The Tree Of Life - October 11

[retablo]

Originally Posted by keldons

$20 is not dirt cheap. Plenty of bands tell their fans to download their music and spread the word. I don't know how pervasive that attitude is in the film industry, but I'm sure it will have to be embraced soon. Yet again, sorry some of us are actually discerning buyers and have a limited income to spend on films. 904 films = probably not the guy I talk to when I want to talk about getting films without going broke. Dont care about your opinion, sorry.

Don't care about yours, either. But if you really want a piece of art, you pay what its worth. If it's not worth it to you, then you don't want it that badly.

In addition, we aren't talking Transformers here. We are talking a very small, niche film that lost money theatrically (domestically). Therefore, a little higher price on blu. Without that, films like this eventually die. But hey, whatever works for ya.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by retablo

Don't care about yours, either. But if you really want a piece of art, you pay what its worth. If it's not worth it to you, then you don't want it that badly.

In addition, we aren't talking Transformers here. We are talking a very small, niche film that lost money theatrically (domestically). Therefore, a little higher price on blu. Without that, films like this eventually die. But hey, whatever works for ya.

dont worry, when I paid $30 to see it with my girlfriend I supported Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, and the other struggling artists at 20th Century Fox

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by keldons

$20 is not dirt cheap. Plenty of bands tell their fans to download their music and spread the word. I don't know how pervasive that attitude is in the film industry, but I'm sure it will have to be embraced soon. Yet again, sorry some of us are actually discerning buyers and have a limited income to spend on films. 904 films = probably not the guy I talk to when I want to talk about getting films without going broke. Dont care about your opinion, sorry.

Originally Posted by keldons

dont worry, when I paid $30 to see it with my girlfriend I supported Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, and the other struggling artists at 20th Century Fox

Your posts went from ignorant, annoying, now your being flat out rude. Lets be adults here keldons, no need to act like this around here.

[keldons]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Your posts went from ignorant, annoying, now your being flat out rude. Lets be adults here keldons, no need to act like this around here.

no need to sugarcoat how I really feel.

wait: so claiming the average Michael Bay fan won't like Tree of Life or saying 20th Century Fox, and Brad Pitt/Sean Penn don't need my money is ignorant? Please prove these points otherwise (we can spend a couple pages debating this uselessly). I put more than my share into current, classic, and foreign cinema (not to mention buying plenty of films from niche distributors....and I don't just mean Criterion or Kino), so I don't really see what I'm missing here. I paid $30 to see this film in a theatre, I will be paying for the blu-ray. Retablo has lectured me about paying full price or whatever multiple times (in multiple threads), I can say what I'd like to him, mommy. I support my favorite filmmakers/musicians/writers/whatever all the time, don't need some guy to lecture me on "supporting artists". I've let bands on tour sleep in my basement for god sakes.

whether or not I'm annoying is your opinion, but if you have a problem, ignore my posts or take it up with me in PM, stop polluting the thread with it.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by keldons

no need to sugarcoat how I really feel.

wait: so claiming the average Michael Bay fan won't like Tree of Life or saying 20th Century Fox, and Brad Pitt/Sean Penn don't need my money is ignorant? Please prove these points otherwise (we can spend a couple pages debating this uselessly). I put more than my share into current, classic, and foreign cinema (not to mention buying plenty of films from niche distributors....and I don't just mean Criterion or Kino), so I don't really see what I'm missing here. I paid $30 to see this film in a theatre, I will be paying for the blu-ray. Retablo has lectured me about paying full price or whatever multiple times (in multiple threads), I can say what I'd like to him, mommy. I support my favorite filmmakers/musicians/writers/whatever all the time, don't need some guy to lecture me on "supporting artists". I've let bands on tour sleep in my basement for god sakes.

whether or not I'm annoying is your opinion, but if you have a problem, ignore my posts or take it up with me in PM, stop polluting the thread with it.

Telling other members that "I don't care what your opinion is" then continuing to spread your own agenda is not only insulting to members here, its flat out childish.

Your welcome to contribute to the discourse in a productive way, but your posts here are doing the opposite by pulling the discussion off topic and talking down to other members who challenge what you think.

What you are accomplishing is more like thread crapping and less like starting a thoughtful debate. I can see that we have reached an end to this discussion as we have both stated our sides of the issue, so I will just say this for now: "If you cant say something nice, don't say anything at all."

