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Old 04-12-2011, 09:18 PM   #1
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India/Bollywood Patiala House (2011) Blu-Ray - T-Series (Screen Shots)


Patiala House
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Video: AVC - 1080p
Audio: DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio / Dolby Digital 5.1
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:19 PM   #2
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Uff those colors. These screenshots look ugly, specially considering that this is a new title.

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Old 04-12-2011, 11:22 PM   #3
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For goodness sake Sanjay, already with the negativity? I mean what are your expectations for these movies? These caps ARE an improvement over the mediocre dvd of this same title .
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Old 04-13-2011, 02:01 AM   #4
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For goodness sake Sanjay, already with the negativity? I mean what are your expectations for these movies? These caps ARE an improvement over the mediocre dvd of this same title .
To hell with your mediocre mindset. Blu-ray itself is a standard & has no connection whatsoever with how the effing DVD looks. A Blu-ray has to look good on its own & not how the DVD looks. Anything that looks better than a Crap DVD becomes Blu-ray? Cmon man with this approach Bollywood BDs are really going to die. This is a 2011 film & it looks plain HORRIBLE, But Blu-ray has the potential to even make titles from 20 to 50 years back look much shinier & life-like than this crap on blu-ray. Yea its no more than Crap on Blu-ray.
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Old 04-13-2011, 02:31 AM   #5
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To hell with your mediocre mindset. Blu-ray itself is a standard & has no connection whatsoever with how the effing DVD looks. A Blu-ray has to look good on its own & not how the DVD looks. Anything that looks better than a Crap DVD becomes Blu-ray? Cmon man with this approach Bollywood BDs are really going to die. This is a 2011 film & it looks plain HORRIBLE, But Blu-ray has the potential to even make titles from 20 to 50 years back look much shinier & life-like than this crap on blu-ray. Yea its no more than Crap on Blu-ray.
y r ur panties in such a wad man? nice lecture btw. Ur condemning the whole disc based on SCREENCAPS, now that has a better chance of killing BWOOD BD quicker than my approach ever will. Its a pity the CAPS aren't "shinier" enough for u. lmao. first people complain about lack of releases then complain about the releases when they finally come.

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:22 AM   #6
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first people complain about lack of releases then complain about the releases when they finally come.
If the releases are going to be as bad as these screenshots suggest and the blu-rays are going to be worse than a good quality DVD, then we are actually better off without any releases. Releasing a movie on blu-ray just for the sake of it is not the point, rather it is the quality that is expected from a blu-ray which makes us want blu-rays and if that purpose is not to be served then the whole point of the blu-ray release is defeated. I fail to understnad the relevance of making a comparison to the DVD and personally I don't care how much better this blu-ray is than the DVD. The fact that the DVD is crap does not make this blu-ray any better than what it is..


PS: Please excuse me for asking, but are you in anyways connected with T-Series or the production of this blu-ray? The reason I ask is that it is rather strange that you registered on this forum only to defend this blu-ray release.

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:26 AM   #7
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while the quality doesnt look the best it doesnt look that bad. I can see some DNR in some screens but from what i saw in the theaters the screens look pretty close to it.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:00 AM   #8
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Seems like the contrast has been tampered with or the scene was shot under poor lighting conditions. I did a comparison of the original with the same cap on +0.2 contrast. Looks more natural, in my opinion.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/43482

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Old 04-13-2011, 08:02 AM   #9
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what the hell is wrong with t series.....the movie is brand new....they themselves are the producers so the excuse of bad source was given cannot be made so why all this?? wanted and sarkar raj though watermarked had too too too good PQ (according to me) why are they deteriorating day by day?? all these movies are shot with same cameras and the cinematographer of this movie is also quite capable and the background is also bright and colourfull (unlike vishal bhardwaj's films)then why just average PQ .....ITS OK it may be better than the DVD but why is it not among the best....why the PQ is not excellent??!!
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:22 AM   #10
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Default i agree Patiala house thanks t series

First i agree, thanks T series for releasing this so quick. Almost two weeks after dvd release, thank you. This from someone still waiting for hindi robot 7 months later and almost given up

How can people critique a movie without seeing it based on screenshots. I actually like many of the Akshay close ups, good level of detail. T series has always produced steller blu rays. I believe Don was theirs and was truly amazing, so wait till i have a copy on my hands.
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:08 AM   #11
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If the releases are going to be as bad as these screenshots suggest and the blu-rays are going to be worse than a good quality DVD, then we are actually better off without any releases. Releasing a movie on blu-ray just for the sake of it is not the point, rather it is the quality that is expected from a blu-ray which makes us want blu-rays and if that purpose is not to be served then the whole point of the blu-ray release is defeated. I fail to understnad the relevance of making a comparison to the DVD and personally I don't care how much better this blu-ray is than the DVD. The fact that the DVD is crap does not make this blu-ray any better than what it is..


