West Side Story 50th Anniversary Blu-ray 11/15/11 Review up - Page 10 - Blu-ray Forum

whitesheik · 11-09-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Warbler

I looked at both videos and some more videos of the various ld/dvd releases this movies has had. There seems to be a lot difference in the colors in the overture. Some start out in red others start out in like brown or orange color, most good directly to the blue background yet one showed a greenish background briefly. I wonder which is correct?

Correct would be the mambo section of Dance At The Gym being red (not orange, like on this disc - red as in red-hot), and then DISSOLVING into the blue just before the pullback to reveal the title. The little green blip was a mistake and stupid, just as the fade out/in is a mistake and stupid - when I first saw it I wondered if they did the fade out/in to cover up the green mistake.

Warbler · 11-09-2011, 05:39 PM

the blu ray has it the brown/orange color in the overture when it should be red? wow, they really screwed up.

edit: the video on youtube that says it is from the 2011 blu ray the section of the overture in question as red, so I am not sure what whitesheik is talking about.

bookcase · 11-09-2011, 06:34 PM

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Thanks for the video comparisons. It's been a while since I've seen this, so I'm not sure I would've noticed had it not been brought up. Still, it's unforgivable that such oversight would happen on one of the most celebrated musicals of all time. I'll wait for a replacement.

Deciazulado · 11-09-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Warbler

I looked at both videos and some more videos of the various ld/dvd releases this movies has had. There seems to be a lot difference in the colors in the overture.

I kinda liked the multihue one

retablo · 11-09-2011, 06:58 PM

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Simple idiotic mistake? how is not including the 6 track audio a simple idiotic mistake? That is incompetent and careless decision making. And how the hell does the fade in fade out mistake make it all the way through to the disc that is being sold to customers? How come no one realized the problem before the blu ray was mass produced? Doesn't anyone there watch the movie before they begin mass production of the blu rays? How was it not caught?

Because it's a minor thing, perhaps, before the film even starts? I'm not downplaying the significance, but c'mon... very few people in the great realm of things would ever have noticed such a thing. And if you think otherwise, that's crazy.

Instead of needlessly ranting, why not be happy they are actually fixing the fade out thing?

Warbler · 11-09-2011, 08:55 PM

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Because it's a minor thing, perhaps, before the film even starts? I'm not downplaying the significance, but c'mon... very few people in the great realm of things would ever have noticed such a thing. And if you think otherwise, that's crazy.

An expert who really knew the film would have noticed it. A studio like Fox should very easily be able to get such a person to sit down and watch the print before it was released. Fox would so if it truly cared about quality control.

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Instead of needlessly ranting, why not be happy they are actually fixing the fade out thing?

will people who buy the thing be able to exchange the discs? Are they also going to include the 6 track audio which was inexplicably left off the current release of the movie.

number42 · 11-10-2011, 12:37 AM

Walmart has this out early. I picked up the 3 disc version (2 BD + DVD) today for $19.

Despite the issues (which don't bother me that much), it was a good price and I'll just exchange it for a fixed copy if they ever have an exchange program.

Wally Q · 11-10-2011, 12:53 AM

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An expert who really knew the film would have noticed it. A studio like Fox should very easily be able to get such a person to sit down and watch the print before it was released. Fox would so if it truly cared about quality control.

Sure, if it was Fox who supervised the restoration. But all signs point to they didn't, it was MGM. Mistakes happen like this at least on a few titles a year and sometimes they don't get a response. This apparently has been notified and they're working on it. So that's a start but obviously it would cost them more money to pull every single disc they produced to repackage a new one. Buy it and call their customer service when the information is provided.

retablo · 11-10-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Warbler

An expert who really knew the film would have noticed it. A studio like Fox should very easily be able to get such a person to sit down and watch the print before it was released. Fox would so if it truly cared about quality control.

will people who buy the thing be able to exchange the discs? Are they also going to include the 6 track audio which was inexplicably left off the current release of the movie.

Yes, an EXPERT. Film creatives do not run the studios anymore, businessmen do. Which expert do you suggest they hire, to screen EVERY film that comes out? Just not feasible.

And yes, they've already said there will be a disc exchange.

Was this 6 track audio present on the DVD?

Don Corleone · 11-10-2011, 01:06 AM

was it a digibook?

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Originally Posted by number42

Walmart has this out early. I picked up the 3 disc version (2 BD + DVD) today for $19.

Despite the issues (which don't bother me that much), it was a good price and I'll just exchange it for a fixed copy if they ever have an exchange program.

number42 · 11-10-2011, 01:13 AM

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was it a digibook?

No, just a standard 3-disc case with a slipcover.