[keldons]

anyone's amazon order shipped? I went ahead and ordered a few hours back and it almost immediately turned to Shipping Soon. My copy of Pulp Fiction shipped last saturday too, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

[shesha]

Is anyone having playback and feezing issues playing this on a PS3?
I am. The movie took for ever to load and the it locked up on certain chapters.

[Fett]

whats interesting to me is that Sean Penn feels the film would have been better if it had a tighter narrative. now from what is rumored, there is a 6 hour longer cut that focuses much more on the story of the three boys. Perhaps this cut is much closer to the original script Penn fell in love with? do you guys think this movie will ever get an extended cut double dip? or will it be released on the criterion collection along with the theatrical cut?

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by retablo

Don't care about yours, either. But if you really want a piece of art, you pay what its worth. If it's not worth it to you, then you don't want it that badly.

In addition, we aren't talking Transformers here. We are talking a very small, niche film that lost money theatrically (domestically). Therefore, a little higher price on blu. Without that, films like this eventually die. But hey, whatever works for ya.

I get a little reluctant about calling a 30 million dollar production with big names a "small, niche" film, I'm not even sure if Mallick was looking forward to profiting from it. I think it had more to do with the reserved marketing of the film; I stayed in a town for the summer that is about 120 miles from the closest showing for 4 months to see it, and couldn't do that just for a movie.

Then I moved to my college for a second year and their small (POS) "independent theater", with barely a discount, finally showed it, like a week when it's coming out on blu ray, pretty bone headed IMO.

I also don't like that attitude about "paying for art" is extremely discouraging, I think we all like to not pay (sacrifice is a more proper term) for many things, but that doesn't mean people that want it cheap are "Booze drinking NASCAR, porn watching degenerate redneck racist" stereotypes. I know alot of morons that are bourgeois types that are not much better, paying for equipment and cars they have no appreciation of.

Anyways I'm extremely excited about seeing this film on my projector when it comes out in a few days

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by shesha

I bought my copy yesterday. I watched the special feature examining the Tree of Life.(I think its called) I will watch the movie on Saturday. I can't wait.

Everything I have seen from the PQ tells me this is going to be something to behold.

This sounds very promising!

[thefilmstage]

Originally Posted by shesha

Is anyone having playback and feezing issues playing this on a PS3?
I am. The movie took for ever to load and the it locked up on certain chapters.

It didn't even load on my PS3

Worked fine on my other Blu-ray player.

[tavaresbe]

Originally Posted by thefilmstage

It didn't even load on my PS3

Worked fine on my other Blu-ray player.

Is it just my impression or PS3 has always been the most playback problematic player?

[maverick22]

Originally Posted by tavaresbe

Is it just my impression or PS3 has always been the most playback problematic player?

PS3 has been great for me so far ! There has only been one movie (can't think of it now) that skipped a little. I'm not sure if it was a scratched disc (it was a rental) or what. Out of the hundreds I've bought and rented, it has played everything great other than that one movie.

[Snicket]

Disconnecting from the net on the PS3 seems to solve a lot of the problems.

My order shipped from amazon today! With the GB discount it still comes up cheaper than buying it for $22 because of tax.

[shesha]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Disconnecting from the net on the PS3 seems to solve a lot of the problems.

My order shipped from amazon today! With the GB discount it still comes up cheaper than buying it for $22 because of tax.

I'll try disconnecting from the net next time. Fn sucks though !

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by shesha

I'll try disconnecting from the net next time. Fn sucks though !

It does suck, but it helps it to run much smoother. Another fix would be to delete the installed BD data that's on the BD drive on the PS3, I'm not sure how to do it though although its simple to do (I'm told).

I'm dying waiting for the review to go up.

[shesha]

Guys unplugging my ps3 from the Internet made the movie load right away. So I guess it's cool now.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by Snicket

I'm dying waiting for the review to go up.

no joke! I may take a day off work once I get my hands on this blu so I can watch it twice in a row!

[tavaresbe]

Must say I'm a little bit disappointed with the pre-order price...But since I'm dying to get my hands on the Blu (and afraid the slipcover might run out), guess I won't cancel the order...

[keldons]

Originally Posted by Snicket

It does suck, but it helps it to run much smoother. Another fix would be to delete the installed BD data that's on the BD drive on the PS3, I'm not sure how to do it though although its simple to do (I'm told).

Go to Video on the XMB menu bar, go to BD Data Utility at the top, and then delete it. I had to disconnect and clear that data last summer trying to get a rental copy of Green Zone to work for me.