True Blood (Season 4: June 26 2011)

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Omen2002

You know what, I don't know that I recall other vampires really saying much about smelling something different with Sookie. I seem to remember them commenting that something about her seems different or something like that. It's when they taste her blood that they go cuckoo for cocopuffs. Maybe the faerie guy is 'pure' faerie and so, he smells tasty. You're right though. You would think Sookie would still have some sort of.. cookie smell. Hopefully they're not gonna set him up to be a 4th love interest for Sookie.

..and I wonder how many cast members got a good laugh at the guy who plays Hoyt when they saw his Fangtasia get-up. I know I was

Maybe it was Old Faerie Spice.

[jayembee]

It seemed fairly clear to me that the idea is that Sookie being only part Faerie is why the vampires don't flip out over her smell. Claude being pure Faerie is a different matter.

Originally Posted by Omen2002

Hopefully they're not gonna set him up to be a 4th love interest for Sookie.

Well, the show doesn't seem to have a problem with changing things from the books, so the following might not apply. But that said...

[Note: I don't consider the following a spoiler, bit some people get so freaked out by anything that smacks of one, so I'm adding a spoiler tag]

[Show spoiler]In the books, Claude is a brother to Claudine (Sookie's "Fairy Godmother" from last season) and they are both relatives of Sookie from the Faerie side of her family. He's also gay. So if anything, Ball &co. might make him a future love interest for Lafayette.

[Starpower67]

Well this show seems to be all over the place right now. It is really starting to loose me. It seems like there is way to many storylines and not enough time or episodes per season to make it flow well. I wasn't a fan of Eric releasing Pam, she is my favorite character on the show and I bet we see a lot less of her now. The stuff with the authority and Lillith I honestly couldn't care less about. I also have no interest in Andy's story at all either.I don't really like what they have done to Eric's character at all he has been really unlikeable to me this season. I would enjoy Sookie's character a lot more if they would give her more to do than simply being the character that almost every guy is in love with. It makes her more annoying to me, because she just leads all the guys on and won't really choose.

I am not saying this was ever a first class show, but it did use to keep me hooked every episode. Game of Thrones also had a lot of characters and stories to tell in a short number of episodes, but it seemed like it was handled better to me. That probably has something to do with the source material though. I am excited to see Russel again though I really enjoyed his arc in season 3, and I am hoping things pick up when we see him again.

[Omen2002]

Yeah I didn't care for Pam being released either. But, it made sense I guess if Eric figures if he has nobody under him, the Authority couldn't go after them or perhaps hurt them to get to Eric. In a way, it showed how much Eric actually does care about Pam, despite how he may act sometimes.

I didn't really get the whole demonic car bit. Seemed kinda silly, really. The story with the Authority, if they didn't have that, Eric and Bill would have nothing to do except deal with Russel when he shows up.

Speaking of the Authority in this ep... talk about badass moment.

[Show spoiler]

[supersix4]

lol great now we got those shifters back in the mix it's actually gotten absurd with how many stories they've got going on.. I'll finish the episode tonight, but good lord.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Starpower67

Well this show seems to be all over the place right now. It is really starting to loose me. It seems like there is way to many storylines and not enough time or episodes per season to make it flow well.

Not me. I thought the series was lagging the past two seasons, but this one is (mostly) grabbing me again. The only two running plotlines I'm not too excited about are the ones with Lafayette and Terry. And I didn't really think much of the Faerie Moulin Rouge in last night's episode. But the Authority plotline I'm really digging, and I like some of the character-building they're doing with both Pam and Jason.

I wasn't a fan of Eric releasing Pam, she is my favorite character on the show and I bet we see a lot less of her now.

Pam is my favorite character, too (and in the books as well), with Jessica a close second. Anyway, I really don't think that Eric releasing Pam is going to mean we'll see less of her. If anything, we might see more of her as she's going to have to be Tara's mentor now.

A couple of scenes I really liked last night were some of the quieter scenes: Eric and Pam sitting on the stairs, and Bill and Jessica.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by jayembee

But the Authority plotline I'm really digging, and I like some of the character-building they're doing with both Pam and Jason.

I agree, but the problem is it’s surrounded with excess. Every time I start digging it I get 15-30 minutes of judge, shifters, and Lafayette.

Same with the characters every time they focus on a character and you want it to get a little deeper, they vanish for long periods of time, or they throw them a bone with a 2 minute scene.

