I can't watch half a film, stop for a few days/weeks and then come back to the same point to finish it. I have to start a film over again if I'm interrupted. The films are made to be watched from start to finish. Doing anything else is not experiencing the film properly. And, as a result, I would hate it if I put a disc into the player and it took me straight to the middle of the film.

I'd rather not have Resume Play incorporated at all. It's bad for the artistic element of the film productions.

Blodiak · 07-13-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Yea sure why not.

yhea why not ?!?!? who could vote no ???!?!

Petra_Kalbrain · 07-13-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blodiak

yhea why not ?!?!? who could vote no ???!?!

I could... and did!

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I would only want this feature if it remained exclusively functional so long as the player is turned on.

I can't watch half a film, stop for a few days/weeks and then come back to the same point to finish it. I have to start a film over again if I'm interrupted. The films are made to be watched from start to finish. Doing anything else is not experiencing the film properly. And, as a result, I would hate it if I put a disc into the player and it took me straight to the middle of the film.

I'd rather not have Resume Play incorporated at all. It's bad for the artistic element of the film productions.

Trean · 07-13-2009, 01:07 AM

With profile 2.0 compliant players there should be space allocated within memory for anything that needs to be saved and it should be saved and saved over when a disc stops multiple times. To allow multiple discs some sort of movie title could precede the saved data.

Its seems more like a standard that needs to implemented in the software programming of all BD-J discs. Certainly not an impossibility.

scweb13 · 07-13-2009, 01:29 AM

I guess it's too much of a hassle to press one little button to save (bookmark) your progress on a movie. Kind of like if your writting a Word document, you just don't exit without saving.

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07-11-2009, 09:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
4K2K Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Region B	Resume Play feature on Blu-ray titles Would you like it if Resume Play worked on Blu-ray titles, just like it does on standard definition DVDs? By Resume Play, I mean after you press stop on a Blu-ray title pressing play will always continue on from the point you were at when you pressed stop instead of having to load the entire disc from the start again and then go into scene selection to get back to approximately where you were. Same thing for when you press pause for a while and then the Blu-ray player automatically goes into stop mode. Last edited by 4K2K; 07-11-2009 at 09:41 PM.

07-11-2009, 11:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Grim Reaper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Stowe, Pennsylvania Blu-ray collection:619 PS3 collection:30 Trading Score:2	yes... Posts: 7,400 05/18/2012 PS+ Member Since 12/6/2010 PS3/Vita: GrimReaper4383 360: CMaggotbone Pre-Ordered: 1) Assassin's Creed III 360 2) Borderlands II 360 3) Halo 4 Limited Edition PS3 Themes (Static & Dynamic) 360 Haven My BD Collection My GT5 Profile Uncharted 3 Treasure Locations GT5 Trophy Guide My GT5 Car List My Trophy Profile

07-12-2009, 07:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
MOONPHASE Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:California Blu-ray collection:117 DVD collection:349 PS3 collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:19	PS3 has it but as mentioned before not on the BD-Java titles but other titles resume play will work IGN and RPGamer- Ar tonelico II Best PS2 Game Award for 2009 Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel out now

07-12-2009, 10:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
dcowboy7 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Pequannock, NJ Blu-ray collection:74	Yea sure why not. 48fps 240Hz good / Grain bad.

07-11-2009, 10:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
steve_dave Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2008	Resume play works on non BD-J titles. Its a technical limitation of the BD-J programming language.

07-12-2009, 05:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
BluePotato Member Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray collection:113 Trading Score:25	I thought I've read that resume is a feature on a disc-by-disc basis, although there must certainly be a bd player intelligent enough to figure it out.

07-12-2009, 10:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
newtype Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray collection:129 Trading Score:6	Yes I would love it.

07-12-2009, 10:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kryptonic Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009	This is the thing I like least about the format. It's so silly that it can't perform the simplest of functions aside from on non BD-J discs. Bookmarks are a good solution to the problem, I'll admit, but it's still annoying.

07-12-2009, 11:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
PH3AR Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Dover, Pennsylvania PSN:WORKINtheCORNER Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:211 PS3 collection:25 Blu-ray reviews:2	I can never stop a movie and pick it back up like a couple hours later i just cant do it i make sure i have enough time to finishes a movie Last Blu-ray Watched:Transformers 3(PQ 5/5, AQ 5/5, MOVIE 5/5) Last Blu-ray(s) Bought:Transformers 3 Most Wanted Blus:1941,Animal House,Red Dawn,and Bad Boys II My Home Theater Thread \| PS3 Games \| My Trophy Card "oh wait... time to check in on a random Beef-Jerky or 50 Year Old Hot Actress thread"-Beta Man "Just wait till I start talking about my juicebar adventures.."-Moefiz "well, i have the best of both worlds. i'm married to my HT"-Sussudio

07-13-2009, 12:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC Blu-ray collection:438 PS3 collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:4	I would only want this feature if it remained exclusively functional so long as the player is turned on. I can't watch half a film, stop for a few days/weeks and then come back to the same point to finish it. I have to start a film over again if I'm interrupted. The films are made to be watched from start to finish. Doing anything else is not experiencing the film properly. And, as a result, I would hate it if I put a disc into the player and it took me straight to the middle of the film. I'd rather not have Resume Play incorporated at all. It's bad for the artistic element of the film productions. HT EQUIPMENT: Sony Bravia KDL-52W3000, Onkyo 805, B&W M-1s & AS-2 Sub, 60GB PS3, Toshiba HD-A2 PSN COLLECTION: Angry Birds, Bomberman Ultra, Flower, Joust, LBP: Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves, Magic Orbz, Super Stardust HD, Trials Of Topoq, Wipeout HD.

07-13-2009, 01:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
Trean Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:247 Blu-ray reviews:1	With profile 2.0 compliant players there should be space allocated within memory for anything that needs to be saved and it should be saved and saved over when a disc stops multiple times. To allow multiple discs some sort of movie title could precede the saved data. Its seems more like a standard that needs to implemented in the software programming of all BD-J discs. Certainly not an impossibility.

07-13-2009, 01:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA Blu-ray collection:380 PS3 collection:14 Trading Score:4	I guess it's too much of a hassle to press one little button to save (bookmark) your progress on a movie. Kind of like if your writting a Word document, you just don't exit without saving. I am disillusioned enough to know that no man's opinion on any subject is worth a damn unless backed up with enough genuine information to make him really know what he's talking about. - H. P. Lovecraft Pioneer Pro-101FD Signature Elite equipped.

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