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Old 08-29-2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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Throwing fuel on the fire here, who really cares about interactivity? I put in a movie, I watch the movie, and sometimes I watch the extras. The only feature I have seen in action that is useful is seamless branching. I have seen concepts for upcoming interactive features, and all I see is something I may fool with for five minutes before or after I watch the movie. I would like to know what everyone else really thinks about this interactive stuff.

I love the PCM sound of blu ray. I could care less about some of the other stuff.
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Agreed. I like that I can bring up the menus while the movie is still playing, but don't need any extensive special features. Good PQ and uncompressed PCM is what really matters.
the day movie theatres decides to go with interactive presentation, is the day i will be okay with it. Right now, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT....i enjoy my movies with good PQ and Uncompressed PCM. just like you.
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Despite my past track record with movies (not really watching extras), I am actually a big proponent of extra, interactive features. I feel that the next generation disc has to offer many more features that SD DVD for most "normal" consumers to see benefits. I think the HD video quality is going to be loved by many consumers but I don't see audio being that big of a deal. I know many fans of both the HD DVD and Blu-ray sides always talk about how great the audio is but we are talking about the average consumer who probably doesn't have the setup to enjoy such sound. I am in favor of anything they do to make the next format interactive and enjoyable.
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Agreed. I like that I can bring up the menus while the movie is still playing, but don't need any extensive special features. Good PQ and uncompressed PCM is what really matters.
Agree 100%. I love the menu overlay on BD movies. As for extras, I don't think I can name more than 10 movies that I've ever watched the extras on in my entire dvd collection.
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Throwing fuel on the fire here, who really cares about interactivity? I put in a movie, I watch the movie, and sometimes I watch the extras. The only feature I have seen in action that is useful is seamless branching. I have seen concepts for upcoming interactive features, and all I see is something I may fool with for five minutes before or after I watch the movie. I would like to know what everyone else really thinks about this interactive stuff.

I love the PCM sound of blu ray. I could care less about some of the other stuff.
Me too.I'll watch some of it but i wouldn't miss anything.On my old sony dvd player and remote the a botton to press for mutiple angles of a film, can't remember the last time i saw a dvd with mutilple angle on it.

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Throwing fuel on the fire here, who really cares about interactivity?
Okay--It's particuarly appropriate, given the "Why do we need hi-def?" arguments today...
But any true '97-'99 birth-of-DVD survivor can quote the "Third Rock From the Sun" scene by heart:

Back when there were only twelve disks on DVD, and the technology was still seen as some insanely and pointlessly anal-retentive toy for laserdisk home-theater geeks who deserved to pay $2000 for it...
We had a "satirical" episode where the Kristen Johnston and French Stewart alien characters wander into a Circuit City and catch the home-theater bug for the first time, in all its embarrassing glory--And in one scene, try to turn a skeptical friend onto the "wonders" of 1997-era DVD:
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"Look at the picture!...And that Dolby stereo sound!"
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"The director of 'Leprechaun 2'!!"
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(Now, there're probably going to be some mainstream-whiners on this thread who think I'm trying to play the "Yeah, why do we need PiP on Batman Begins?" card--
OTOH, I might be trying to remind the younger folk, that once upon a time, not too long ago, and not too far far away, normal people went around thinking "Extras? On a DVD?--Oh, come on!...I mean, people just want to see the movie, don't they? Why not just rent the tape, it's cheaper!")
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I agree entirely. It watches the movie - it puts the movie back in the case.
PIP for a movie seems STUPID
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It watches the movie - it puts the movie back in the case.
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I agree entirely. It watches the movie - it puts the movie back in the case.
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the day movie theatres decides to go with interactive presentation, is the day i will be okay with it. Right now, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT....i enjoy my movies with good PQ and Uncompressed PCM. just like you.
I like this. I agree. I've never gone into a movie theatre to watch a movie and wondered where all the mini-games or director commentaries were.

