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Old 10-31-2014, 02:30 PM   #1
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USA Why is Disney not releasing 3D blu rays?

I cannot believe that Disney is still holding back on all their 3D releases in the US on blu ray! Planes Fire and Rescue is another title being short-changed. Frozen and Maleficent are both available on region free 3D blu ray from the UK. Why should we pay higher prices for imports when these films are popular here in the states.

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Old 10-31-2014, 02:39 PM   #2
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Low sales.
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Yeah, I think they are pulling them due to underwhelming sales numbers. So far we have missed out on Planes: Fire & Rescue and Frozen.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:50 PM   #4
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An ill-advised exclusivity deal with VUDU?
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:55 PM   #5
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An ill-advised exclusivity deal with VUDU?
I won't be buying any 3D titles to stream. That's just beyond moronic in my opinion.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:58 PM   #6
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it looks like it's in every other country basically.
god Disney is a bunch of morons at this point. I mean you're not going to release one of the biggest animated films you've had in decades on 3D in the US?
wow, bd really has peaked long ago.
how long until the format is dead? 1 more year maybe?
(oh I forgot, 4K bd to the rescue)
uhh sure.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:03 PM   #7
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Yeah, I think they are pulling them due to underwhelming sales numbers. So far we have missed out on Planes: Fire & Rescue and Frozen.
Maleficent?
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:05 PM   #8
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Yeah, I think they are pulling them due to underwhelming sales numbers. So far we have missed out on Planes: Fire & Rescue and Frozen.
And Maleficent. And arguably Need For Speed.

edit: ↑ beat me to it
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:09 PM   #9
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Maleficent?
Maleficent and Need for Speed were both conversions.
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Maleficent and Need for Speed were both conversions.
So They were released in theaters in 3D and overseas in 3D.
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So They were released in theaters in 3D and overseas in 3D.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:16 PM   #12
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I called Disney when Maleficent was was still listed as region B on Amazon UK. I asked why no release in the USA? Was the release in the UK region free? Why a release in Mexico but not the USA? The customer service agent went away to ask for answers and when she came back she had no answer to any of my questions. If they have a marketing plan, no seems to know it.

So I know have Maleficent 3D to sit along my Frozen 3D and Oz 3D 2 pack, all from the UK on my shelf.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:23 PM   #13
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Most of the UK Disney releases are region free and available there even after they return to the Disney vault here. Plus some have alternate covers. Why not just buy from there if it is an option? Price wise, you probably won't pay more as you usually can get the blu-ray by itself instead of in the combo packs that we get here. not 3D but http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?rh=i%3Advd...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

It is like all studios - North America is where they make their money so they charge more and play games with the consumer that they won't elsewhere because they don't think we are smart enough to look at places like Amazon UK and find the exact same product for cheaper there. I am looking at Amazon UK more and more often because if I can find a couple movies I want, it is usually cheaper to buy them and ship them over than to buy them here(Universal Monsters, Superman set, James Dean collection for example). Plus they tend to get great sales that we don't get here(the Star Trek blu-ray sale).
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:26 PM   #14
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An ill-advised exclusivity deal with VUDU?
No, because you can buy 3D digital copies of Frozen, Planes: Fire & Rescue, and Need For Speed through Sony's Video Unlimited service on the PS3.

Vudu is not the only 3D digital format provider out there folks. It is simply due to sales numbers of already released 3D Blu-rays.
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Maleficent and Need for Speed were both conversions.
Maleficent was clearly shoot for 3d though and features native cgi (it is unclear to what degree though). The flying scenes where native though from what I have read.


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No, because you can buy 3D digital copies of Frozen, Planes: Fire & Rescue, and Need For Speed through Sony's Video Unlimited service on the PS3.

Vudu is not the only 3D digital format provider out there folks. It is simply due to sales numbers of already released 3D Blu-rays.
So how does releasing it in Mexico or Australia make sense then? It would seem their is more to it then a simple answer. I blame general incompetence though, it certainly fits Disneys recent release trends (missing lossless audio, horrid cropped transfers, increased prices less discs and content etc).

Maybe their trying to see what they can get away with before sales are affected.

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So how does releasing it in Mexico or Australia make sense then?
Whatever the market conditions are abroad, they can sustain releasing 3D BDs.
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Maleficent was clearly shoot for 3d though and features native cgi (it is unclear to what degree though). The flying scenes where native though.
No, you are mistaken. The entire film was shot in 2D digitally with the Arri Alexa cameras at 2.8K and then converted to 3D. The same cameras were used for Skyfall.
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No, you are mistaken. The entire film was shot in 2D digitally with the Arri Alexa cameras at 2.8K and then converted to 3D. The same cameras were used for Skyfall.
and how do you capture cgi with cameras? I never said the live action was native, and yes you can shoot for 3d in 2d. Several shoots in avatar are converted for example, or we could look at the live action elements in Gravity. The key is intention, Godzilla wasn't intended for 3d and was given a tacked on conversion. 3d was very clearly taking into consideration when making Maleficent.


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Whatever the market conditions are abroad, they can sustain releasing 3D BDs.
It's big business and disney (who have always been 'funny' with there home releases), I think their is more to it then one factor like that.
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it looks like it's in every other country basically.
god Disney is a bunch of morons at this point. I mean you're not going to release one of the biggest animated films you've had in decades on 3D in the US?
wow, bd really has peaked long ago.
how long until the format is dead? 1 more year maybe?
(oh I forgot, 4K bd to the rescue)
uhh sure.
So I gather the odds of seeing 4K + 3D discs are probably not good, huh.

No seriously, I was wondering awhile back whether 3D would be part of the 4K spec. But I guess that's a moot point, since studios like Disney probably wouldn't support it even if they had a quick and easy way.

It is pretty shocking they would draw the line at Frozen. That's like a big FU to anyone that's actually been supporting 3D. I realize the market is probably small, but damn... come on.
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So I gather the odds of seeing 4K + 3D discs are probably not good, huh.

No seriously, I was wondering awhile back whether 3D would be part of the 4K spec. But I guess that's a moot point, since studios like Disney probably wouldn't support it even if they had a quick and easy way.

It is pretty shocking they would draw the line at Frozen. That's like a big FU to anyone that's actually been supporting 3D. I realize the market is probably small, but damn... come on.
In terms of feature films only one 4k 3d film exists that I know of. Given tv manufacturers have been spending money on glasses free solutions for 3d I would be beyond shocked if 3d wasn't part of the spec. Their is really very little reason for it not to be. It is only one company in one market not releasing 3d blu-rays. Hardly a mass exile.
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