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Old 03-07-2016, 02:56 PM   #1
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United Kingdom Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - 15th Anniversary Edition (4K-mastered) - 10/10/16

Sony will be releasing a 15th Anniversary edition of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon on October 10th. As far as I know this will be a Mastered in 4K title.

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Old 03-09-2016, 07:19 PM   #2
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Nice.
I hope they release a double-pack with the sequel later in the year as well.
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Has the forum had server issues? Could have sworn this thread had at least a page worth of replies.

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Has the forum had server issues? Could have sworn this thread had at least a page worth of replies.

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It might have been the old thread for the pre- Mastered in 4K releases', DaveSimonH.
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Nice.
I hope they release a double-pack with the sequel later in the year as well.
Nah. The sequal is not directed by Ang Lee. And it's even much worse than the original one. Double pack it with the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon I will destroy it.
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Great! ...and packaged in a steelie would be nice
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Apparently the release was pushed to 31st October, spotted that Zoom have a preorder listed at 10 (9 after SIGNUP10 code). Amazon & HMV have it at 11.99



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FYI, Judging by the backcover - looks like UK standard release won't be getting the Dolby Atmos track / only DTS-MA 5.1 mentioned.
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FYI, Judging by the backcover - looks like UK standard release won't be getting the Dolby Atmos track / only DTS-MA 5.1 mentioned.
Given that does anyone know if the US version is region free. The earlier titles in these mastered in 4K were RA locked in US although only Bram Stoker's Dracula was a global Sony title, the others Leon (The Professional) and Fifth Element were only Sony in US and not UK and Europe.
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As per the backcover (US release) - It's region free. Therefore I would highly recommend importing this title.

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Hmmm... does two sets of subtitles "English" and "English SDH" mean one set is the original theatrical subtitles?
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Hmmm... does two sets of subtitles "English" and "English SDH" mean one set is the original theatrical subtitles?
Unfortunately not. SDH means "Subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing", so one just translates the dialogue, and the other adds sound information.
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FYI, Judging by the backcover - looks like UK standard release won't be getting the Dolby Atmos track / only DTS-MA 5.1 mentioned.
Oh that suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. What is it with Sony lately?

I've got the UK one pre-ordered at HMV for 19.99 but the US is 20.54 at wowHD, I know what I'm doing next! (Much better cover art on the US UHD too)

(and yes, I know that the UHD will have the atmos regardless but I want it on the regular disc too)
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The UHD case doesn't even say the standard Blu-ray has HD audio, but it states this on the standard Blu-ray case. I wonder if they've just messed up regarding not mentioning the Atmos audio or is it really not there? I don't really care about Atmos, so I'll grab the 9 Zoom one anyway, very happy at that price.
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Oh that suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. What is it with Sony lately?
They did the same with Dracula in the few European countries they released the 4K remaster (like Germany, Spain or Japan) : new restoration, but Atmos got replaced by DTS HD MA 5.1. Might have to do with accomodate more bandwidth to all the lossy dubs Sony crams on their European discs (they do the same kind of thing with French UHD : US UHD gets French lossless dub, but the French UHD gets a lossy one because some French UHD releases have 11 dubs).
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The UHD case doesn't even say the standard Blu-ray has HD audio, but it states this on the standard Blu-ray case. I wonder if they've just messed up regarding not mentioning the Atmos audio or is it really not there? I don't really care about Atmos, so I'll grab the 9 Zoom one anyway, very happy at that price.
I noticed that on the UHD case too (saying the Blu has got Dolby Digital 5.1! ) so something might've been ballsed up along the line, it's like they've been taking lessons from Warners on how not to give a shit when doing Blu-ray covers.

However I think tenia is correct, Sony removed the Atmos audio on the Euro release of Dracula and it seems as if the same has happened here.
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They did the same with Dracula in the few European countries they released the 4K remaster (like Germany, Spain or Japan) : new restoration, but Atmos got replaced by DTS HD MA 5.1. Might have to do with accomodate more bandwidth to all the lossy dubs Sony crams on their European discs (they do the same kind of thing with French UHD : US UHD gets French lossless dub, but the French UHD gets a lossy one because some French UHD releases have 11 dubs).
They might have, but the Supreme Cinema Series release of Bram Stoker's Dracula was around 32GB (the original release was about the same as well), so there was plenty of room to put on an Atmos track in several languages if they'd wanted. I wouldn't be surprised if there was contractual malarkey at play.
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I noticed that on the UHD case too (saying the Blu has got Dolby Digital 5.1! ) so something might've been ballsed up along the line, it's like they've been taking lessons from Warners on how not to give a shit when doing Blu-ray covers.

However I think tenia is correct, Sony removed the Atmos audio on the Euro release of Dracula and it seems as if the same has happened here.
Just read Tenia's post, so yeah, I'd imagine that it's most likely been removed. Looking forward to seeing this anyway, I have a feeling it'll look AMAZING, much like Leon's 4K remaster. And hopefully less like the sharpened TFE (which is still good though).
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They might have, but the Supreme Cinema Series release of Bram Stoker's Dracula was around 32GB (the original release was about the same as well), so there was plenty of room to put on an Atmos track in several languages if they'd wanted.
Disc space is one thing, but bandwidth also is limited by the BDA specs.

Maximum authorized A+V bitrate is 48 Mbps. An Atmos track can eat already 8-9 Mbps. Adding a 2nd one would mean almost half the authorized total AV bitrate go to 2 audio tracks, leaving the video stuck with the rest.

That's why you don't see lots of BDs with 2 lossless Atmos tracks or why some concerts with 96/24 tracks can end up with relatively low video bitrate and remaining disc space but still almost maxed out total bitrate. Take Muse Live at Olympic Stadium Rome : the disc is only 34 Gb and the AVB 26 Mbps, but with 2 96/24 tracks to accomodate (LPCM 2.0 + DTS HD MA 5.1), the total bitrate is 42 Mbps.

If you don't want to recode the video everytime you're messing around with the numbers of soundtracks, it seems more easily accepted to either downgrade the dubs to lossy encodes and/or downgrade the original soundtrack.
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There is an overhead built in via the buffer fill rate which allows video bitrates alone to sneak up on 50 Mb/s, albeit only briefly.
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