PS: Please excuse me for asking, but are you in anyways connected with T-Series or the production of this blu-ray? The reason I ask is that it is rather strange that you registered on this forum only to defend this blu-ray release.
Not connected to T-Series in any way. How is comparing the PQ to DVD not relevant, isn't that how u judged the format when it first came out? I was pleased when I found out this title was releasing, but was highly irritated at the negativity based on SCREENCAPS instead of the actual PRODUCT so I had to join and say give the bloody thing a chance. good luck in getting ur 5 star PQ/AQ from these companies instead of being satisfied by what you get. Y u don't u e-mail t series and bi**h about the quality and see how many titles are released in the future. In hindsite if I had known u all were going to whine and complain so much about my post, then perhaps I wasted my time in joining.

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Old 04-13-2011, 11:33 AM   #12
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I understand that commenting on SS is not a good idea when we have seen many cases where SS look far from the real BD and we have also seen SS which are very close to what it looks in real.

I think with a dearth of release recently, people's hopes were high and some who are keen on quality shared their opinion on what they think.

I am possibly going to do the same mistake here by commenting so don't shoot me.
Just looking at SS, I can see one positive thing
  • It has a more or less filmic look - less boosted contrast
But I also see a couple of problems (if the SS are close to what they are in actual)
  • Color - it is not just oversaturated but seems to be suffering from some banding and color space issue (will be able to confirm on viewing the BD)
  • DNR - For a new film it does look bad in SS
  • Although i found it positive, but some scenes have the boosted contrast issue resulting in color burn or blown out contrast(look for bright areas in image 3,4 and 10. If you look at the full res pic it looks pretty bad.
Some people have mentioned that it looks quite muted in terms of luminance. Not sure if it was filmed that way with most scenes in overcast conditions. However, this could have been rectified in post-processing after shooting unless the director wanted to show it that way.

I will hold further comments till I see it in my cinema room. Look forward to comments from members once they have seen it.

Lastly, I do like to mention that we should never stop our demand for quality. To me, quality comes first over no of releases. Some may have a different opinion but since Bollywood will have only 1 release for each film we better demand quality and wait for it than settle with a mediocre release.

My thoughts only....Let's see how it looks in real.

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Not connected to T-Series in any way. How is comparing the PQ to DVD not relevant, isn't that how u judged the format when it first came out? I was pleased when I found out this title was releasing, but was highly irritated at the negativity based on SCREENCAPS instead of the actual PRODUCT so I had to join and say give the bloody thing a chance. good luck in getting ur 5 star PQ/AQ from these companies instead of being satisfied by what you get. Y u don't u e-mail t series and bi**h about the quality and see how many titles are released in the future. In hindsite if I had known u all were going to whine and complain so much about my post, then perhaps I wasted my time in joining.
Hi All

I know we all having issues with the SS, but wait for someone who has actually watched the disc to comment, instead of everyone getting into each others hair. Its been a new release after a while, we are hungry for bolly blu rays, so naturally it will come under attack when you see screen shots like this ....

computesurf, welcome to the forum. you didnt waste your time, you'll encounter many such situations on here, it will become normal. The key is to remember we discussing a blu ray disc, it shouldnt be taken personally. Enjoy
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:45 PM   #14
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Couldn't agree more...

Wait from someone to actually view the blu-ray disc before passing judgement based on SS shots.

computesurf welcome to the forum, and you will get use to the high amount of negative posting in here, for which one can never win.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:25 PM   #15
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Thanks for the welcome mrbrat_Boy and desiguy2447. I am relieved that there are some nice people, with whom one can carry on a proper conversation with, in this forum besides those “experts” (who seem to believe they are the supreme authority on all things that is blu), I have been dealing with.

