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View Poll Results: Would you like it if Resume Play worked on all Blu-ray titles?
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Old 07-11-2009, 09:36 PM   #1
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Would you like it if Resume Play worked on Blu-ray titles, just like it does on standard definition DVDs?

By Resume Play, I mean after you press stop on a Blu-ray title pressing play will always continue on from the point you were at when you pressed stop instead of having to load the entire disc from the start again and then go into scene selection to get back to approximately where you were. Same thing for when you press pause for a while and then the Blu-ray player automatically goes into stop mode.

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Old 07-11-2009, 10:23 PM   #2
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Resume play works on non BD-J titles. Its a technical limitation of the BD-J programming language.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:27 PM   #3
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Resume play works on non BD-J titles. Its a technical limitation of the BD-J programming language.
I suspect it's more a limitation of the way it's been implemented thus far. Surely it can't be beyond the capabilities of software and hardware designers to come up with a way of doing for Blu-ray what DVDs and DVD players have been capable of doing for years.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:34 PM   #4
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No, it is a technical limition of BD-J:

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Resume play won't work because BD-J application in the disc disables the resume function. The Java software controls playback plus all the interactive content (like what Windows OS does on the computer). When you hit stop, or turn off the player, the Java application on the disc reboots in the next playback. This results in resuming playback from the beginning of the disc. Therefore you should use pause instead of stop for Blu-ray disc that supports BD-J application.
Sony's compromise for Resume is the Bookmark function:
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Yes, it is possible using Bookmarks on the Blu-ray disc depending on disc type.
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:53 PM   #5
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Old 07-12-2009, 05:04 AM   #6
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I thought I've read that resume is a feature on a disc-by-disc basis, although there must certainly be a bd player intelligent enough to figure it out.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:07 AM   #7
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PS3 has it but as mentioned before not on the BD-Java titles but other titles resume play will work
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:15 PM   #8
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Yea sure why not.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:19 PM   #9
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:36 PM   #10
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This is the thing I like least about the format. It's so silly that it can't perform the simplest of functions aside from on non BD-J discs.

Bookmarks are a good solution to the problem, I'll admit, but it's still annoying.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:59 PM   #11
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This is the thing I like least about the format. It's so silly that it can't perform the simplest of functions aside from on non BD-J discs.

Bookmarks are a good solution to the problem, I'll admit, but it's still annoying.
At least for me, all features work fine on non-BD-J discs.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:02 PM   #12
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I can never stop a movie and pick it back up like a couple hours later i just cant do it i make sure i have enough time to finishes a movie
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:13 PM   #13
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At least for me, all features work fine on non-BD-J discs.
What I mean is that the only discs that will resume when stopped are non BD-J discs, a lot of Warner titles for example.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:34 PM   #14
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I suspect it's more a limitation of the way it's been implemented thus far. Surely it can't be beyond the capabilities of software and hardware designers to come up with a way of doing for Blu-ray what DVDs and DVD players have been capable of doing for years.
my guess a bit of both. I think if they realy wanted, then they could make it work on the title, but BD-J is not the same as DVD, it is a computer program and that means that it needs to run from the start. So it can't be "like DVD" if BD-J is used. On the other hand could there be an other option? I don't know, but maybe one day someone will find a way to make it work some way.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:57 PM   #15
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No, it is a technical limition of BD-J:

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Sony's compromise for Resume is the Bookmark function:
I am no BD-J programmer, and not sure what it can and can't do or how much info it can get from the player. But let's make a completely made up example. Let's say a title is authored so that when launching it resets (erases) a special bookmark that we will call "LSL" (last stop location), if you press stop during play back (watching movie) then it sets the LSL book mark to be that location. Now when loading the movie it checks if there is a LSL bookmark and if so loads the stuff but starts the movie from that locattion.

This is obviously a simplification, with BD-J there can be much more and that complicates stuff. For example:
Sony has Blue wizard on many titles (i.e. choose what extras to include during play back...) so would it know what extras you picked to add them back during play back?
Does BD-J offer to the program to know and over ride "stop" at least long enough to record the book mark?
BD-live connection, capabilities of player.... most likely are still needed at loading, and the rest for creating the menu and stuff, so maybe "start back on play" might not be realistic.
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I would only want this feature if it remained exclusively functional so long as the player is turned on.

I can't watch half a film, stop for a few days/weeks and then come back to the same point to finish it. I have to start a film over again if I'm interrupted. The films are made to be watched from start to finish. Doing anything else is not experiencing the film properly. And, as a result, I would hate it if I put a disc into the player and it took me straight to the middle of the film.

I'd rather not have Resume Play incorporated at all. It's bad for the artistic element of the film productions.
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Yea sure why not.
yhea why not ?!?!? who could vote no ???!?!
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yhea why not ?!?!? who could vote no ???!?!
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I would only want this feature if it remained exclusively functional so long as the player is turned on.

I can't watch half a film, stop for a few days/weeks and then come back to the same point to finish it. I have to start a film over again if I'm interrupted. The films are made to be watched from start to finish. Doing anything else is not experiencing the film properly. And, as a result, I would hate it if I put a disc into the player and it took me straight to the middle of the film.

I'd rather not have Resume Play incorporated at all. It's bad for the artistic element of the film productions.
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:07 AM   #19
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With profile 2.0 compliant players there should be space allocated within memory for anything that needs to be saved and it should be saved and saved over when a disc stops multiple times. To allow multiple discs some sort of movie title could precede the saved data.

Its seems more like a standard that needs to implemented in the software programming of all BD-J discs. Certainly not an impossibility.
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I guess it's too much of a hassle to press one little button to save (bookmark) your progress on a movie. Kind of like if your writting a Word document, you just don't exit without saving.
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