[Cook]

I'm loving this season and everything in it. Terry's story is getting interesting and I really wanna know whats stalking them. The drawings of the shadow with the red eyes was creepy as ****. Jason finding out his parents were killed by vampires is interesting. Tara is on her way to being less annoying. Lafayette is losing control. Honestly this show is actually intriguing again.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Cook

I'm loving this season and everything in it.

Then I would love to get your thoughts on the many, many, other story lines

Judge/Police
Shifter party now back in the fold
Wolves story arc
The Authority
Russell and where he will come in

Oh and Sooki

[Omen2002]

Originally Posted by Cook

Tara is on her way to being less annoying.

Very good point. I forget if it was last season or before that, that I grew tired of the character. But she could become pretty interesting depending how they use her.

Originally Posted by supersix4

Then I would love to get your thoughts on the many, many, other story lines

Judge/Police
Shifter party now back in the fold
Wolves story arc
The Authority
Russell and where he will come in

Oh and Sooki

I think the judge/police stuff served a way to use Andy and Jason and get them to the faerie club so Andy could see his 'friend' again and Jason could see Hadley and find out about his parents. It'll prob pay off more later, specially with Jason.

Shifters.. yeah I dunno what is up with that. Looked like they were shot. Unless it ties into something else already ongoing, it might have been better to show Sam running around with his friends and that's that.

the wolves, nothing much happened with them this past ep except Debbie's parents being told that she was dead. The pack wasn't around and since Alcede (however ya spell it) said he wasn't gonna be their leader, we hopefully won't have to see them much until prob in the last 2 eps of the season cause they'll most likely have something come to a head with the pack.

The Authority and Russel are kinda one storyline or have alot to do with each other. If that was all gone, people would complain that all Bill does is pine over Sookie and Eric just hangs out in Fangtasia the whole season. Except for their scenes with Pam or Jessica, they've done very little except Authority/Russel related things.

I actually really like Sam and would rather see his storyline then say, Arlene and Terry. I like their characters too. But, after this Terry story wraps up, hopefully they go back into the background once again. Break up Holly and Andy, let Holly fade into the background also. Keep Andy as a lovable loser.

Hey I wonder what Hoyt is up to. Last we saw he was looking for a late night hook-up of the fanged variety. If they killed him off, that would surely impact Jason and Jessica since it would indirectly be their fault.

[supersix4]

Omen you add more stories, I've forgotten about

[Starpower67]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Not me. I thought the series was lagging the past two seasons, but this one is (mostly) grabbing me again. The only two running plotlines I'm not too excited about are the ones with Lafayette and Terry. And I didn't really think much of the Faerie Moulin Rouge in last night's episode. But the Authority plotline I'm really digging, and I like some of the character-building they're doing with both Pam and Jason..

Well I thought last season was lagging to. I wasn't a fan of the witch story and the way it played out. Or the whole Eric had amnesia plot, where he treated everyone else like crap, but Sookie. My favorite seasons have been 1 and 3 I thought they flowed the best and kept me eagerly anticipating each new episode. I enjoyed the Fellowship of the Sun and Godric plot in season 2, but I did get so annoyed with the Maryann storline that went no where untill the last couple of episodes.

Originally Posted by jayembee

Pam is my favorite character, too (and in the books as well), with Jessica a close second. Anyway, I really don't think that Eric releasing Pam is going to mean we'll see less of her. If anything, we might see more of her as she's going to have to be Tara's mentor now..

I hope you are right and we continue to see a lot of her. Though I will miss her interactions with Eric very much. I thought together they brought out the best in each other. It will be interesting to see just how they handle the Tara vampire storline now. Hope they can bring out a more intersting side to Tara. I will say I am suprised she isn't brain damaged. She seemed like she was going to be in the first couple episodes she was a vampire, but its like they changed their mind and decided to make her normal.

Originally Posted by jayembee

A couple of scenes I really liked last night were some of the quieter scenes: Eric and Pam sitting on the stairs, and Bill and Jessica.

I agree those were my favorite scenes to! I think Eric and Bills characters are at their best when they are with their progenys instead of constantly fighting over Sookie. I just think for me personally there is just to many storylines going on in each episode for me. And some of the storylines like the one with Terry and Arlene I really don't care about. I don't like the way the vampire authority has been dealt with either. The leader guy seems to be all for main streaming but he also seems to follow the teachings of Lillith, I don't get how that really works.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Starpower67

but I did get so annoyed with the Maryann storline that went no where untill the last couple of episodes.

