ATI 6000 Series Cards Hit This Fall - 5000 Series To Finally Get A Price Cut. - Blu-ray Forum

Offender_Mullet · 08-15-2010, 05:36 PM

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The hits just keep coming for NVIDIA. First their Fermi line was six months late to the market, and now they have to push back the launch of the GTS 450. However, it’s a different story altogether for ATI, as not only has the 5000 series been very successful, but they are now on the verge of launching an entirely new line of graphics cards.

Up until now the news regarding the new 6000 series (Southern Island) has not specified an exact time frame for release. We can put the speculation to rest now, as AMD is rumored to announce the new graphics cards in October, and partners should be shipping them to the public in November. So, this gives us just three short months before the 6000 series will be in hand.

While details on the new line are still vague, there are reports coming out the new series will use the current 40nm fabrication process and not the 32nm originally intended. This is due to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) advancing to 28nm and skipping the 32nm process all together. So, AMD had to make the adjustment back to 40nm in order to prevent delays to the new series.

Additional news: AMD plans to cut prices of the 5000 series prior to the 6000 launch. There is not an exact date specified for the price reduction, but it should be happening within the next month or two.

Every article I've seen is vague like this one. No tech specs on the cards, other than they're still using the 40nm that's already found in the 5000 Series. Looks like these might be filler cards before the 28nm (7000 Series?) are released.

Link: http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14596-...t-in-november/

Leopold BUTTERS · 08-15-2010, 05:43 PM

hmmmm.....Should I keep my 5970 or get 2 6870s when they come out....

supersix4 · 08-15-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

hmmmm.....Should I keep my 5970 or get 2 6870s when they come out....

Or get another 5970

Offender_Mullet · 08-15-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

hmmmm.....Should I keep my 5970 or get 2 6870s when they come out....

I'm sure they'll release full specs soon, so if you do plan to sell, just be sure to dump the 5970 well before the price drop hits.

supersix4 · 08-15-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

I'm sure they'll release full specs soon, so if you do plan to sell, just be sure to dump the 5970 well before the price drop hits.

If the specs aren't mind blowing or at least better then that special edition 5970 then I'm just getting a reduced price 5970

Hopefully they do a better job with the 6-series with keeping them in-stock then they did with the top of the line 5's.

Its funny they have all this momentum yet still have fumbled in some ways.

lucv13 · 08-16-2010, 03:44 AM

I guess it will soon be time to upgrade my HD3850...

JonD7 · 08-16-2010, 04:11 AM

Guess I will be upgrading my 5850 next year then.

Offender_Mullet · 08-16-2010, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lucv13

I guess it will soon be time to upgrade my HD3850...

For your card, YES!

Raiders12 · 08-16-2010, 03:46 PM

Ive read the 6000 series isnt a total revamp of the 5000. So it will probably be a slight performance jump. you should keep your 5970, or pick up another

Leopold BUTTERS · 08-17-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders12

Ive read the 6000 series isnt a total revamp of the 5000. So it will probably be a slight performance jump. you should keep your 5970, or pick up another

Quad Fire doesn't work with eyefinity yet... Anything over 2 cards just goes badly. I wish they'd do somethign about it, I did want a 5870 but Tri-fire is the worst. Your FPS actually goes down to almost non playable. Useless drivers.

Hatter · 08-17-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lucv13

I guess it will soon be time to upgrade my HD3850...

Don't be embarrassed, I use a HD3650. It plays Mirror's Edge, Bioshock and blu-rays all fine and that's good enough for me.

Raiders12 · 08-17-2010, 02:10 AM

4850's are perfect budget cards to be honest. I bought one when it first came out for $205, and just nabbed another for Crossfire in my new rig. Runs Fallout 3 on Ultra Settings, 4X AA, 12X AF, smoothly, runs BFBC2 on High settings, 2X AA smoothly. Overall awesome cards for price

lucv13 · 08-18-2010, 05:16 AM

Well, I've been doing a little research and think I've decided on this card The card is basically overkill for my needs but you never know I might yet find a PC game I like that is not available on PS3.

Depending on the pricing after the 6xxx series release - it will likely be a Boxing Day purchase... PC specs in sig

Offender_Mullet · 08-18-2010, 05:23 AM

lucv13, are you wondering which one is the better buy?

I wouldn't touch PowerColor cards, but I'm a Gigabyte guy so I'm going to be biased.

lucv13 · 08-18-2010, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

lucv13, are you wondering which one is the better buy?

I wouldn't touch PowerColor cards, but I'm a Gigabyte guy so I'm going to be biased.

Sorry I was editing that mess when you posted - I want to go with a silent card with 2 DVI and Powercolor is the only option at the moment - the Gigabyte silent card is 1 DVI 1 HDMI and 1 VGA you can use any combination for displays except you can't use DVI and HDMI at the same time...

Offender_Mullet · 08-18-2010, 05:47 AM

Those Powercolor 5000 series are the only silent ones which have 2xDVI connections on NewEgg that I found. Looks like that's you're only way to go.

Are you 100% positive you cannot use a dvi and hdmi at the same time? They're both essentially the same thing, hdmi just has the added benefit of being able to carry sound. I've never tried that before though. I've only hooked up 2 monitors at once from one card with dvi and vga cables.

lucv13 · 08-18-2010, 05:57 AM

99% sure - you can use DVI and VGA or HDMI and VGA but not DVI and HDMI.

