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Old 12-15-2016, 07:49 PM   #1
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I've recently replaced my Epson 5030 with the 5040 as I wanted the auto lens features. I'm happy with that upgrade but am quite disappointed with increased levels of crosstalk. While I would very rarely see it on the 5030 during extreme contrast differences, it's much more common on the 5040.

I called Epson and a tech representative told me there was no change whatsoever on the 3-D specs between the two projectors. But - something is different to be causing this issue. The 3-D image has been properly calibrated and I'm using the official Epson RF glasses.

Anyone else experience this issue?
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Hi Bob,

I would return it and get the Sony 3D projector that Reed over at HTF has. Reed was over my house and we watched the 3D Sponge Bob movie on the Panasonic AE8000 and we did notice some scenes with crosstalk. He claims he sees no crosstalk on his Sony for the same movie. Excellent review over at Projector Central and only $1865.

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Edit: I just remembered that I lowered the brightness/contrast setting and it greatly reduced or eliminated crosstalk for the Sponge Bob movie. The Sony is not as bright as the Panasonic so, that might have something to do with it also.

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Technology: 0.7" 3 LCD
Lamp Life: 3500 Hours
Audible Noise: 31 dB
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Contrast: 500000:1
Technology: 0.7" 3 LCD
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Thanks, Roland. I'm going to try some different brightness settings this weekend.
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Maybe one of the pixel shift enhancements create the crosstalk.
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Maybe one of the pixel shift enhancements create the crosstalk.
No hands-on expereince with Epson here, but I suspect a pixel shift enhancement feature will require accurate 3D calibration patterns for precise positioning and alignment at visual intersecting points. Necessary for one to one pixel mapping..
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Thanks, Roland. I'm going to try some different brightness settings this weekend.
I see that the 5030UB has a contrast rating of 600000:1 while the 5040UB is 1000000:1 - (almost double the 5030UB). That might affect it.
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I'm going offtopic here, but since we're talking about crosstalk on projectors...

I wish DLP projectors would have

1) Enough brightness to view 3-D without squinting eyes. Some DLP's like my Optoma HD37 do this.

2) A dynamic iris like high-end LCD and LCoS projectors have to improve black levels. The dynamic lamp helps, but it's not enough. Some DLP owners are resorting to oddball ideas like buying neutral density filters used on cameras to improve black levels.

3) High-End features like Lens Memory. Something the Optoma HD91 doesn't even have despite it's high price tag.

I know a consumer-level 3-chip DLP to avoid RBE is out of the question, so I won't go there, but DLP manufacturers could do a lot more to improve the 3-D experience beyond just offering low cross-talk.
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