Best Blu-ray Deals

Best Blu-ray Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | Price drops  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Japan
Big (Blu-ray)
$7.99
Uncle Buck (Blu-ray)
$6.96
Hugo (Blu-ray)
$4.99
Gatchaman: Complete Collection + OVAs (Blu-ray)
$59.99
Frozen Planet (Blu-ray)
$14.99
The Simpsons: The Sixteenth Season (Blu-ray)
$19.99
Grave of the Fireflies (Blu-ray)
$12.99
The Spectacular Spider-Man: The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
$24.99
Grease (Blu-ray)
$4.99
Seven (Blu-ray)
$4.99
Godzilla (Blu-ray)
$19.99
Blow (Blu-ray)
$6.98
The Pawnbroker (Blu-ray)
$19.16
High School of the Dead OVA: Drifters of the Dead (Blu-ray)
$4.99
Somewhere in Time (Blu-ray)
$10.49
Mallrats (Blu-ray)
$9.96
The Quiet Man (Blu-ray)
$14.98
Intolerable Cruelty (Blu-ray)
$10.49
The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning / The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea (Blu-ray)
$19.96
Old 11-20-2010, 04:35 PM   #1
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default Best way to enjoy 96/24 flac files

Hi folks,

I'm sure I have read it in one of the threads here but after spending a lot of time looking I cannot find it.

I'm looking for the best way to enjoy 96/24 or 192/24 music on my system. I have bought some 96/24 downloads and want advice on the best way to play these. For most of my older CD's I have them all encoded in FLAC on my PC and use PS3 Media Server to stream them on my PS3. I have a PS3 and Oppo BDP-83 as well. I could author/burn DVD's, DVD-A or Blu-rays - whatever will work best.

I think I read a post here before where someone mentioned creating DVD-A discs using these files but I can't find it now. I guess I could decode the flac to WAV files but do WAV files support 96/24 or 192/24? I just want to be able to enjoy this music on my system without loss of quality.
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub

Last edited by Jimbo976; 11-20-2010 at 04:40 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 04:57 PM   #2
trentv85050 trentv85050 is offline
Member
 
Sep 2007
Default

Info: http://flac.sourceforge.net/
8 Stem Mixing / 7.3 Playback / Sony SS-F7000 (8) / Yamaha YST-SW315 (3) / Pioneer Elite SC-35 (3) / Boxx / Auzentech / Windows 7 / 64-bit / Steinberg / Sony Creative Software / Avid / Blackmagic Design / MainConcept / Adobe / Corel / Wacom / Autodesk / PowerColor Eyefinity 5 HD5770 (3) / Dell UltraSharp U2711 27 (12) / LG INFINIA 55LX9500 (3) / Pioneer CDJ-2000 (2) / Pioneer DJM-800 (1) / Laptop (5) / Misc

http://soundcloud.com/trent-v
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 05:07 PM   #3
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

Yes I know what FLAC is and have been using it for years at lower resolutions but is there something I have not found yet on that site that describes how to play/burn 96/24 or 192/24 files without a loss in quality?
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 05:40 PM   #4
blu2 blu2 is offline
Special Member
 
Oct 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo976 View Post
Yes I know what FLAC is and have been using it for years at lower resolutions but is there something I have not found yet on that site that describes how to play/burn 96/24 or 192/24 files without a loss in quality?
I've successfully used this for 96/24 files, which creates an iso image that you can burn to a dvd-v with your favorite burning program.

http://audioplex.sourceforge.net/

Last edited by blu2; 11-20-2010 at 05:45 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 05:52 PM   #5
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blu2 View Post
I've successfully used this for 96/24 files, which creates an iso image that you can burn to a dvd-v with your favorite burning program.

http://audioplex.sourceforge.net/
Ok I'll give it a shot - thanks.

I also found a program called HD Audio Solo from circlina.com in the last few minutes. I'm going to try that too. It seems it will author DVD-A, DVD-V or Blu-ray. Anyone tried that before?
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 08:10 PM   #6
dobyblue dobyblue is offline
Super Moderator
 
dobyblue's Avatar
 
Jul 2006
Gilead
31
476
7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo976 View Post
Ok I'll give it a shot - thanks.

I also found a program called HD Audio Solo from circlina.com in the last few minutes. I'm going to try that too. It seems it will author DVD-A, DVD-V or Blu-ray. Anyone tried that before?
That's what I use, let's you burn 24/96 5.1 files by reducing the bit depth and sampling rate of the surrounds and LFE to 16/48 keeping full resolution at centre and fronts, otherwise you go over the limits of DVD spec which is just over 9 Mbps. 24/96 5.1 is 13+ Mbps.

