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Old 01-22-2010, 06:21 PM   #1
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:42 PM   #2
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Yep, those were good.

However #4 is my personal pet peeve.

It has become so BAD it just boggles my mind that they keep on doing it.


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Old 01-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #3
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Yep, those were good.

However #4 is my personal pet peeve.

It has become so BAD it just boggles my mind that they keep on doing it.


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Yep. #4 is the worst. AAAAKkkkkkk
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:23 PM   #4
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Cinemassacre and AVG are two of my most favorite video series.
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:34 PM   #5
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#8 The 360 Shot
I would consider that a "normal" filming technique/style, not a cliche.

#1 Stupid Villians
100% true especially in war movies. The enemy in the film is usually always retarded.
Since it's Americans telling the story it turns out usually to be the "super Americans" killing either africans/vietmanese/germans. Running out in the open (for no apparent reason) and getting flanked easily are the most common foil up for the "stupid villians".

Of course in history books it's the victor of the war that gets to tell how it happened.

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Old 01-22-2010, 11:34 PM   #6
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We know that the CineMassacre webmasters must have read any of three entire books devoted to the much more specific entries of Roger Ebert's "Little Movie Glossary" column, since they stole "The Talking Killer".

But if they had, you'd think they'd have picked up on the Climbing Killer, the Masked Swordsman (guess what's the surprise, when the fencing/motorcycle/martial-arts helmet's removed? ) and The Fruit-Cart chase--not to mention other such established Ebert-trademarked contributions to our mainstream film-criticism vocabulary as "The Meet-Cute" and "The Idiot-Plot".
Yep...All Roger's. (Although Gene might've contributed a few of them.)

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#5 - The Matrix Parody
(And in our generation, kiddies, we had to grow up with the Brando-Godfather Parody, and...the Patton Flag-Speech Parody:
We have kids who had literally never seen Patton in their lives before it came out on Blu-ray, and we're STILL getting parodies beaten into the ground--It's like some common vocabulary, where people don't know why and just parody the parodies...Which is pretty much where Matrix scenes are headed.)

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#3 - The Comedic Pause
No, this is what we mean by "specific":
The pause itself is not the cliche'--The cliche' is either:
- A: The record-scrape (People we don't HAVE vinyl records anymore!--Where are these scrapes coming from?...Grandmaster Flash?? And why did Michael Bay actually put a trailer pause-scrape-and-zoom in one of the dialogue scenes of Transformers 1??)
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- B: The scene where somebody is uncontrollably headed either for a collision with either a tree or an animal's nether regions; cut immediately to bystander going "Oo...That's gotta hurt and/or will leave a mark. " WITH pause-and-scrape.

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Nice post! i agree with most #4 is the most annoying one but #1 is a close second
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:07 AM   #8
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:09 AM   #9
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I hate that stupid record skipping noise too, not even sure some of the ipod generation even know what it is.
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We know that the CineMassacre webmasters must have read any of three entire books devoted to the much more specific entries of Roger Ebert's "Little Movie Glossary" column, since they stole "The Talking Killer".

But if they had, you'd think they'd have picked up on the Climbing Killer, the Masked Swordsman (guess what's the surprise, when the fencing/motorcycle/martial-arts helmet's removed? ) and The Fruit-Cart chase--not to mention other such established Ebert-trademarked contributions to our mainstream film-criticism vocabulary as "The Meet-Cute" and "The Idiot-Plot".
Yep...All Roger's. (Although Gene might've contributed a few of them.)
Yes! The Fruit Cart! I specifically remember Gene and Roger talking about this on their show, and my eye still locks on every fruit cart I see in chase scenes to this day. They rarely survive the chase.
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I cant see it. Denied at work.
Same here. I'll have to check it out later.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:35 AM   #12
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They are all bad but the ones i hate the most is the car not starting as you know it's going to happen and I say, "not again!" and yes stupid villians, the Bond movies are decidely the worst as you know the villians could have taken care of him a lot earlier.
Another one I have that's not in the list is lately in most slapstick violence the man always gets at least one shot in the groin. Enough already!
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:14 AM   #13
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I agree with most of them, but #8 is not a cliche (neks beat me to it), and when done right, it's great. What if there's not enough room to move the camera around? Hitchcock taught us to spin the actors instead.

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forgot 2:
(1) group of "good guys" fights group of "bad guys". leader of "good guys" and leader of "bad guys" survive. they chase each other to a remote area (within a city), usually a boat dock, storage facility, etc. gun fight ensues between good and bad guy. good guy gets grazed/injured and/or apparently killed, but not actually killed. bad guy killed (either by good guy and/or surviving member of group of good guys who shoots bad guy from an angle)

(2) epic battle sequence: good army marches at bad army. dudes fly all over the place. thousands of good and bad dudes fight. leader of good army survives. leader of bad army survives. the two leaders meet in the middle, in a large area opened up by each army, to accomodate a "match" within the big match. leaders fight in the middle while some dudes look on and other dudes fight.
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360 shot can be used effectively IMO but it is over used sometimes (this kiss in Transformers 2 just made me nauseous).

The Bell: most of my teachers actually do not ever keep track of time.

Otherwise, the rest are over-used. One that they should have mentioned was the plane trying to take off but it falls just below the frame. GASP! Are they gunna make it? I think 2012 used it 4 or 5 times.
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"If you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!"

How many franchises would come to an end if the villain followed that piece of advice.

Except Goldfinger which is brilliant.

"Do you epect me to talk, Goldfinger?"
"NO Mr Bond, i expect you to die!"
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That's an excellent video, thanks for posting.

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#8 The 360 Shot
I would consider that a "normal" filming technique/style, not a cliche.
I would disagree.

Because regular filming style is to keep the audience in the same 180 degree arch not circle around the subject.

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I would disagree.

Because regular filming style is to keep the audience in the same 180 degree arch not circle around the subject.

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While that is indeed regular filming style, I'm not sure how you can say it's not a normal technique when 360 is perceived to be overused. If something is overused it logically follows that it is a common and normal technique. Whether it is the traditional way in which scenes are "supposed" to be filmed is irrelevant.
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I like #8 myself, it take the movie out of the sitcom genre, ever notice you never see one whole side of someones house, yeah I know because its no there, but I like thsi shot in movies to give a whole world feel to it.
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