Animation/CGI vs Live Action for demo - Blu-ray Forum

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 01:30 AM

Hi everyone.
Which type of content (animation/CGI or live action) in your opinion better expresses what blu ray is capable off.

You know, while animation is always more clean, creasp, and colourfull, nevertheless, good PQ/AQ of live action movies always had bigger influence on me.

Its my personal preferance that I prefer good PQ/AQ live action to animation. Its more jaw dropping for me.

Which one do you prefer. Vote and comment.

F-Man · 06-05-2010, 01:34 AM

I think it's very much a matter of what you prefer watching. For me, the enhanced clarity of the rich colors in hand drawn animation is more jarring when seen in hi-def compared with live-action.

I think that live-action being closer to reality, my brain more easily picks up and recreates the missing details on the fly when watching in SD, whereas it is not the case with drawings.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by F-Man

I think it's very much a matter of what you prefer watching. For me, the enhanced clarity of the rich colors in hand drawn animation is more jarring when seen in hi-def compared with live-action.

I think that live-action being closer to reality, my brain picks up the missing details more easily when watching in SD, whereas it is not the case with drawings.

Fair enough.

Massacre1 · 06-05-2010, 01:52 AM

Avatar basically is live action. What now?

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Massacre1

Avatar basically is live action. What now?

Avatar goes as

Probably CGI, as its computer generated.
But dont take 1 movie for final decision, its overall.

42041 · 06-05-2010, 02:18 AM

I prefer live action for demo purposes. Which is the main reason Avatar is not my favorite demo disc, when so much of it is completely CGI. Ultimately there's a lot more detail in the real world than 3d animators can put in their characters and environments.

bpmford · 06-05-2010, 02:20 AM

Actually an interesting topic!

I think my original answer would be animated, but I think the real answer is live action...

Everyone knows that animated movies will look great in blu, but they are digital and will always look as good as the technology allows!

solarrdadd · 06-05-2010, 02:23 AM

i do at least one of each when showing my system off to someone who wants to see what HT is all about. also, certain movies either live action or CG have special parts in them that are the best scenes to demo as well.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 42041

I prefer live action for demo purposes. Which is the main reason Avatar is not my favorite demo disc, when so much of it is completely CGI. Ultimately there's a lot more detail in the real world than 3d animators can put in their characters and environments.

Agreed.

bpmford · 06-05-2010, 02:36 AM

I agree too...

I would say great demo discs would be the purely live action ones, even an older one would really do it like Blade Runner!!!

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Originally Posted by 42041

I prefer live action for demo purposes. Which is the main reason Avatar is not my favorite demo disc, when so much of it is completely CGI. Ultimately there's a lot more detail in the real world than 3d animators can put in their characters and environments.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmford

I agree too...

I would say great demo discs would be the purely live action ones, even an older one would really do it like Blade Runner!!!

Yeah, me too.
What impress me most are action scenes, as well as steady shots of simple thinks. The slower camera moves, the better.

bpmford · 06-05-2010, 02:41 AM

Definitely... which is why I didn't really care for the Bourne blu-rays, that shaky cam just gives me headaches and doesn't really show off blu-ray all that well!!

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

Yeah, me too.
What impress me most are action scenes, as well as steady shots of simple thinks. The slower camera moves, the better.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmford

Definitely... which is why I didn't really care for the Bourne blu-rays, that shaky cam just gives me headaches and doesn't really show off blu-ray all that well!!

Frozen shots just let you to absorb so much more detail.

bpmford · 06-05-2010, 03:27 AM

Definitely!

I actually really loved the PQ of Sunshine... yes there was generated images of course, but there were a lot of great live action scenes where they really let you take in the visuals!!!

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

Frozen shots just let you to absorb so much more detail.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmford

Definitely!

I actually really loved the PQ of Sunshine... yes there was generated images of course, but there were a lot of great live action scenes where they really let you take in the visuals!!!

What about the AQ of sunshine, did you feel the mighteeness,power of sun.

By the way, its one of the best si-fies out there, I really like that type of movies, as they have scientific feel to them as well.e

bpmford · 06-05-2010, 03:44 AM

Well, I saw Sunshine in the theaters twice, and the AQ just blew me away!!! Between the power of the sun and the soundtrack, it was just awesome!!!

It is my top movie of all time, I just loved how it really struck every element, it felt so real for a movie that was completely Fiction!

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

What about the AQ of sunshine, did you feel the mighteeness,power of sun.

By the way, its one of the best si-fies out there, I really like that type of movies, as they have scientific feel to them as well.e

Magicmonger · 06-05-2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmford

Definitely... which is why I didn't really care for the Bourne blu-rays, that shaky cam just gives me headaches and doesn't really show off blu-ray all that well!!

I totally agree completely with bpmford's statement. The shaky cam can be so annoying it takes away from the excitement of watching and diving into the story.

Hard to choose between CGI and live action. You want that look for your enviornment of CGI but yet nothing beats live action in certain situations.

