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Old 07-06-2011, 10:43 AM   #21
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:31 PM   #22
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Widescreen-o-Rama! All About Aspect Ratios

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Old 07-06-2011, 10:46 PM   #23
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I already posted that in this thread here.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:11 PM   #24
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Didn't want to post this in the 3D BD forums because it's for the theater....
You do realize that you lure me in with those posts having a title emphasized with a question mark inside a Blu bubble, don’t you?
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:19 PM   #25
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It's shot with the Red One Camera (Same Camera used in CHE and Knowing) and native 3D. I seen the trailer for it when I watched Sanctum.
Hi Trog , not exactly, and since I view you as a noble stickler for technical details….. ‘Pirates’ was shot with a Red having the newer Mysterium-X Sensor, which is quite a bit different as compared to the original sensor on the Red One used for Che 1&2, etc.….namely, the MX sensor boasts a greater dynamic range and light sensitivity as well as a higher resolution capability. In terms of the later, the images for ‘Pirates’ were acquired in RED 4.5K widescreen shooting mode with 10% pad around framing line.

However, as with a host of other advanced information you gratefully provide on this forum (New Display Technologies, for instance), you’re right about the ‘native’ part though. FWIW, see this post for the convergence point and z-space particulars for those wondering what the image will look like (and why) before having the chance to view it, if the subject tickles your fancy….

http://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-dis...ml#post4812947
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:20 PM   #26
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:33 PM   #27
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Thanks for sharing that. I've always called positive and negative parallax the + and - "z-space". With 0 on the z-space being the screen.

Also, it's cool to know that the supervising stereographer for The Amazing Spider-Man also worked on Pirates Of The Caribbean On Stranger Tides.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:39 PM   #28
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:20 PM   #29
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I get what he's saying. I usually don't care either, but 3D usually benefits from 16:9 releases. The strength of the image often depends on the size of the screen. So, the most room taken by the screen, the better.
The best 3D films from my experience are Coraline, Despicable Me and the IMAX documentaries.
Avatar looked better in 3D in 1.78 at a store demo than from the 2.39 3D trailer attached to the Extended Edition.

I'm all for respecting the original image, I just wish that directors would choose to shoot in taller aspect ratios for 3D films. I usually prefer 2.35 but for 3D, taller is better than wider.
Isn't a 16:9 screen size taller and wider and not just wider ?

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Old 07-09-2011, 02:50 AM   #30
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Isn't a 16:9 screen size taller and wider and not just wider ?
No that doesn't make any sense.

Just imagine three shapes.

Theres a square(4:3), a rectangle(16:9) and then there's long rectangle(2.35-2.40). Normally, in a theater the square fits in the rectangle, but that rectangle fits in an even longer rectangle. A 2.35 image usually meant that the film was treated really well because it was on a huge screen.

but with TV, they decided to choose the middle sized rectangle. This way, the square isn't too small on a long rectangle TV screen and the long rectangle isn't too skinny on a square TV screen. As a result, rectangle films completely fill the screen and are "taller".
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No that doesn't make any sense.

Just imagine three shapes.

Theres a square(4:3), a rectangle(16:9) and then there's long rectangle(2.35-2.40). Normally, in a theater the square fits in the rectangle, but that rectangle fits in an even longer rectangle. A 2.35 image usually meant that the film was treated really well because it was on a huge screen.

but with TV, they decided to choose the middle sized rectangle. This way, the square isn't too small on a long rectangle TV screen and the long rectangle isn't too skinny on a square TV screen. As a result, rectangle films completely fill the screen and are "taller".
Okay, so then is Pirates 4 a rectangle film that, will fill the whole screen on an hdtv and is taller ? . Or will the black bars be on the top and bottom of Pirates 4 on 2D blu ray and 3D blu ray ?
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Okay, so then is Pirates 4 a rectangle film that, will fill the whole screen on an hdtv and is taller ? . Or will the black bars be on the top and bottom of Pirates 4 on 2D blu ray and 3D blu ray ?
You asked that question before and I answered it before. See post #7 above.
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You asked that question before and I answered it before. See post #7 above.
That is the incorrect aspect ratio for it on 2D Blu ray and 3D Blu ray. The correct one for it on 2D Blu ray and 3D Blu ray is 2.39:1 , not 2.35:1. Look here on this webpage -> http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Pirate...Blu-ray/24212/ , and you'll see what i mean.

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Sean,

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!

2.35 and 2.39 are VERY CLOSE!!!!
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Here's proof:




As you can see, the black bars on a 2.39:1 film are slightly larger than the black bars on a 2.35:1 film when displayed on a 16:9 HDTV.
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Sean,

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!

2.35 and 2.39 are VERY CLOSE!!!!
I see what you mean, but even though the black bars are very close in shape and size on an hdtv, they still are not the exact same size (aspect ratio).

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Here's proof:




As you can see, the black bars on a 2.39:1 film are slightly larger than the black bars on a 2.35:1 film when displayed on a 16:9 HDTV.
I can see that even from that chart, that the black bars are not the exact same size, meaning the aspect ratio.

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I can see that even from that chart, that the black bars are not the exact same size, meaning the aspect ratio.
And yet, that is completely irrelevant given that your original question (which you asked multiple times and that was answered multiple times) was whether there will be black bars when watching this movie on an (16:9) HDTV.
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And yet, that is completely irrelevant given that your original question (which you asked multiple times and that was answered multiple times) was whether there will be black bars when watching this movie on an (16:9) HDTV.
Well, that's because i was very confused about whether or not Pirates 4 on 2D and 3D blu ray, would have the black bars or not. I had asked if it will have the black bears on the top and bottom because, i knew that Pirates 4 was filmed in 3D, and so i wanted to know what the screen aspect ratio would look like on an hdtv in 2D and 3D.
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