British Film Institute (BFI) Discussion Thread - Page 44 - Blu-ray Forum

James78 · 06-19-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

It's extraordinary in hindsight that they would do this, isn't it? Even allowing for the lack of clear signals that there would in the future be a revenue-raising market for such recordings, it still seems ... wanton.

The BFI compiled a list of the best British television programmes and they are predominantly made by the BBC. So regardless of what we may not have, the BBC have still contributed an enormous amount to British television:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFI_TV_100

Yami · 06-19-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

The BFI compiled a list of the best British television programmes and they are predominantly made by the BBC. So regardless of what we may not have, the BBC have still contributed an enormous amount to British television:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFI_TV_100

I don't think anyone was implying that they haven't.

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

I don't think anyone was implying that they haven't.

I wasn't making a point to anyone in particular, Yami. I was just balancing out the fact that despite the loss of some programmes, the BBC have a lot for us to enjoy. I'm sure we'll have lots of good BFI releases because of this!

ravenus · 06-19-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

The first four DVD volumes of BBC Ghost Stories are now available to pre-order. The fifth and final disc will be released in October, as will a complete box-set. I know what I'm asking for this Christmas!
http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/search.asp...st+stories+vol

Oh man, I love adaptations of classic ghost stories. This sounds like it could be terrific

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenus

Oh man, I love adaptations of classic ghost stories. This sounds like it could be terrific

I'm excited too, ravenus! I've decided to wait and hope for a Blu-ray release, but I've put them on my rental list so I can have a look at the picture quality.

rock, stone · 06-19-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

I wasn't making a point to anyone in particular, Yami. I was just balancing out the fact that despite the loss of some programmes, the BBC have a lot for us to enjoy. I'm sure we'll have lots of good BFI releases because of this!

One does not excuse the other. It isn't like the artists and artisans who actually made any of the programs are the ones who junked them. It is the case of decades long bureaucratic idiocy destroying hundreds, if not thousands of hours of Britain's cultural legacy.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 04:27 PM

The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip?

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rock, stone

One does not excuse the other. It isn't like the artists and artisans who actually made any of the programs are the ones who junked them. It is the case of decades long bureaucratic idiocy destroying hundreds, if not thousands of hours of Britain's cultural legacy.

I suppose the best way to look at it is there's no use crying over spilt milk. We may as well focus on what we have, rather than what we don't. We can only enjoy what the BFI releases from the archive, not what doesn't exist anymore.

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip?

This suggests that they haven't checked? Why would they release something without checking if HD masters were available? It's all very peculiar, isn't it?

MacEachaidh · 06-19-2012, 04:35 PM

Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

I don't know. BFI releases often have booklets which provide information about the transfer, so we'll know when the first DVD is released.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

This suggests that they haven't checked? Why would they release something without checking if HD masters were available? It's all very peculiar, isn't it?

My interpretation is that the ones which have available HD masters will be released on Blu-Ray.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 05:16 PM

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

James78 · 06-19-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

I do see what you mean, but have you seen the recent Poirot Blu-rays? They are astonishingly good:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Poirot...2/#Screenshots

BarnDoor · 06-19-2012, 05:34 PM

Well I would hope BFI would check and clarify the issue prior to releasing the Ghost Stories on DVD. I don't want to be buying them only to learn that Blu-rays will come next year.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

I do see what you mean, but have you seen the recent Poirot Blu-rays? They are astonishingly good:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Poirot...2/#Screenshots

Very interesting, hadn't seen that before. Just goes to show the potential if they take the time to do a proper transfer. I'd got excited about the Brideshead Revisited Blu-ray release in the US, but it looks no different to the DVD. If it were given a decent transfer I think it could look amazing.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

16mm has several times as much resolution to be fit for Blu-Ray!

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

16mm has several times as much resolution to be fit for Blu-Ray!

Not considerably more. 16mm is closer to 2K (which is marginally more than 1080p), whereas 35mm is virtually 4K. There's not enough difference to be noticeable, hence my understanding why there's a reluctance from many distributors to release 16mm on Blu-ray (I know for a fact the BFI will only release 16mm on DVD - see Gazwrx for a good example).

NoirFan · 06-19-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

(I know for a fact the BFI will only release 16mm on DVD - see Gazwrx for a good example).

All 16mm films BFI have released on Blu-ray:

Faces
Shadows
Nightbirds
Anti-Clock

I'm sure there are others.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 08:39 PM

Haha fair one - should have checked my facts there (especially as I own a couple of them)!

06-19-2012, 04:27 PM	#867
Yami Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:122 DVD collection:46 PS3 collection:1	The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip? Follow me on twitter

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06-19-2012, 04:35 PM	#870
MacEachaidh Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Edge of the Accretion Disc Blu-ray collection:457 DVD collection:25 Trading Score:1	Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

06-19-2012, 05:16 PM	#873
Opdef Active Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Shropshire, England Blu-ray collection:1072	Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

06-19-2012, 05:34 PM	#875
BarnDoor Senior Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:622 Trading Score:3	Well I would hope BFI would check and clarify the issue prior to releasing the Ghost Stories on DVD. I don't want to be buying them only to learn that Blu-rays will come next year.

06-19-2012, 08:39 PM	#880
Opdef Active Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Shropshire, England Blu-ray collection:1072	Haha fair one - should have checked my facts there (especially as I own a couple of them)!