RAZGRIZ-1 · 06-05-2010, 04:25 AM

I feel that live action is best to show off Video or Audio quality and that CGI/Animation is better suited for Audio only.

My exception to this is Avatar, only because it's CG looks life like. Infact Avatar is my go to demo disc as of now.

Marcus Wright · 06-05-2010, 11:19 PM

Good to see most prefer live action movies.
Nothing comes close to reality.
There is more beauty in reality than anywhere else.

KubrickFan · 06-05-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

Good to see most prefer live action movies.
Nothing comes close to reality.
There is more beauty in reality than anywhere else.

Live-action movies don't equal realism, especially not in action flicks.

View Poll Results: Animation/CGI/Anime vs Live Action
Live Action	16	57.14%
Animation/Anime/CGI	10	35.71%
Live Action = Animation/Anime/CGI	2	7.14%
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06-05-2010, 01:30 AM	#1
Marcus Wright Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2010 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:143 PS3 collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:23	Animation/CGI vs Live Action for demo Hi everyone. Which type of content (animation/CGI or live action) in your opinion better expresses what blu ray is capable off. You know, while animation is always more clean, creasp, and colourfull, nevertheless, good PQ/AQ of live action movies always had bigger influence on me. Its my personal preferance that I prefer good PQ/AQ live action to animation. Its more jaw dropping for me. Which one do you prefer. Vote and comment. Zero will win, whatever you do. Last edited by Marcus Wright; 06-05-2010 at 01:49 AM.

06-05-2010, 01:34 AM	#2
F-Man Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:174 Trading Score:1	I think it's very much a matter of what you prefer watching. For me, the enhanced clarity of the rich colors in hand drawn animation is more jarring when seen in hi-def compared with live-action. I think that live-action being closer to reality, my brain more easily picks up and recreates the missing details on the fly when watching in SD, whereas it is not the case with drawings. Last edited by F-Man; 06-05-2010 at 01:45 AM.

06-05-2010, 01:52 AM	#4
Massacre1 Active Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Colorado Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:25 PS3 collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:1	Avatar basically is live action. What now? "Right. Now you might be asking yourself, 'Cave, just how difficult are these tests? What was in that phonebook of a contract I signed? Am I in danger?' Let me answer those questions with a question. Who wants to make sixty dollars? Cash." Cave Johnson - Portal 2

06-05-2010, 02:20 AM	#7
bpmford Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:I'm in Canada Eh!!! Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:582 DVD collection:16 PS3 collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:21 Trading Score:2	Actually an interesting topic! I think my original answer would be animated, but I think the real answer is live action... Everyone knows that animated movies will look great in blu, but they are digital and will always look as good as the technology allows! bpmford: Previews for all my custom covers are HERE. PM me with titles if you are interested in any of them. Rules for obtaining my covers: 6 month or older membership, or some one I know and trust. Blu-Series: I do not take requests any more, but you can send me a PM if you want what I've already done. PSNID: SQUATOPEE

06-05-2010, 02:18 AM	#6
42041 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2008	I prefer live action for demo purposes. Which is the main reason Avatar is not my favorite demo disc, when so much of it is completely CGI. Ultimately there's a lot more detail in the real world than 3d animators can put in their characters and environments.

06-05-2010, 02:23 AM	#8
solarrdadd Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Alexandria, VA Home Theater Gallery:253 Blu-ray collection:690 PS3 collection:27 Blu-ray reviews: 32 Hardware reviews:11 Trading Score:108	i do at least one of each when showing my system off to someone who wants to see what HT is all about. also, certain movies either live action or CG have special parts in them that are the best scenes to demo as well. 55" Sony SXRD KDS-A552000 1080P PS3 Slim & XBOX 360 Elite, Wii, iPhone5 64gb iPad4 64gb, AppleTV-hdmi, NAS-1tb, Oppo BDP-93 & 83 Blu-Ray Dedicated 20amp circuit!Emotiva XPA-5 & UPA-2 Amps, XDA-1DAC, Onkyo PR-SC5507P Pre/Pro; TX-NR525, TX-8050 Receivers Harmony 1, SB-Touch, Axiom Spkrs M80v3, VP180v3, QS8v3, QS4v3 M2v3, Front 3 Bi-Wired! Emotiva X-Ref 12 DSP Sub & Ultra Subs 12 & 10 - NY GIANTS!

06-05-2010, 04:25 AM	#18
RAZGRIZ-1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Illinois Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:211 PS3 collection:63 Blu-ray reviews: 5 PS3 reviews:2 Hardware reviews:3	I feel that live action is best to show off Video or Audio quality and that CGI/Animation is better suited for Audio only. My exception to this is Avatar, only because it's CG looks life like. Infact Avatar is my go to demo disc as of now.

06-05-2010, 11:19 PM	#19
Marcus Wright Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2010 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:143 PS3 collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:23	Good to see most prefer live action movies. Nothing comes close to reality. There is more beauty in reality than anywhere else. Zero will win, whatever you do.

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