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Old 06-18-2011, 09:27 AM   #4021
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The Extended Edition has always been altered from the original. By definition, it's altered from the original.
I know I'm complaining about a creative decision.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:33 AM   #4022
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more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on
Its never going to get dropped ok? It will be complained about until the issue is fixed. Intentional or not: its going to get fixed if there are enough complaints. This isn't the same situation as star wars: this is an easy fix. If people say and do nothing, nothing will be done about it. The consumers will complain until their demands are met. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here.

BTW, that is totally ridiculous. Both pics have the same exact amount of detail.

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Old 06-18-2011, 09:36 AM   #4023
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agree.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ss=0#vergleich

this is my favourite shot from the fotr, and now it looks...
Oh my..

Please let there be some sort of EE FOTR disc exchange in our future.
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:36 AM   #4024
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more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on
I think people should complain MORE... and louder, not just here, but on the other boards and on Amazon. If there's enough publicity about this, and enough potential sales loss, maybe... just maybe the powers-that-screwed-up will recall the thing and fix the problem.

If you don't want to hear it... go read another thread.

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Old 06-18-2011, 09:46 AM   #4025
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Its never going to get dropped ok? It will be complained about until the issue is fixed. Intentional or not: its going to get fixed if there are enough complaints. This isn't the same situation as star wars: this is an easy fix. If people say and do nothing, nothing will be done about it. The consumers will complain until their demands are met. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here.

BTW, that is totally ridiculous. Both pics have the same exact amount of detail.

your the only one complaining on this fourm
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Old 06-18-2011, 09:49 AM   #4026
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your the only one complaining on this fourm
First of all: I am definitely not the only one. Second of all: I hate Angelina Jolie.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:51 AM   #4027
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Just found a unboxing on youtube


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Old 06-18-2011, 10:56 AM   #4028
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Well, I've finally decided that I'm definitely not going to buy this. There is no way that Peter Jackson or Andrew Lesnie intended only the extended edition blu-ray of 'The Fellowship Of The Ring' to be devoid of pure white, and for the whole film to have a cyan tint over the entire image from beginning to end.
This is of course pure speculation, yet I can't help but wonder whether they had to re-do the entire color grading for FOTR (as opposed to a specific decision to revisit the original colors), and decided it was a good opportunity to change things a bit. Maybe the original, properly graded master had some issues* which required that the new master be sourced from a scan predating the final/theatrical color grading.

That doesn't explain the new colors, but it could certainly explain why Fellowship is the only of the three which was entirely re-graded.

Let's speculate even further: add budget constraints, and more importantly time constraints, and you get a new color grading that can't be as meticulous as the original**. Throw a bit of bad taste in the mix, don't forget about Murphy's Law, and suddenly the new Fellowship Blu-ray doesn't seem so improbable

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IIRC, the comparisons with an HD TV recording showed that some of the DNR and edge enhancement issues were specific to the theatrical edition's Blu-ray, but that doesn't mean the master wasn't quite poor to begin with.

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I'm sure neither Jackson nor Lesnie can spend as much time on color grading a new Fellowship master as they did back then. Doing what they originally did (grade different parts of the same image individually) in a timely fashion is certainly no small task and would likely require that many of the decisions (and opposed to just most of the work) be delegated.

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It may not be excessively bad, but I honestly can't see how that could've been done deliberately.
I, on the other hand, have to trouble believing it can be intentional. That doesn't mean it is, but it really wouldn't surprise me if it were.

After all, historical accuracy notwithstanding, this presentation is good enough for many/most people. Maybe Jackson and Lesnie liked the new ambiance overall and decided that a a few scenes here and there just weren't worth the effort.

What a speculative post I just wrote!

But then, at this point, all we can do is notice the new colors and tint; the rest is just speculation anyway…
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:57 AM   #4029
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your the only one complaining on this fourm
He's not.

The Matrix has the Fellowship.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:59 AM   #4030
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Just found a unboxing on youtube

Cool Video
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:00 AM   #4031
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What's the problem now? People still think there will be an replacement, although the green tint is the wish of Peter Jackson?! There is NO issue, because the color is supposed to look that way. There is no need to change it once again.

It's now the best release of the EEs, that will ever be buyable. I bet the "Ultimate" Edition will have far more color "improvements" than this release.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:08 AM   #4032
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I wish this thread had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:15 AM   #4033
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Just found a unboxing on youtube

Interesting vid. Doesn't look as orange as the pictures previously posted in this thread.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:18 AM   #4034
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Is the UK boxset the same as the US boxset by the way (and/or is it different in any other way?)
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Is the UK boxset the same as the US boxset by the way (and/or is it different in any other way?)
I couldn't tell you if there is a difference between the Two ~ Sorry
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:32 AM   #4036
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http://www.nerdsociety.com/fun-lotr-...ition-release/

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All attendees will be winners, as they marvel at the specially created atmosphere, with autographs from celebrities, and themed give-aways, topped off with the choreographed countdown to midnight and the satisfaction of being the first people in the world to get their new Blu-ray copy of The Lord of the Rings™ The Motion Picture Trilogy: Extended Edition.


I do wonder whether this press release warrants short piece of news on the front page though.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:42 AM   #4037
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I wish this thread had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.
This is funny. ^^

Seriously - as I said, I was hoping for simply a better blu-ray quality transfer that was based off the DVD set that everyone has. I always felt that disc set looked very good for DVD. Blu-ray would have made it truly awesome.

I dont see what the color changes are for or what the benefit is but this is what we got and we can all either buy it or not buy it. EOM.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:26 PM   #4038
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Hi!

I'm new here (forums), and I just wanted to confirm an information about the subtitles... on the main page, it shows Portuguese, and also shows "Auto-set by parent"... what does that mean? Anyway
I haven't seen anybody else offer up a plausible explanation, so I'll take a stab at it. Perhaps that means that if you have the audio set to Portuguese, it will automatically provide Portuguese subtitles for the Elvish language anytime there would normally have been English subtitles. It's been a while since I've watched the films but I seem to remember some scenes where the Elvish was subtitled.

Now I can't imagine why in the world they chose to include Portuguese as the only other audio track, but I'm glad they did since my wife's side of the family is from Brazil and I would have been searching for an international version with a Portuguese option. Maybe this will be the version they sell in Brazil and the US, and they'll make a separate Spanish-language version.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:33 PM   #4039
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Skimming through this thread again reminded me of something but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, then I remembered



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Old 06-18-2011, 12:57 PM   #4040
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I've debated cancelling my pre-order, but ultimately decided not to. I'm not a big fan of the colour changes - intentional or not - and some of the (now) underexposed shots are even more worrying. I'm of the opinion this was a technical f&*$-up - why change the colours of only the first film? If it was PJ's intention then he's in for a huge backlash when this finally hits store shelves and the greater public (who don't read forums) see what he has done. If they do a disc replacement program then great. If I have to wait a couple of years for the next edition to come out then so be it. But I'll still buy this one in the mean time and put up with the colour changes. Yeah I know that makes me a sucker and WB & EIV (in the UK) are just hoping that most people see it the way I do. At the end of the day I just want the EE's in HD
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