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Old 10-04-2011, 12:46 PM   #1
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Italy Il Gattopardo di Luchino Visconti

After it came out almost everywhere, The Leopard finally will be published in Italy by Medusa. It will be the restored print from Cineteca di Bologna.

Out: 16/11/2011.

Most likely there will be English Subs.

Amazon.it pre order: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-...7731935&sr=1-3

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Old 10-05-2011, 02:05 PM   #2
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Is this the same print that was used on the French release? Will pick this up if it has English subtitles if so.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:48 AM   #3
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Is this the same print that was used on the French release? Will pick this up if it has English subtitles if so.
Sorry, i don't know.

Here there are the technical specifications:

2 BLU-RAY + BOOK

Region: B
Coding System: AVC/MPEG-4

Disc 1:

- IL GATTOPARDO - FILM NELLA NUOVA VERSIONE RESTAURATA DALLA CINETECA DI BOLOGNA

Extra:

- IL GATTOPARDO RACCONTATO DA GOFFREDO LOMBARDO a cura di LUCIANA MIGLIAVACCA
- IL RECUPERO DEL GATTOPARDO intervista a GIUSEPPE ROTUNNO in occasione del restauro della pellicola del 1991
- IL GATTOPARDO – UN VIAGGIO NELLA MEMORIA
- CINECRONACA
- CINEGIORNALE
- PRESENTAZIONE CINEMATOGRAFICA
- GALLERIE FOTOGRAFICHE

Video Format: 2,55:1/1080p
Audio: LPCM Dual mono 2.0 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English.

Disc 2:

- L’ULTIMO GATTOPARDO di Giuseppe Tornatore (HD)

Extra:

- A proposito de L’ultimo Gattopardo: Guido Lombardo e Giuseppe Tornatore ne parlano con Gian Luca Farinelli

Video Format: 1,85:1/1080p
Audio: DTS-HD Master audio 5.1 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English, French.

Book:

"JE SUIS IL GATTOPARDO" a cura di Francesco Ruggeri

Source: http://www.medusa.it/film/1148/il-gattopardo.shtml

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Old 11-03-2011, 04:45 PM   #4
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Looks great! Is someone going to add this to the database?

Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.it/Gattopardo-Blu-Ray-Libro-Stelvio-Rosi/dp/B005PD0VWY/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1320074410&sr=1-2
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:04 PM   #6
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:57 PM   #7
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No visuals yet?

I really hope the box is not going to look in any way like the pic in the "Medusa" site
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:23 PM   #8
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So, did someone pick this up? If so, it'd be great if he or she could comment on which print they used for this release. :-)
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:01 PM   #9
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I'm pretty sure this is the restoration like the French release. I ordered this and a few other titles from Amazon.it last week that have shipped, so should be able to let you know when it arrives if someone else doesn't post first...
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:27 PM   #10
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I got it last week. It seems to me that it is the same print as the french version which I also own. Only the black levels are way off. I had to turn up the brightness on my projector to get the same result as the french one.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:35 PM   #11
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Thanks to both of you!
@Rob Kwak: Exactly 'how' off are the black levels?
If someone could get around to making some screenshots that'd be absolutely fantastic.

I'm on the fence about buying this release as an alternative to the french one which doesn't have english or german subtitles.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:13 PM   #12
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My brightness levels on my calibrated projector are 50%. I had to raise that to 66% to get an exceptable picture comparable to the french release. Screen shots are difficult for me to make since I don't have a blu-player on my computer.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:19 PM   #13
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I managed to make two screenshots which clearly show the difference after all.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:36 PM   #14
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Thank you very much, Rob! I really appreciate your help. Looks like you're absolutely right...They ended up boasting the colors of the italian release even more. I mean the color timing of the Fox/Pathe release already was very healthy.
If I could ask one more favor...could you please comment on the english subtitles? Are they of good quality?

Again, thanks for your help. ;-)
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:03 AM   #15
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The English subtitles are fine although I didn't see the complete film yet. And I think the boosted colors are mainly to blame because of the deeper blacks. If you raise those the colors desaturate to the same level as the french release. Furthermore I think the framing (1-2:55) is a bit wrong because in the scene where Burt Lancaster and the priest are in the carriage you can in the far left and right side see elements (part of the studio set) which are clearly not intended to be seen. All in all I still think this release is much better than the terrible grainy and soft Criterion/BFI one which I (sigh) also own.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:58 PM   #16
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Hm, now I gotta decide between the french and the italian release. I do speak french but I'd still feel safer with english subtitles. Then again, the Fox/ Pathe release looks better than the italian one and of course the cover of the italian edition is a little bit of a letdown. ...And just as I'm writing this I realise that I'll probably get the french release. ^^
Thanks again!
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:20 PM   #17
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I've watched the first 15 minutes of the italian version. It looks gorgeous. I can not complain about colors or black. At the contrary. I have the JVC X9 and I would rate the picture (from what I've seen!) a small 10, though still a notch below Sound of Music. Much better than the Criterion!
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Disc 2:

- L’ULTIMO GATTOPARDO di Giuseppe Tornatore (HD)

Extra:

- A proposito de L’ultimo Gattopardo: Guido Lombardo e Giuseppe Tornatore ne parlano con Gian Luca Farinelli

Video Format: 1,85:1/1080p
Audio: DTS-HD Master audio 5.1 Italiano
Subtitles: Italiano per non udenti, English, French.
Wow, this has the Tornatore documentary included with English subtitles. I'm tempted to buy it for this alone.

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Much better than the Criterion!
Really I have the Criterion BD and it is gorgeous.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:31 AM   #19
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I received the Italian release today and took some more screen shots. PQ is great IMHO, but I do agree on the black level problem (but I'm not an expert to say it's wrong).












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Old 11-26-2011, 09:48 PM   #20
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I believe this is a kind of "Bram Stokers Dracula" and "Last of the Mohicans" case. Those two titles made many speculate that the black level were "off".

How many make that call watching screenshots? Monitors contrast levels are usually not very reliable. I have a calibrated 24" HP screen. Brightness is 7% to get it close to D65. But contrast is not more than 2-3.000 on such a screen, making it totally unreliable to trust the cinematic experience. The Pioneer Kuro 9 generation has excellent blacks, the X9 has 1:100.000 native and in a dark room, those two movies and Gattopardo looks absolutely stunning.

Last of Mohicans is so dark, that subtitles during nightscenes makes it impossible for the eyes to get accustomed to the darkness, because the light seems so bright. But without, it's like being there. I would say these blu-rays are future proofed and will show more and more of their inherent qualities, as equipment gets better and black levels improve.
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