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Old 01-03-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
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They look great and all but why couldn't they use a 1080p/24 resolution for them?
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Because they were never shot in 1080p/24, they were shot in 1080i/50hz so making them 1080p would be pointless.
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Because they were never shot in 1080p/24, they were shot in 1080i/50hz so making them 1080p would be pointless.
Oh I see, so shows like Lost and John Adams were shot in 1080p/24?
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Oh I see, so shows like Lost and John Adams were shot in 1080p/24?
Exactly.

Because the UK standard is PAL for broadcast, 1080i50z is the best option for shooting in. It's the same with all BBC Blu-rays, even Planet Earth, which is regarded as some of the best PQ for Blu-rays.
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Exactly.

Because the UK standard is PAL for broadcast, 1080i50z is the best option for shooting in. It's the same with all BBC Blu-rays, even Planet Earth, which is regarded as some of the best PQ for Blu-rays.
Thanks for clearing it up. The episodes do look stellar, I was just curious.
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Because they were never shot in 1080p/24, they were shot in 1080i/50hz so making them 1080p would be pointless.
To clarify, the fifth and sixth series of Doctor Who were actually shot in 1080p25, but since that's not a format compatible with Blu-ray, the UK Blu-ray discs were encoded at 1080i50... which would be the exact same resolution (just getting the two halves of the full resolution one right after the other) and look as good as the show possibly can on Blu-ray.

The 1080i60 encoding of the US Blu-ray discs does introduce a slight bit of motion blur, but it's so minimal that the majority of viewers wouldn't ever be able to tell the difference... I know I can't!
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I wanted to clarify. Series 5 on Netflix suffers from horrible jerkiness on horizontal pans. I assume this is due to a poor standards conversion for 60hz screens. Does this jerkiness occur on the US Blu-rays at all? I much prefer to have material in its native resolution but my US BD player won't play 1080/50i material, so it looks like the US set for me - if the PQ is OK!
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The Series 5 and 6 complete sets are still 1080i/60 (along with the Series 7, Parts 1 & 2 sets), and I don't notice any excessive jerkiness. As mentioned above, there is some very slight motion blur, but it really is hardly noticeable.

However, the Complete Series 7 set and the Series 1-7 "Remastered" box that came out last year are all converted to 1080p/24, which means no motion blur or other conversion artifacts, but also that the episodes have actually been slowed-down 4%. This was also done to the "Day of the Doctor" and "Time of the Doctor" single releases and most of BBC's releases over the last year or so.

Some don't notice, but I find it extremely distracting. I'd much rather have it interlaced and run at the correct speed, then have it progressive but running slow. Haven't watched the older episodes on Netflix in a while, but "Day" and "Time" look pretty good to me, and they run at the correct speed. Also "Day's" audio has some pretty terrible flanging on the Blu-ray, but on Netflix it sounds just fine.

Like I said, the frame-rate business may or may not be noticeable to you, but it drives me nuts.

Hope that helps!

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I wanted to clarify. Series 5 on Netflix suffers from horrible jerkiness on horizontal pans. I assume this is due to a poor standards conversion for 60hz screens. Does this jerkiness occur on the US Blu-rays at all? I much prefer to have material in its native resolution but my US BD player won't play 1080/50i material, so it looks like the US set for me - if the PQ is OK!
I've had Series 5 since the day it released and never noticed a problem. It got rave reviews for picture quality at the time, even though now those same reviewers act like the 1080p remasters are better for vague and undefined reasons.

If you're really worried about 1080i then the Matt Smith Complete Box Set coming out for $99 in a week or so has everything in 1080p.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I wanted to clarify. Series 5 on Netflix suffers from horrible jerkiness on horizontal pans.!
More likely a Netflix related compression and conversion issues because that isn't on the Blurays. I don't have Netflix, but it's possible that their manipulations exagerrated an issue that was minimal on the BD transfer.

I want to say that the original US Bluray release of Downton Abbey Season 1 had some similar issues. I can't remember if they were corrected in later pressings, but many opted to buy the UK sets to avoid the issue
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So many issues with HD TV shows on Blu-ray - if only they could shoot everything in one magic standard! Thank you for the replies, everyone.
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My 5th season has the jerkiness issue as others have mentioned .
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