Rush Moving Pictures Blu-ray Audio - April 5th

[blu2]

Originally Posted by notman

Turn off your TV.

Hell, I do that with live videos if I am just playing music while doing dishes, cleaning, etc. Music makes (almost) everything better.

As long as they make the discs easily navigateable without any display that's fine.

[Stereo24192]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I'm sorry but I don't think Blu-Ray Audio will ever be a success.

Most high ends systems have options to turn off video processing so as not to interfere with the audio stream - giving you the purest possible sound. Listening to music on Blu-ray just seems counter productive in that aspect.

In addition I want my music in Stereo. These releases tend to focus on the surround mixing and Stereo is an afterthought. And SACD is higher quality than DD Stereo.

You can press the Pure Audio button on your BD player too.

I'm very satisfied with the Stereo tracks on the BD concerts and the few
BD-A I have. DD Stereo? You mean lossy DD? I don't think I've seen this on any music BD's.

Originally Posted by blu2

As long as they make the discs easily navigateable without any display that's fine.

Yes, please! The stereo track should play directly when you push Play.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by FreyTheater

Cool! Gotta get me that one for sure! But, I wish they put some of their even older albums on BD-A... Farewell to Kings is my all-time favorite Rush album (Xanadu on 5.1 BD-A would be jaw-droppingly awesome!), 2112 and Fly by Night albums too...


So, not offered for Pre-order at all on Blu-ray.com??

Kudos to the guys for venturing into the hi-def world. Thematically, many of their albums were directly on the pulse of the times or even ahead of the curve... 2112, Signals especially...

They truly explore their craft - Yes, Neil is a drummer, but is to a larger extent - a student of drumming. I can imagine them as REALLY being interested in getting their music to the fans in the best way possible, and the Hi-def platform of Blu-ray is going to be great!!!

Contribute to the Hi-sound discussion in the Blu-Audio Thread!:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mus...on-thread.html

Cheers,

Doc

PS... If Amazon or the Band doesn't have it listed yet, ya can't preorder it Not BR.C's fault...

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I'm sorry but I don't think Blu-Ray Audio will ever be a success.

It won't take much for it to be a bigger success than SACD in unit sales. In addition, the reason they're releasing it on Blu-ray and not SACD is because they want it released on a format that is supported by all studios and one that has players that will play the discs available at every electoronics store across the country. I mean, the reasons why they chose Blu-ray over SACD are so blatantly apparent that it seems bizarre anyone other than the completely unreasonable "Hiro" from the Steve Hoffman forums would ever question it.

Most high ends systems have options to turn off video processing so as not to interfere with the audio stream - giving you the purest possible sound. Listening to music on Blu-ray just seems counter productive in that aspect.

Why is listening to music on a format capable of 24-bit/192kHz 5.1 and 24-bit/96kHz 7.1 counter productive? That doesn't make any sense.

In addition I want my music in Stereo. These releases tend to focus on the surround mixing and Stereo is an afterthought. And SACD is higher quality than DD Stereo.

These release absolutely DO NOT focus on the surround mixing. SACD is higher quality than DD stereo, but what Blu-ray Audio release limits the stereo option to DD Stereo? I'm not aware of ANY release on BD like that.

[Simon_LDT]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I'm sorry but I don't think Blu-Ray Audio will ever be a success.

Most high ends systems have options to turn off video processing so as not to interfere with the audio stream - giving you the purest possible sound. Listening to music on Blu-ray just seems counter productive in that aspect.

In addition I want my music in Stereo. These releases tend to focus on the surround mixing and Stereo is an afterthought. And SACD is higher quality than DD Stereo.

Your argument doesn't really make much sense here.

Blu ray is the new DVD (and will take over it eventually, just like DVD did with VHS.). Soon the majority of people will have a BD player in their homes. These people will be able to play all BD discs, including those just for audio as it's the exact same format. Not like when DVD-A and SACD came out and you NEEDED a different player (or a universal player) to play them all.

That is why surround and hi-res stereo are best made available on Blu-ray. Everyone can enjoy them, means more of the 'average joe consumer' will check them out because they don't need to fork out for a new/different player.

As for DD stereo, surely thats a joke? Every music blu I own has full 24bit stereo and surround, in lossless PCM and/or DTS-HD MA. That is far superior to SACD in terms of audio resolution.

Blu-ray surround may still only cater for audiophiles in the end but at least it gives all people a chance to try it out, without having to spend craploads of money on dedicated players.

[Skwege]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I don't know why they've never went the SACD route....they've always been on the leading edge. They had a number of laserdiscs before a lot of people even knew what laserdisc was for example.

