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Old 05-23-2010, 09:48 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if any stand alone blu Ray players have a volume control or boost function like the Playstation 3 has? I just run my Blu ray straight through the TV speakers and the volume is really low on Blu Ray movies on my Sony BDP-S360. But the PS3 has the volume control option where you can turn up the actual player's volume and that makes it sound great when I watch on my living room set up.

Anyone know of any stand alone players with this feature?

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Old 05-23-2010, 09:53 PM   #2
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Does anyone know if any stand alone blu Ray players have a volume control or boost function like the Playstation 3 has? I just run my Blu ray straight through the TV speakers and the volume is really low on Blu Ray movies on my Sony BDP-S360. But the PS3 has the volume control option where you can turn up the actual player's volume and that makes it sound great when I watch on my living room set up.

Anyone know of any stand alone players with this feature?

Thanks!
I believe some of the sony players employ the same option that the PS3 does. I know my parents year old BDP-BX1 bought at Costco does.

However, I'd advise against using this option and the volume should be left at 0. This is the greatest assurance to preventing a clipped signal being sent to the AVR and then being passed on to your speakers which can and will eventually damage them if not careful.
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Most Blu-ray players don't have this feature; it's your receiver that performs this task.
...A very few might add a feature "Boost" for the bass.

* Only from the multichannel analog outputs from those featured BD players.
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OPPO BDP 83 has volume. Not boost though. Keep in mind that normal TV sound is generally compressed dynamic range and cranked up (especially the ads). Most movie and music discs have much wider dynamic range and may average lower level than your regularly scheduled programming.
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OPPO BDP 83 has volume. Not boost though. Keep in mind that normal TV sound is generally compressed dynamic range and cranked up (especially the ads). Most movie and music discs have much wider dynamic range and may average lower level than your regularly scheduled programming.
You're talking in reference to the multichannel analog outs here, not the digital HDMI/Coaxial/Optical outs.
That you do need for the proper bass management, channel's delays and levels, when decoding the new audio high res and outputting it to your legacy Rotel pre/pro multichannel analog inputs.
And it ain't a master Volume level control either, it is individual channel's levels.

* That would also work for 2-channel analog stereo going to your TV analog stereo RCA input jacks.
...But oh my god why (in reference to the OP)?

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And it ain't a master Volume level control either, it is individual channel's levels.
True, it does not apply to digital out. It is a master volume control. It's totally separate from the channel trims.

Works fine with my "legacy" equipment.
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That's cool, but not many players have that feature; it is actually quite rare.
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Yeah, thats why I posted the information
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Yeah, thats why I posted the information
My panasonic plasma HDtV has a sound leveler option in audio options. Is this a similar feature to keep all input audio going into the television (regardless input type) at a constant or close to constant volume? I wasn't sure what that was for. Thanks
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I believe some of the sony players employ the same option that the PS3 does. I know my parents year old BDP-BX1 bought at Costco does.

However, I'd advise against using this option and the volume should be left at 0. This is the greatest assurance to preventing a clipped signal being sent to the AVR and then being passed on to your speakers which can and will eventually damage them if not careful.
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Most Blu-ray players don't have this feature; it's your receiver that performs this task.
...A very few might add a feature "Boost" for the bass.

* Only from the multichannel analog outputs from those featured BD players.
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OPPO BDP 83 has volume. Not boost though. Keep in mind that normal TV sound is generally compressed dynamic range and cranked up (especially the ads). Most movie and music discs have much wider dynamic range and may average lower level than your regularly scheduled programming.
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You're talking in reference to the multichannel analog outs here, not the digital HDMI/Coaxial/Optical outs.
That you do need for the proper bass management, channel's delays and levels, when decoding the new audio high res and outputting it to your legacy Rotel pre/pro multichannel analog inputs.
And it ain't a master Volume level control either, it is individual channel's levels.

* That would also work for 2-channel analog stereo going to your TV analog stereo RCA input jacks.
...But oh my god why (in reference to the OP)?

Ouf!
He's not using a receiver. He's running straight from BD player to his TV.

OP. If your TV doesnt support the lossless codecs you may need to set your player to downmix them to 2 channel or mono...depending on your TV.
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OP. If your TV doesnt support the lossless codecs you may need to set your player to downmix them to 2 channel or mono...depending on your TV.
I am not aware of any TVs that feature lossless decoding. With the Sony S360, the user doesn't need to specify a downmixed PCM output because the HDMI handshake controls that. If the TV says it needs a stereo PCM input, the player will decode and downmix to two channels.

The OP's complaint about the S360 is not unique. In fact, based on threads here and at other forums, it seems to be fairly common. When the S360 is connected directly to a TV, many report the output volume of lossless tracks on BD is considerably lower than the output volume of DVDs. While I have seen this discussed in a number of threads, I have not seen a solution.
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He's not using a receiver. He's running straight from BD player to his TV.
Ya I figured that a long time ago, did you?
... And did you read the last part of my previous post (in your quote)?

* Would be nice if the OP can buy a receiver and speakers and subwoofer, but money is tight for some folks.
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