That was awful lol now Lafayette is

[Show spoiler] some kind of demon

WTF?

[Cook]

Originally Posted by supersix4

That was awful lol now Lafayette is

[Show spoiler] some kind of demon

WTF?

Like Jesus, he is a Brujo (witch), and that was established last season so its nothing new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brujer%C3%ADa

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Cook

Like Jesus, he is a Brujo (witch), and that was established last season so its nothing new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brujer%C3%ADa

I figured I skipped the hoopla if it wasn't Ryan, Eric, Sooki, or Bill it got skipped on hbo go

[Omen2002]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Omen you add more stories, I've forgotten about

I wonder if we'll end up having a vampire vs. faerie battle at some point. Guessing not this season though. Can't wait for Russell to get some regular screen time. Plus, who was the one that helped him escape that they keep eluding to.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Starpower67

I just think for me personally there is just to many storylines going on in each episode for me.

I dunno. I don't think it's any more true here than in Game of Thrones, and nobody seems to think it's a problem there.

I don't like the way the vampire authority has been dealt with either. The leader guy seems to be all for main streaming but he also seems to follow the teachings of Lillith, I don't get how that really works.

The teachings of Lilith aren't the problem. In the vampire religion, Lilith is the first of God's creations, and any vampire who believes in this religion is going to revere Lilith as the Mother of Vampires. Their religion also apparently teaches that God created Adam and Eve after Lilith. But while the Authority presumably believes that Adam and Eve were created to co-exist with Lilith as near-equals, the Sanguinistas believe that Adam and Eve were created to be food for Lilith.

So belief in Lilith per se isn't the problem. Lilith is Lilith, and is revered no matter which end of the religious spectrum a vampire is on. The conflict between the Mainstreamers and the Sanguinistas comes down to a disagreement about God's intended purpose for Adam and Eve.

[Starpower67]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I figured I skipped the hoopla if it wasn't Ryan, Eric, Sooki, or Bill it got skipped on hbo go

I do the same thing honestly. I dvr the new episodes and I find myself skipping a majority of the plots that are unintersting to me. Which have been quite a bit this season. I am not a fan of the direction the storyline is going for Lafayette either, which is a shame because I usually enjoy his storylines a lot. I hope he resolves the demon issue soon, so they can give him a more interesting plot. I have noticed on this show that almost all of the human characters have either turned supernatural or dabbled in supernatural powers. There is almost no one left who is a "normal" human that hasn't at least been involved in witchcraft.

[Starpower67]

Originally Posted by jayembee

I dunno. I don't think it's any more true here than in Game of Thrones, and nobody seems to think it's a problem there..

Well some people do make that complaint about Game of Thrones, and that is why some people don't like it, or think it's boring when they make episodes that just involve character development with all the different characters.

As for me I love Game of Thrones, but I do see why some people do not like that formula. For me it just seems to flow better on that show because all of the main players seem more connected in their motives. It's really just a personal preference though and I will admit when I first started watching GOT it was hard for me to intially get into it because their were so many different characters to care about.

GOT was set up like that from the begining though, where true blood wasn't. The first season of true blood didn't have near the amount of different storlines going on like it does now. Even the second season didn't. Sure the second season had the MaryAnn storyline and the fellowship of the sun storyline which weren't connected but those were the only 2 main storlyines that I remember from that season. I could be wrong though it's been a while

Originally Posted by jayembee

The teachings of Lilith aren't the problem. In the vampire religion, Lilith is the first of God's creations, and any vampire who believes in this religion is going to revere Lilith as the Mother of Vampires. Their religion also apparently teaches that God created Adam and Eve after Lilith. But while the Authority presumably believes that Adam and Eve were created to co-exist with Lilith as near-equals, the Sanguinistas believe that Adam and Eve were created to be food for Lilith.

So belief in Lilith per se isn't the problem. Lilith is Lilith, and is revered no matter which end of the religious spectrum a vampire is on. The conflict between the Mainstreamers and the Sanguinistas comes down to a disagreement about God's intended purpose for Adam and Eve.

I see, that does help clear that up. I didn't know they considered Adam and Eve and equals unlike the sanguanistas. Thanks for clearing that part up for me!

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