When DVD Audio and SACD were first introduced Alex Lifeson was asked about it. At the time they said they weren't interested in remixing the albums in 5.1 because they might perhaps be too tempted to go back and change things. He sort of approached it from a puritanical point of view in which "The albums were recorded for stereo, and that was how they were meant to be heard."
Clearly he has backed down from that stance.

[maniacon]

It would be badass if they used the graphics from the Time Machine tour video screens.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I'd rather they re-release their albums on SACD

I'll wait for the VHS-Audio...

Sorry, just a joking poke at SACD. I love the one's I have, but am still hopeful for a Blu future...

Doc

[Mr. Bill]

Per rushisaband.com - Amazon UK and Canada have as pre-order already. Two options - CD/DVD and CD/BR. It is assumed the CD copy will be the 2 channel mixes and the DVD or BR will be the 5.1 also with the videos with a 5.1 lossless mix. Sounds like they can please both the 2 channel and 5.1 channel camps. Cannot wait to check out. Though AFTK, P Waves and Hemispheres would be amazing in lossless 5.1!!!!!!!!

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bill

Per rushisaband.com - Amazon UK and Canada have as pre-order already. Two options - CD/DVD and CD/BR. It is assumed the CD copy will be the 2 channel mixes and the DVD or BR will be the 5.1 also with the videos with a 5.1 lossless mix. Sounds like they can please both the 2 channel and 5.1 channel camps. Cannot wait to check out. Though AFTK, P Waves and Hemispheres would be amazing in lossless 5.1!!!!!!!!

As I said earlier, I like my music in stereo...still, I can totally hear Xanadu enveloping me in atmospheric sound...

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

As I said earlier, I like my music in stereo...still, I can totally hear Xanadu enveloping me in atmospheric sound...

Between the Wheels anyone??? Subdivisions? Afterimage?

I'm drooling...

Doc

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by Skwege

When DVD Audio and SACD were first introduced Alex Lifeson was asked about it. At the time they said they weren't interested in remixing the albums in 5.1 because they might perhaps be too tempted to go back and change things. He sort of approached it from a puritanical point of view in which "The albums were recorded for stereo, and that was how they were meant to be heard."
Clearly he has backed down from that stance.

SACD does not mean that they have to be 5.1.

Wish they would work with Terry Brown on any remix/remastering for BD audio. At least for Signals and prior.



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Rush also released a PCM 2.0 mix of Snakes and Arrows which came with a 5.1 lossy mix as well.

[Simon_LDT]

Originally Posted by frank_t

SACD does not mean that they have to be 5.1.

Wish they would work with Terry Brown on any remix/remastering for BD audio. At least for Signals and prior.



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Rush also released a PCM 2.0 mix of Snakes and Arrows which came with a 5.1 lossy mix as well.

Yep, 24bit lossless stereo and it absolutely kills the standard CD mastering. Sadly, the 5.1 was rubbish on it.

[FREYMAX 3D]

I thought the lossless DTS-MA track on the Snakes and Arrows Concert Blu-ray sounded tremendous - just as impressive as the Pink Floyd DSotM SACD, which is pretty much reference quality for 5.1 SACD. Those are by far the two best-sounding music compilations I have in my collection...

[Simon_LDT]

Originally Posted by FreyTheater

I thought the lossless DTS-MA track on the Snakes and Arrows Concert Blu-ray sounded tremendous - just as impressive as the Pink Floyd DSotM SACD, which is pretty much reference quality for 5.1 SACD. Those are by far the two best-sounding music compilations I have in my collection...

Yes, the live blu-ray surround is superb. I was talking about the album 5.1 mix (which was lossy and poorly mixed). It came on the MVI version of the album (CD/DVD pack).

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by Simon_LDT

Yes, the live blu-ray surround is superb. I was talking about the album 5.1 mix (which was lossy and poorly mixed). It came on the MVI version of the album (CD/DVD pack).

yep - i was disappointed they didn't put the 5.1 mix on Snakes as DVD-A at the very least, but i agree with you: the stereo mix sounds superior to the 5.1 mix.

if i recall, the release also provided MP3s of the album.

[Crimson King]

These guys need to be inducted into "The Rock N' Roll Hall Fame".

[dobyblue]

More info:

The 5.1 Surround Sound remix of RUSH's classic 1981 album "Moving Pictures" will be released on April 5. Two packages will be made available — a CD/DVD set and a CD/BD (Blu-ray disc) set. According to the RushIsABand.com web site, the CD will contain the stereo mix while the DVD/Blu-ray will contain the Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo mix. As an added bonus the DVD/Blu-ray will also contain 5.1 mixes of the music videos for "Tom Sawyer", "Limelight" and "Vital Signs".