Powercolor only has a 2 year warranty though, would prefer lifetime warranty like XFX

I suppose I could use DVI out to TV with SPDIF like I am now(I won't be outputting hi-def audio from the HTPC as I will be getting the Sony 400 disc BD player) VGA to my 22" monitor since it will accept all 3 inputs - back to research...

Offender_Mullet · 08-18-2010, 06:00 AM

Do you absolutely need a silent card? Most non-reference ATI cards aren't nearly as loud as vanilla ones.

lucv13 · 08-18-2010, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Offender_Mullet

Do you absolutely need a silent card? Most non-reference ATI cards aren't nearly as loud as vanilla ones.

LOL nope, I actually don't really need to upgrade the current one either as it serves me well - but you know....

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Offender_Mullet · 08-18-2010, 06:10 AM

lol

Then don't blow $180 on that card. I'd suggest just be patient and wait until the price drop. I'm sure you'd be able to get a nice 5850, which are still some of the best price-to-performance ATI cards you can buy.

08-16-2010, 03:44 AM	#6
lucv13 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:London ON Canada Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:263 DVD collection:266 PS3 collection:52 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	I guess it will soon be time to upgrade my HD3850... Main system Anthem MRX 300 - 61" Samsung HL-T6189S - Sony BDP CX960 400 disc BD player - Rotel RB-890 power amp - 2 PSB Synchrony 2B fronts - 1 PSB Synchrony 2C center - 2 Paradigm ADP 350 rears -1 Energy S10.3 sub - PS3 160gb - HTPC

08-16-2010, 04:11 AM	#7
JonD7 Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Cali Blu-ray collection:106 PS3 collection:24	Guess I will be upgrading my 5850 next year then. setup: 40" Sony XBR4 PS3 320GB(originally 60GB) with 500GB external PSN: JD777 been Blu since January 12th of '07

08-18-2010, 05:16 AM	#13
lucv13 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:London ON Canada Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:263 DVD collection:266 PS3 collection:52 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	Well, I've been doing a little research and think I've decided on this card The card is basically overkill for my needs but you never know I might yet find a PC game I like that is not available on PS3. Depending on the pricing after the 6xxx series release - it will likely be a Boxing Day purchase... PC specs in sig Main system Anthem MRX 300 - 61" Samsung HL-T6189S - Sony BDP CX960 400 disc BD player - Rotel RB-890 power amp - 2 PSB Synchrony 2B fronts - 1 PSB Synchrony 2C center - 2 Paradigm ADP 350 rears -1 Energy S10.3 sub - PS3 160gb - HTPC Last edited by lucv13; 08-18-2010 at 05:29 AM.

08-18-2010, 05:57 AM	#17
lucv13 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:London ON Canada Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:263 DVD collection:266 PS3 collection:52 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	99% sure - you can use DVI and VGA or HDMI and VGA but not DVI and HDMI. Powercolor only has a 2 year warranty though, would prefer lifetime warranty like XFX I suppose I could use DVI out to TV with SPDIF like I am now(I won't be outputting hi-def audio from the HTPC as I will be getting the Sony 400 disc BD player) VGA to my 22" monitor since it will accept all 3 inputs - back to research... Main system Anthem MRX 300 - 61" Samsung HL-T6189S - Sony BDP CX960 400 disc BD player - Rotel RB-890 power amp - 2 PSB Synchrony 2B fronts - 1 PSB Synchrony 2C center - 2 Paradigm ADP 350 rears -1 Energy S10.3 sub - PS3 160gb - HTPC Last edited by lucv13; 08-18-2010 at 06:02 AM.

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08-15-2010, 05:43 PM	#2
Leopold BUTTERS Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:AB,Canada Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	hmmmm.....Should I keep my 5970 or get 2 6870s when they come out....

08-16-2010, 03:46 PM	#9
Raiders12 Power Member Member since:Nov 2008 Home Theater Gallery:31 Blu-ray collection:97 PS3 collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:8	Ive read the 6000 series isnt a total revamp of the 5000. So it will probably be a slight performance jump. you should keep your 5970, or pick up another

08-17-2010, 02:10 AM	#12
Raiders12 Power Member Member since:Nov 2008 Home Theater Gallery:31 Blu-ray collection:97 PS3 collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:8	4850's are perfect budget cards to be honest. I bought one when it first came out for $205, and just nabbed another for Crossfire in my new rig. Runs Fallout 3 on Ultra Settings, 4X AA, 12X AF, smoothly, runs BFBC2 on High settings, 2X AA smoothly. Overall awesome cards for price

08-18-2010, 05:23 AM	#14
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	lucv13, are you wondering which one is the better buy? I wouldn't touch PowerColor cards, but I'm a Gigabyte guy so I'm going to be biased.

08-18-2010, 05:47 AM	#16
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	Those Powercolor 5000 series are the only silent ones which have 2xDVI connections on NewEgg that I found. Looks like that's you're only way to go. Are you 100% positive you cannot use a dvi and hdmi at the same time? They're both essentially the same thing, hdmi just has the added benefit of being able to carry sound. I've never tried that before though. I've only hooked up 2 monitors at once from one card with dvi and vga cables.

08-18-2010, 06:00 AM	#18
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	Do you absolutely need a silent card? Most non-reference ATI cards aren't nearly as loud as vanilla ones.

08-18-2010, 06:10 AM	#20
Offender_Mullet Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:10	lol Then don't blow $180 on that card. I'd suggest just be patient and wait until the price drop. I'm sure you'd be able to get a nice 5850, which are still some of the best price-to-performance ATI cards you can buy.