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Old 10-31-2009, 06:32 PM   #1
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I was out last night and came across Criterion's "Howards End". It's one of my favorite films and it was out before the street date...so I bought it. I must say that the Criterion people really know what they are doing. The cinematography in this film is difficult at best...this transfer nails it. Sure there is grain and some shots are soft, but the detail is stunning. This is a film that comes alive with detail. Unexpectedly, the sound, particularly the bursts of orchestration, are clear and (again) detailed. A thrilling presentation of a first-rate film.
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Should have waited. $13 at Barnes and Noble starting November 10.
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Should have waited. $13 at Barnes and Noble starting November 10.
You might want to be checked for dyslexia: the price, according to their website, is 31.99
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:07 PM   #4
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Should have waited. $13 at Barnes and Noble starting November 10.
I'm an impulse buyer. I got it for $20 and had already sold my DVD for $10, so I'm happy.
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You might want to be checked for dyslexia: the price, according to their website, is 31.99
You might want to do a little investigative work before you make annoying, snarky remarks like that.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=119784
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I'm an impulse buyer. I got it for $20 and had already sold my DVD for $10, so I'm happy.
Where did you find it for $20?
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I'm an impulse buyer. I got it for $20 and had already sold my DVD for $10, so I'm happy.
That's weird. What kind of B&M store sells Criterion Blu-Rays for $20?
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You might want to do a little investigative work before you make annoying, snarky remarks like that.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=119784
Gee, I'm so sorry you find my remarks annoying. Next time I'll check with you before I post...wouldn't want to upset you again.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:11 PM   #9
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Where did you find it for $20?
It's a little place in Baltimore that has great prices. I don't want to name names because they break street all the time and don't think that should be publicized.
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Cool. Good find. Glad to hear your thoughts on the transfer, I'm really looking forward to picking this one up soon. It's a beautiful movie but also insanely boring at times, but at $13 how can I say no?
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Cool. Good find. Glad to hear your thoughts on the transfer, I'm really looking forward to picking this one up soon. It's a beautiful movie but also insanely boring at times, but at $13 how can I say no?
I never find it boring...the transfer actually makes the film more enjoyable. $13 is a steal.
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GREAT review over at DVD Beaver:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...nd_blu-ray.htm
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The PCM on the laserdisc was mind-blowing... the orchestration was incredible and the Dolby Digital DVD lost all that depth and realism.

I can't wait for the blu!!!
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Howard's End is a good movie, but IMO A Room with a View is better. I don't want to knock Criterion (too much) because I think we as consumers are lucky for anything they give us, but if you're doing Merchant/Ivory please make it A Room with a View. Thanks.
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I ordered from Amazon, I got it and enjoy it a lot!! however I have a question, in the menu options, does anybody noticed that is not possible to get to the sound set up menu.
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Movie quality is entirely subjective, as I personally consider H.E. to be far superior to the lighter and less substantive Room With A View, though I do enjoy them both.

However, as far as Criterion is concerned, since we *already* have a very nice Blu-ray edition of Room With A View, why not welcome the opportunity Criterion is giving to enjoy another M.I. film on blu-ray? I'd rather have two Mercant/Ivory films on Blu-ray than 2 editions of the same film. Perhaps if the current release of R.W.A.V. had been poor release, but the image is very transparent, and its only regrettable issue that it's got lossy DTS-HD audio versus the optimal DTS-HD MA. I look forward to an eventual release with lossless sound of Room With A View, but I'd rather get Howards End on Blu first.
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Movie quality is entirely subjective, as I personally consider H.E. to be far superior to the lighter and less substantive Room With A View, though I do enjoy them both.

However, as far as Criterion is concerned, since we *already* have a very nice Blu-ray edition of Room With A View, why not welcome the opportunity Criterion is giving to enjoy another M.I. film on blu-ray? I'd rather have two Mercant/Ivory films on Blu-ray than 2 editions of the same film. Perhaps if the current release of R.W.A.V. had been poor release, but the image is very transparent, and its only regrettable issue that it's got lossy DTS-HD audio versus the optimal DTS-HD MA. I look forward to an eventual release with lossless sound of Room With A View, but I'd rather get Howards End on Blu first.
Excellent post, David.

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Movie quality is entirely subjective, as I personally consider H.E. to be far superior to the lighter and less substantive Room With A View, though I do enjoy them both.

However, as far as Criterion is concerned, since we *already* have a very nice Blu-ray edition of Room With A View, why not welcome the opportunity Criterion is giving to enjoy another M.I. film on blu-ray? I'd rather have two Mercant/Ivory films on Blu-ray than 2 editions of the same film. Perhaps if the current release of R.W.A.V. had been poor release, but the image is very transparent, and its only regrettable issue that it's got lossy DTS-HD audio versus the optimal DTS-HD MA. I look forward to an eventual release with lossless sound of Room With A View, but I'd rather get Howards End on Blu first.
You make some good points David, especially about having two movies available instead of just one. And I agree when you say A Room with a View is indeed more whimsical than Howard's End. But that's why I like it. It is Romantic from beginning to end. It's why it works so well as a period piece. While I still enjoyed it, to me Howard's End felt more like a morality play based on a conflict (classism) that doesn't really (or rather, officially) exist any more. That's not to knock it because, like I said, I did enjoy it.
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While I still enjoyed it, to me Howard's End felt more like a morality play based on a conflict (classism) that doesn't really (or rather, officially) exist any more.
I would agree with that also (sounds like what I like about H.E. is what you don't particularly care for. Interesting when diverging opinions actually stem from a common understanding).

I'll never forget the experience of seeing that opening scene in the Art cinema in Phily... as Mrs. Wilcox slowly wanders through her garden and past the lit window with her family playing games inside. Finally I can experience that again with the resolution of Blu!

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I've always loved Howards End and I firmly believe it's Anthony Hopkins' finest screen performance. The Criterion release is a very welcome addition to the Blu-ray catalog.

Now if Sony could release 'The Remains Of The Day' on Blu-ray, that would be marvellous.
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