"Moving Pictures" 5.1 Surround Sound remix track listing:

Disc 1:

01. Tom Sawyer
02. Red Barchetta
03. YYZ
04. Limelight
05. The Camera Eye
06. Witch Hunt
07. Vital Signs

Disc 2:

01. Tom Sawyer (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
02. Red Barchetta (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
03. YYZ (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
04. Limelight (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
05. The Camera Eye (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
06. Witch Hunt (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
07. Vital Signs (Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo)
08. Tom Sawyer (Music Video - 5.1 & Stereo)
09. Limelight (Music Video - 5.1 & Stereo)

The 5.1 Surround Sound remix of "Moving Pictures" was handled by Canadian producer/engineer Richard Chycki — who is known for his work with AEROSMITH and OUR LADY PEACE, and who teamed up with Nick Raskulinecz (RUSH, DEATH ANGEL, STONE SOUR) on RUSH's last studio album, 2007's "Snakes & Arrows". He recently wrote on his official blog, "I finished tweaks on 'Red Barchetta' [on February 3]. It really was an amazing experience to spread the original tracks of such a classic CD into the 3D word of surround. (The car speeds off, goes behind and banks a sharp right in rear, [by the way]). The listening experience is drastically enveloping and coupled with songs and performances that epitomize this band, it's definitely a great time to re-discover RUSH.

"After discussion with the band, the goal here was to pay serious homage to the production of the era so a considerable amount of time was spent researching and working through effects, etc. that matched the original but would fare well in the 5.1 world. And, of course, placement was also a critical issue. I'm pleased with the results and [RUSH guitarist] Alex Lifeson was pretty blown away when he came in to listen to the finals."

RUSH's current "Time Machine Tour" is an evening with the band, where they perform their classics, give a taste of the future — and for the first time ever — feature the "Moving Pictures" album live in its entirety.

Released in 1981, "Moving Pictures" was RUSH's most successful album, certified four-times platinum and features some of the band's most well known songs and perennial radio favourites "Tom Sawyer", "Limelight" and the Grammy-nominated instrumental "YYZ".

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

More info:

The 5.1 Surround Sound remix of RUSH's classic 1981 album "Moving Pictures" will be released on April 5. Two packages will be made available — a CD/DVD set and a CD/BD (Blu-ray disc) set. According to the RushIsABand.com web site, the CD will contain the stereo mix while the DVD/Blu-ray will contain the Audiophile 5.1 Surround and Stereo mix. As an added bonus the DVD/Blu-ray will also contain 5.1 mixes of the music videos for "Tom Sawyer", "Limelight" and "Vital Signs".

The 5.1 Surround Sound remix of "Moving Pictures" was handled by Canadian producer/engineer Richard Chycki — who is known for his work with AEROSMITH and OUR LADY PEACE, and who teamed up with Nick Raskulinecz (RUSH, DEATH ANGEL, STONE SOUR) on RUSH's last studio album, 2007's "Snakes & Arrows". He recently wrote on his official blog, "I finished tweaks on 'Red Barchetta' [on February 3]. It really was an amazing experience to spread the original tracks of such a classic CD into the 3D word of surround. (The car speeds off, goes behind and banks a sharp right in rear, [by the way]). The listening experience is drastically enveloping and coupled with songs and performances that epitomize this band, it's definitely a great time to re-discover RUSH.

"After discussion with the band, the goal here was to pay serious homage to the production of the era so a considerable amount of time was spent researching and working through effects, etc. that matched the original but would fare well in the 5.1 world. And, of course, placement was also a critical issue. I'm pleased with the results and [RUSH guitarist] Alex Lifeson was pretty blown away when he came in to listen to the finals."

RUSH's current "Time Machine Tour" is an evening with the band, where they perform their classics, give a taste of the future — and for the first time ever — feature the "Moving Pictures" album live in its entirety.

Released in 1981, "Moving Pictures" was RUSH's most successful album, certified four-times platinum and features some of the band's most well known songs and perennial radio favourites "Tom Sawyer", "Limelight" and the Grammy-nominated instrumental "YYZ".

I caught this tour last year (Mohegan Sun Arena, Ct) & was Blown AWAY when they did the entire MOVING PICTURES to open the 2nd half of their show. The Lighting for this segment of the show was Unbelievable to say the least. Their Long-time Lighting guy (Howard Ungerleider, who joined RUSH in July of 1974) was close enough to where we sat (back of arena, about 10 rows off the floor, Great Visual vantage point to watch!), so after the show ended I walked down & said hello to him & complimented him on an Outstanding job on the Lighting; especially in the MOVING PICTURES part of the show. He was very cool, friendly, & apprciative. I Hope they come around my area again This year on the (extended) "Time Machine Tour".

Nov. 2004 Interview

2008 Interview

[Crimson King]

I like Moving Pictures alot , but A Farewell To Kings has always been my favorite Rush slbum. I've had AFTK on 8-track cartridge, cassette, 3 vinyl LPs, and both CD editions (orginal release and the remastered one).