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Old 04-13-2011, 08:18 PM   #16
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Thanks for the welcome mrbrat_Boy and desiguy2447. I am relieved that there are some nice people, with whom one can carry on a proper conversation with, in this forum besides those “experts” (who seem to believe they are the supreme authority on all things that is blu), I have been dealing with.
Why is it that you are so upset with the criticism of this BD, specially if as you claim, that you are not in any ways personally involved in it's production? What I am failing to understand is, what exactly is it that you have an issue with? Is it that you do not agree that these screenshots are quite crappy for a blu-ray of a current movie? Or are you actually upset with people calling a spade a spade? If you are happy and content with the kind of quality these screenshots potentially represent, then so be it. You have every right to your opinion and have every right to spend your money on whatever you please. But at the same time, others too have their own opinions and they too have as much right to express their views, be they negative or positive. Unlike your post, not one person has attacked you or made any disparaging remarks about you in any posts here. By making aspersions about people's "niceness", simply because they difer with your views or dissent from what more and more seems like your vested interests, only speaks volumes about yourself. I am also wondering who and what "dealing" are you referring to when you state "I have been dealing with".

PS: It is true, that screenshots can sometimes be misleading and that the actual blu-ray at times is better than what the screenshots may suggest. But, it is also a fact, that more often than not, screenshots do give a pretty good idea of what the actual blu-ray will look like. Either way, if you were to read my original post more carefully, you will see that my comments are quite clearly made in reference to the posted screenshots without any direct mention of the actual blu-ray.

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Old 04-13-2011, 09:27 PM   #17
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Why is it that you are so upset with the criticism of this BD, specially if as you claim, that you are not in any ways personally involved in it's production? What I am failing to understand is, what exactly is it that you have an issue with? Is it that you do not agree that these screenshots are quite crappy for a blu-ray of a current movie? Or are you actually upset with people calling a spade a spade? If you are happy and content with the kind of quality these screenshots potentially represent, then so be it. You have every right to your opinion and have every right to spend your money on whatever you please. But at the same time, others too have their own opinions and they too have as much right to express their views, be they negative or positive. Unlike your post, not one person has attacked you or made any disparaging remarks about you in any posts here. By making aspersions about people's "niceness", simply because they difer with your views or dissent from what more and more seems like your vested interests, only speaks volumes about yourself. I am also wondering who and what "dealing" are you referring to when you state "I have been dealing with".

PS: It is true, that screenshots can sometimes be misleading and that the actual blu-ray at times is better than what the screenshots may suggest. But, it is also a fact, that more often than not, screenshots do give a pretty good idea of what the actual blu-ray will look like. Either way, if you were to read my original post more carefully, you will see that my comments are quite clearly made in reference to the posted screenshots without any direct mention of the actual blu-ray.
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ok so ur offended I called u an expert, well then U R NOT an expert (feel better?)

what volumes exactly does that say about myself? y don't u look at yourself ? a 'senior member' of this forum who believes that I MUST be working for t-series all because i disagreed with u and said to give the actual product a chance instead of condemning it based on screencaps. I think that is sadder and "speaks more volumes" than my complimenting those who took the time to welcome me to the forum.

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Old 04-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #18
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what volumes exactly does that say about myself? then what about yourself ? a 'senior member' of this forum who assumes that I MUST be working for t-series all because i disagreed with u and said to give the actual product a chance instead of condemning it based on screencaps. what VOLUMES does that speak?
I have made no such assumption and I have simply and quite forthrightly just asked you a question and have accepted your answer without challenging it. As for my original post, I would request you to please read my post again, reproduced below for your convenience, for you shall clearly see, that I have in no ways condemned the blu-ray and as a matter of fact, I have not even made any reference to the blu-ray in my short post. My post refers only to the screenshots and how ugly they look. Which in my opinion is by any imagination, quite an accurate assesment. No more, no less.

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Uff those colors. These screenshots look ugly, specially considering that this is a new title.

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ok so ur offended I called u an expert, well then U R NOT an expert (feel better?)
Apparently while I was typing my post above, you have edited your post to add the above.
First of all, I am neither offended or pleased by you calling me an 'expert' or not calling me one. Secondly, fortunately my self esteem is not dependent on you, or anyone else for that matter, calling me an expert to make me "feel better". Finally and more importantly, you, as well as anyone else who comprehends English and reads your post, reproduced below for your convenience, should quite clearly be able to comprehend what it is that is offensive about your post.

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I am relieved that there are some nice people, with whom one can carry on a proper conversation with, in this forum besides those “experts” (who seem to believe they are the supreme authority on all things that is blu), I have been dealing with.

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Sanjay and the new dude- give it a rest!

But the screen shots do look ugly... and the movie sucks crap! I am sure our lives can be better spent watching and criticizing better films than this!
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