You can also convert to individual wave files (6 mono files) for 5.1 and then convert to MLP and keep it at 24/96 using other programs, but that's a bit more complicated.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 09:42 PM   #7
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

Yeah I burned using the demo of HD Audio Solo. It seems to have a nice interface and you have lots of options. It also claims to support Blu-ray but I couldn't get it to make a Blu-ray ISO. II think I'll buy it.

I tried the DVD-A program on sourceforge but didn't have too much luck.

The DVD-A I burned with HD Audio Solo plays fine in my BDP-83 at 96/24 so I'm happy.
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2010, 11:56 PM   #8
Sigma6 Sigma6 is offline
Member
 
Sep 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blu2 View Post
I've successfully used this for 96/24 files, which creates an iso image that you can burn to a dvd-v with your favorite burning program.

http://audioplex.sourceforge.net/
This is what I use as well. It's great as it makes a DVD-Video as I don't have a DVD-Audio player. Sweet! Highly recommended.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010, 12:28 AM   #9
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

I'm a bit confused on DVD-A vs DVD-V. Can someone who understands this clarify?

If I take a 96/24 stereo flac file and build a DVD-Audio disc from it will the quality be exactly the same as building a DVD-Video disc using something like the Audioplex software mentioned below?

I think I understand that DVD-Audio discs can go up to 192/24 in stereo and 96/24 in 5.1 (while DVD-Video discs max out at 96/24 stereo) but it sounds like there is no difference at all with 96/24 stereo files. Is that true?

I found this chart somewhere earlier today that seems to sum up all the formats...

Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010, 05:34 AM   #10
blu2 blu2 is offline
Special Member
 
Oct 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo976 View Post
I think I understand that DVD-Audio discs can go up to 192/24 in stereo and 96/24 in 5.1 (while DVD-Video discs max out at 96/24 stereo) but it sounds like there is no difference at all with 96/24 stereo files. Is that true?
Yep, DVD-V can do 96/24 lossless stereo just fine

When I first learned this I was amazed there was a largely untapped/unknown high def music delivery format lurking all these years, playable by pretty well everyone. The good news is that's it's trivial/cheap to create a physical disc from high def lossless downloads if desired.

Last edited by blu2; 11-21-2010 at 05:42 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 08:50 AM   #11
erikduop erikduop is offline
New Member
 
Dec 2010
Default

I got around the situation by converting the file from flac to wav at 96/24 and it was OK and sounded more open than playing the SACD. I have have mozart symphony no 40 on SACD and compared between the SACD recording and the 96/24 and the sound was so much open. Both are recordings are from the same exact source recording.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 11:15 AM   #12
dobyblue dobyblue is offline
Super Moderator
 
dobyblue's Avatar
 
Jul 2006
Gilead
31
476
7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by erikduop View Post
I got around the situation by converting the file from flac to wav at 96/24 and it was OK and sounded more open than playing the SACD. I have have mozart symphony no 40 on SACD and compared between the SACD recording and the 96/24 and the sound was so much open. Both are recordings are from the same exact source recording.
Is there a PCM conversion in your SACD chain?
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 01:02 PM   #13
solarrdadd solarrdadd is offline
Blu-ray Knight
 
solarrdadd's Avatar
 
Jul 2008
Alexandria, VA
254
798
34
204
Default

i have all my high res FLAC files (as well as WMALL) on my network via a 1TB NAS and simply stream it to my 5507 pre-amp which plays it at 96/24 or 88.2/24 and it works and sounds great. i also can stream it to any pc in my house. I even have a couple of 192/24 and they stream perfectly too. Let me tell you that the uncompressed "Band on The Run" by MaCartney & Wings at 96/24 file size 1.54gb and streaming at 2880kbps with no dynamic range compression sounds incredible at my place. so for me, that's the simplest way to enjoy my FLAC files. i don't convert, burn or do anything other than download them from someplace like HDTracks directly onto the NAS and then stream them to my system.

hope that helps
55" Sony SXRD KDS-A552000 1080P
PS3 Slim & XBOX 360 Elite, Wii, iPhone5 64gb
iPad4 64gb, AppleTV-hdmi, NAS-1tb, Oppo BDP-105D, 105, 93 & 83 players
Onkyo PR-SC5507P Pre/Pro; TX-NR525 Harmony 1, SB-Touch, Axiom Spkrs M80v3, VP180v3, QS8v3, QS4v3 M2v3, Front 3 Bi-Wired! Emotiva XPA-5, UPA-200, UPA-2 & mini-x Amps, XDA-1DAC, X-Ref 12 DSP Sub & Ultra Subs 12 Polk Audio SDA-2 speakers
NY GIANTS!
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 04:00 PM   #14
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

I don't know of any way I can stream 96 or 192 files in my case. I am using PS3 Media Server to stream FLAC to my PS3 but it seems to downconvert anything above 48 to 48. Also the BDP-83 cannot handle FLAC directly so I can't send anything to it. I don't think I could send anything directly to my receiver either.