On the other hand I can understand why some people expect them. They are paying for them, but in the end I ask those people; are you buying the movie for the movie or to see how they made it and play little mini games? I do like the new menu's though.
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If I want to interact with something I will play a game. A movie is all about sitting back and enjoying the show.
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Well, I got Blu-ray for the killer PQ.
Extras? Interactivity?
Uhm... does any of this make the picture better? Didn't think so... Pass!
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tell me how many of you bought the same title more than 3 times because of a new extra features version that was just released. I know i didn't. when x-men came out on dvd, i bought it. right before the release of x2, the studio decided to release x-men 1.5. and all it had was extra features compared to the original release and behind the scenes featurette for x2. it wasn't that interesting. same way i look at the interactivity feature.
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the day movie theatres decides to go with interactive presentation, is the day i will be okay with it. Right now, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT....
Actually, there's a wealth of illuminating history on the short-lived rise and fall of "InterFilm" (anyone remember "Mr. Payback"?) on the bonus menu, if you can track down the hard-to-find DVD for what was supposed to be the first theater-interactive InterFilm(TM), "I'm Your Man".
(They had hoped to rescue the movies as interactive DVD's, but this was back in the late-90's, and the market and companies were too small.)

And going by Roger Ebert's review of "Mr. Payback", what ultimately sank InterFilm after two films was, ironically, that it was designed as a group-theater effort, and it frustratingly just wasn't interactive enough.
(Although starting out with an unwatchably dopey Bob Gale movie didn't help the emerging technology any either.)

...Um, does that bit of real-life history kill the joke off enough, or shall I take another go at it?

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tell me how many of you bought the same title more than 3 times because of a new extra features version that was just released. I know i didn't. when x-men came out on dvd, i bought it. right before the release of x2, the studio decided to release x-men 1.5. and all it had was extra features compared to the original release and behind the scenes featurette for x2. it wasn't that interesting. same way i look at the interactivity feature.
I'd double & tripple dip in a heartbeat over additional content (like the LOTR extended cuts) or with Remastering (Like TFE BD) which btw, i never had the crap version I think I always knew they'd fix it.

But I would never double dip for a game, or deleted scenes(out-takes), or especially not to hear some whiney director explain something to me. I just wanna watch the friggin flick. Very rarely do I wonder "how'd they do that" or, "why was this this way" If I wanna know that info...i usually look it up online anyways.
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I'd double & tripple dip in a heartbeat over additional content (like the LOTR extended cuts) or with Remastering (Like TFE BD) which btw, i never had the crap version I think I always knew they'd fix it.

But I would never double dip for a game, or deleted scenes(out-takes), or especially not to hear some whiney director explain something to me. I just wanna watch the friggin flick. Very rarely do I wonder "how'd they do that" or, "why was this this way" If I wanna know that info...i usually look it up online anyways.
i should have been clear about it, but you did it for me. thanks i couldn't have explained it better...
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tell me how many of you bought the same title more than 3 times because of a new extra features version that was just released. I know i didn't. when x-men came out on dvd, i bought it. right before the release of x2, the studio decided to release x-men 1.5. and all it had was extra features compared to the original release and behind the scenes featurette for x2.
Well, if you're wondering why it was called "1.5", the original idea was that Bryan Singer really was going to film some new deleted script scenes for an "Extended Edition", Peter Jackson-style, while busy on the set for X2--
Unfortunately (as some of us didn't find out until we bought it), schedules and budget didn't allow it, and the "1.5" set ultimately kept the title but went out with the commentary and some making-of footage that the underwhelming first set was originally missing when it first rushed out.
But Fox had the release date, they'd advertised the pre-order, they were married to it, go figure.

What you're probably thinking of is "Spiderman 2.5" and all the other dopey promotional re-releases that mindlessly borrowed the cool decimal-point title idea without realizing why the first one used it in the first place...

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