SAP12690 · 11-10-2011, 01:27 AM

Target is having an exclusive digibook version, only available at target for $16.99

Wally Q · 11-10-2011, 01:28 AM

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Walmart has this out early. I picked up the 3 disc version (2 BD + DVD) today for $19.

I'm convinced Walmart believes they're invincible and above the rules. First COD, then Deathly Hallows, now West Side Story.

Don Corleone · 11-10-2011, 01:46 AM

i didnt see that on the target site, just the UCE version

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Target is having an exclusive digibook version, only available at target for $16.99

SAP12690 · 11-10-2011, 01:56 AM

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i didnt see that on the target site, just the UCE version

Not online yet, I saw it in next weeks ad. I have copies of it at work

Don Corleone · 11-10-2011, 01:59 AM

thanks for letting me know

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Originally Posted by SAP12690

Not online yet, I saw it in next weeks ad. I have copies of it at work

Warbler · 11-10-2011, 03:44 AM

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Yes, an EXPERT. Film creatives do not run the studios anymore, businessmen do. Which expert do you suggest they hire, to screen EVERY film that comes out? Just not feasible.

every film? no. Classics like this one? yes. As for being businessmen, I would think it would be good business to release movies without flaws.

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And yes, they've already said there will be a disc exchange.

before or after Christmas?

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Was this 6 track audio present on the DVD?

doesn't matter. it should be on the blu ray.

whitesheik · 11-10-2011, 05:40 AM

Warbler, I don't know what you're seeing on You Tube, but the color on the Blu-ray is most assuredly more orange than red. I, you see, am not watching it on You Tube, I'm watching the actual disc. I have seen this film too many times not to know what the color is about and the rest of the color in the film proper is perfect.

Warbler · 11-10-2011, 06:25 AM

I don't know. To me, it looks red. Of course, all I can see is what is on youtube. Maybe if I had the actual disc it would look orange. Either way, I accept the fact that it is suppose to look red.

Paulo Elias · 11-10-2011, 09:59 AM

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even though it was pretty much transferred correctly the left-center, right-center channels of sound on 'The Sound of Music' is brilliantly mixed on the bluray - if it's evident on the WSS disc, that's remarkable.

I am sure that you judge it by yourself, but I can assure you that the sound of the 7.1 Blu-Ray track is in the niche of high quality tracks. Apart from a few minor, albeit quite irrelevant, discrepancies in the vocals, as in the "Something's Coming" segment that contains a slightly muffled voice of the singer, all the rest is truly great, the best I have heard so far.

I still have with me a CD that was made from the original audio stems instead of the original Columbia Lp, and it was fairly easy to compare the two tracks sound-wise. It is, in a nutshell, vastly superior to the last DVD release.

It is thus a pity that the same technicians didn't take the opportunity to make amendments to the mixing. As forum user whitesheik first pointed out, the theatrical presentation is not yet fully recovered, and these are important details for home theater hobbyist and film collector.

By the way, as far as I can tell Fox is currently the sole world-wide distributor of all M-G-M titles and it is up to the latter to give them the corrected, restorated, film transfer.

11-09-2011, 05:39 PM	#182
Warbler Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:South Jersey Blu-ray collection:89	the blu ray has it the brown/orange color in the overture when it should be red? wow, they really screwed up. edit: the video on youtube that says it is from the 2011 blu ray the section of the overture in question as red, so I am not sure what whitesheik is talking about. My Mission Statement: Be a good person. Be fair, just and honorable. Follow the golden rule. Show Love, respect and mercy. Last edited by Warbler; 11-09-2011 at 05:42 PM.

11-10-2011, 06:25 AM	#199
Warbler Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:South Jersey Blu-ray collection:89	I don't know. To me, it looks red. Of course, all I can see is what is on youtube. Maybe if I had the actual disc it would look orange. Either way, I accept the fact that it is suppose to look red. My Mission Statement: Be a good person. Be fair, just and honorable. Follow the golden rule. Show Love, respect and mercy. Last edited by Warbler; 11-10-2011 at 03:49 PM.

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11-10-2011, 12:37 AM	#187
number42 Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Blu-ray collection:-	Walmart has this out early. I picked up the 3 disc version (2 BD + DVD) today for $19. Despite the issues (which don't bother me that much), it was a good price and I'll just exchange it for a fixed copy if they ever have an exchange program.

11-10-2011, 01:27 AM	#192
SAP12690 Special Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:595 DVD collection:97 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:13	Target is having an exclusive digibook version, only available at target for $16.99

11-10-2011, 05:40 AM	#198
whitesheik Suspended Member since:Aug 2009	Warbler, I don't know what you're seeing on You Tube, but the color on the Blu-ray is most assuredly more orange than red. I, you see, am not watching it on You Tube, I'm watching the actual disc. I have seen this film too many times not to know what the color is about and the rest of the color in the film proper is perfect.