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Old 05-08-2013, 01:54 PM   #1
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This is a new thread that is dedicated to the films of the obscure Japanese director Masanobu Deme. Please feel free to post your comments or feedback about this virtually unknown director.

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EDIT: In the hopes of explaining the reason for this thread's title and obscurity, I'm quoting a post from a longtime blu-ray forum poster and friend, ElliesDad, which sums it up better than I can...

"It’s kind of an anti-thread. Basically open to ‘whatever’ but gravitating toward classic, art-house, or niche film discussion, anecdotes, and concerns. It’s meant for news-sharing, heads-ups for upcoming quality releases, tips on little-known or under-appreciated gems, discussion on same. It tries to avoid pomposity, discussion of missing slip-covers, nicked corners during shipping, half-second transitional tics in an otherwise fine production, ocd concerns of every stripe, lists, and ‘who’s hotter’ evaluations . It hopes to avoid rants and tirades, incivility, bursts of ego, bad-mouthing (and bad behaviour of every kind, including power-posting and peacocking). Open-mindedness, humor, and congeniality are always welcome."
"Watching Fantasia I understood we could never win the war. These people seem to like complications, I thought to myself." - Yasujirô Ozu

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This is a new thread that is dedicated to the films of the obscure Japanese director Masanobu Deme. Please feel free to post your comments or feedback about this virtually unknown director.

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Shouldn't this belong in this international section? He's also only made one film since 1999.
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So I see someone already posted in here
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Actually moving it to Internation may not be a bad idea, make's it even more obscured from the mainstream
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So what's available on BD in the US of his?
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So what's available on BD in the US of his?
Nothing.

So far as I can tell, none of his movies have even been released on DVD (nor are they likely to be, since there's virtually no interest in them), so I don't see the point of this thread in the blu-ray forum.
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I like the title of the thread. I personally have not seen any of his films.

Any recommendations?

And I thought I was a film snob just knowing Mizoguchi, Yoji Yamada, Kobayashi and Kinugasa .
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I like the title of the thread. I personally have not seen any of his films.

Any recommendations?

And I thought I was a film snob just knowing Mizoguchi, Yoji Yamada, Kobayashi and Kinugasa .
He is not very well known and as made only a handfull of movies since the 1960's so that really does not help much for him.

I am not sure if any of his movies are even available on DVD in Japan
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He is not very well known and as made only a handfull of movies since the 1960's so that really does not help much for him.

I am not sure if any of his movies are even available on DVD in Japan
Thanks Pat. The more obscure, the better.
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Thanks Pat. The more obscure, the better.
Yes even if I am already surprise to have seen some posts made in here, never expected that he was known even that little
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Yes even if I am already surprise to have seen some posts made in here, never expected that he was known even that little
That is twice that I noticed manicsounds comment on an obscure film. On the BFI thread, I remember asking about the release of the brothers Quay's second film The Piano Tuner of Earthquakes and his comment.

By the way Pat, have you seen The Human Condition by Kobayashi? Just wondering your take on the film. I have been on the limb deciding in purchasing it or not?
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Not looking too good Rkish
I guess people didn't understand the message.
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Do you guys think that I should set this up over in the International thread?
"Watching Fantasia I understood we could never win the war. These people seem to like complications, I thought to myself." - Yasujirô Ozu

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I guess people didn't understand the message.
I think you may be right.

Pat...reread your PM.
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Nice digs. Very minimal. Japanesey, even. I'm going to the corner to watch water drip in a bowl and ponder.

But where's the sake?

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Nice digs. Very minimal. Japanesey, even. I'm going to the corner to watch water drip in a bowl and ponder.

But where's the sake?
Takashi Shimura on the swing is in need of some warm sake.

Well if his stomach could tolerate it.
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I think you may be right.

Pat...reread your PM.
What I was meaning was we already had some stalkers
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That is twice that I noticed manicsounds comment on an obscure film. On the BFI thread, I remember asking about the release of the brothers Quay's second film The Piano Tuner of Earthquakes and his comment.

By the way Pat, have you seen The Human Condition by Kobayashi? Just wondering your take on the film. I have been on the limb deciding in purchasing it or not?
Oh I did a long time ago, in college. I saw them in a series of saturdays in college, would have been winter of 1985 I think (28 years already wow). It was movies of course that I was very interested in, I was also reading Marx as well as Kant, Engels and French philosophers. I think we all have this period at one point in our live's (usually college) where we go for these new ideas. The movies while long are interesting but I am unsure how the message now would fit with what I have become, an old fart of sort to much set in his ways The movies are also dark in tone, don't expect anything feel good, it's really sort of brutal in hitting you with it. I would recommend them however, just to be seen since they are treasures in a way of cinema. Not sure I would say to someone to buy them cause they may not be something you might watch again or very often
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Oh I did a long time ago, in college. I saw them in college [in 1985]. I am unsure how the message now would fit with what I have become, an old fart of sort to much set in his ways
I think this is a very crucial distinction people should take into account whenever extolling the virtues of a masterpiece they just saw for the first time an hour ago or dismissing that film altogether. We grow into and out of things more often than we think.

I only caught cinephilia when I was 31, about ten years ago, so I regret that unlike favorite books, poems, paintings, or musical pieces that I discovered at an impressionable age, I won't be able to revisit and reflect on how films I now see as masterpiece *contenders* might have seemed to me at too young an age to maybe "get."

Art can be as much a signpost of our own development as it is that of the artist's as long as we take the time to absorb and reflect.

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