I've been burning DVD-Audio discs for now which works good but of course it's less convenient than if I could stream.
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2010, 04:16 PM   #15
ToEhrIsHuman ToEhrIsHuman is offline
Active Member
 
ToEhrIsHuman's Avatar
 
Jun 2007
SF Bay Area, CA
344
Send a message via AIM to ToEhrIsHuman Send a message via Yahoo to ToEhrIsHuman
Default

I really wish Sony would get on the ball and add FLAC support to the PS3. I have lots of 24/96 surround FLACs I'd love to listen to on my home theater.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:26 PM   #16
dobyblue dobyblue is offline
Super Moderator
 
dobyblue's Avatar
 
Jul 2006
Gilead
31
476
7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo976 View Post
I don't know of any way I can stream 96 or 192 files in my case. I am using PS3 Media Server to stream FLAC to my PS3 but it seems to downconvert anything above 48 to 48. Also the BDP-83 cannot handle FLAC directly so I can't send anything to it. I don't think I could send anything directly to my receiver either.

I've been burning DVD-Audio discs for now which works good but of course it's less convenient than if I could stream.
Is your PC close enough to run an HDMI cable into your receiver? That's what I do, but I need to get a new card because my onboard HDMI controller is Ghandi.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:30 PM   #17
Jimbo976 Jimbo976 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Aug 2007
Canada
3
208
1
1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dobyblue View Post
Is your PC close enough to run an HDMI cable into your receiver? That's what I do, but I need to get a new card because my onboard HDMI controller is Ghandi.
I do have an HDMI cable from my PC to my recevier that I was using for playing video before but my setup does not support HD audio over the HDMI. I have run a 2nd coax cable for audio. My sound card is just the chip built into my Asus P5K board.
Panasonic 58" TCP58V10 Plasma, Sharp 46" Aquos 46D64U LCD, Sony STR-DG910, Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player, Sonly BDP-S360 Blu-ray player, Sony BDP-BX2 Blu-ray player, Slim 120GB PS3, Klipsch RF-62 fronts, RC-62 center, RS-52 surrounds and RW-10D sub
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2010, 06:57 PM   #18
mardukes mardukes is offline
New Member
 
Dec 2010
Default assume a can opener

Quote:
Originally Posted by solarrdadd View Post
i have all my high res FLAC files (as well as WMALL) on my network via a 1TB NAS and simply stream it to my 5507 pre-amp which plays it at 96/24 or 88.2/24 and it works and sounds great. i also can stream it to any pc in my house. I even have a couple of 192/24 and they stream perfectly too. Let me tell you that the uncompressed "Band on The Run" by MaCartney & Wings at 96/24 file size 1.54gb and streaming at 2880kbps with no dynamic range compression sounds incredible at my place. so for me, that's the simplest way to enjoy my FLAC files. i don't convert, burn or do anything other than download them from someplace like HDTracks directly onto the NAS and then stream them to my system.

hope that helps
While it's hard to imagine PM & W sounding incredible at anyone's place, HOW do you stream it? And what do you mean "to" any pc in your house. There's no pc that can play in high definition. They can file serve but lossless is wasted on pc codecs. You have to convert them to WAV and settle for less than 96/24.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2010, 10:14 PM   #19
GaS GaS is offline
Senior Member
 
Aug 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo976 View Post
Hi folks,

I'm sure I have read it in one of the threads here but after spending a lot of time looking I cannot find it.

I'm looking for the best way to enjoy 96/24 or 192/24 music on my system. I have bought some 96/24 downloads and want advice on the best way to play these. For most of my older CD's I have them all encoded in FLAC on my PC and use PS3 Media Server to stream them on my PS3. I have a PS3 and Oppo BDP-83 as well. I could author/burn DVD's, DVD-A or Blu-rays - whatever will work best.

I think I read a post here before where someone mentioned creating DVD-A discs using these files but I can't find it now. I guess I could decode the flac to WAV files but do WAV files support 96/24 or 192/24? I just want to be able to enjoy this music on my system without loss of quality.
Use this:

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speake...s/devices/5745
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2010, 04:45 AM   #20
desiderialouis desiderialouis is offline
Banned
 
Dec 2010
Default

It is one of the dynamic way of compression it is providing so many things which is really very cool. Here some times PS3 but it seems to downconvert anything above 48 to 48. Also the BDP-83 cannot handle FLAC directly so I can't send anything to it. It is great to know about it.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Audio > Music / Audiophiles > Blu-ray Music and High Quality Music


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:00 AM.