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Old 11-30-2011, 01:43 AM   #1
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I did not see a thread for these films, so I decided to start one.

NOTE: According to a statement released by Twilight Time, only 3000 units of each title will be produced, aimed at the collector/classic film aficionado market, and available exclusively online through http://www.screenarchives.com, the nation's largest independent distributor of specialty soundtracks.

Twilight Time will be releasing Rapture on December 13, 2011. Picnic and The Roots of Heaven are scheduled for release on January 17, 2012.

The intent of this thread is for those familiar with these films to discuss their upcoming release and for those unfamiliar with them (like me) to have a place to learn about them.

Please, no rants or ravings about Twilight Time's pricing and limited release business model. Please let's just discuss the films, their place in cinema history, and why they are worth adding to our collections.

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Old 11-30-2011, 02:02 AM   #2
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Limited edition? $29.95 MSRP and available exclusively on one site??!?! Who do these guys think they are??
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Old 11-30-2011, 02:49 AM   #3
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Thanks for the update. I would also like to hear some user comments on the film Rapture set to be released in December by TT. While its been mentioned in previous threads it got lost / drowned out in all the discussion about Fright Night.
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I did not see a thread for these two films, so decided to start one.

NOTE: According to a statement released by Twilight Time, only 3000 units of each title will be produced, aimed at the collector/classic film aficionado market, and available exclusively online through http://www.screenarchives.com, the nation's largest independent distributor of specialty soundtracks.

Picnic and The Roots of Heaven are scheduled for release by Twilight Time in January 2012. The intent of this thread is for those familiar with these films to discuss their upcoming release and for those unfamiliar with them (like me) to have a place to learn about them.

Please, no rants or ravings about Twilight Time's pricing and limited release business model. Please let's just discuss the films, their place in cinema history, and why they are worth adding to our collections.
I'd like to restrict my comments to Picnic (1955) as I am familiar with this movie. I'm surprised this title will not be marketed with a broader base than a restricted 3000 blu-ray copies. So be it.

Based on a successful William Inge play Picnic was performed on Broadway and directed by Joshua Logan in its original production. It does not happen frequently but sometimes, as in the case of Picnic, the original director is offered the chance by Hollywood to recreate their Broadway success up on the BIG screen. In the process some cast changes occurred. Some members of the original Broadway cast portrayed their roles for the movie. William Holden playing against type replaced Ralph Meeker in the leading role of the drifter, Hal Carter. Cliff Robertson took over the role of Alan Benson originated by Paul Newman on Broadway. Newcomer Kim Novak won the role of Madge originated by Janice Rule on Broadway. One of the original CinemaScope 55 with a 4-Track Stereo soundtrack movies produced (exhibited in CinemaScope only) it should if restored with care look and sound fantastic on Blu-Ray. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.

BTW, Joshua Logan was no one hit wonder as a movie director.
Check out his other movies hopefully Blu-Ray bound in the near future:
Mister Roberts (1955)
Picnic (1955) - about to be released to Blu-Ray
Bus Stop (1956)
Sayonara (1957)
South Pacific (1958) - already on Blu-Ray
Fanny (1961)
Ensign Pulver (1964)
Camelot (1967) - being released to Blu-Ray in 2012
and my favorite musical
Paint Your Wagon (1969)

Graduate of Princeton, having delayed his graduation by studying under Konstantin Stanislavski in Russia ("method" acting originated under his guidance and spread worldwide), Joshua Logan was born in 1908 and died at 79 years of age in 1988. Had he spent more time involved in movies instead of his first love - the theatre - he was considered by movie industry insiders to be "another potential John Ford in the making". Picnic is an important movie not to be overlooked.
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:19 AM   #5
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I'm a big fan of Picnic, but I guess I'll have to pass. I already own both the full screen DVD and the widescreen version that came with the great Kim Novak boxset. $29.99 plus shipping is just too much for me.
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Old 11-30-2011, 08:45 AM   #6
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Limited edition? $29.95 MSRP and available exclusively on one site??!?! Who do these guys think they are??
I guess you missed the opening email directly above you that said: "Please, no rants or ravings about Twilight Time's pricing and limited release business model. Please let's just discuss the films, their place in cinema history, and why they are worth adding to our collections."

I don't think $29.95 is too outrageous a price to put on a print run of 3,000 copies. I'm sure if it was American Pie Part 27 or something like that with a 3,000 print run, there would be people climbing over each other to get it. Heck, if it has a slipcover, some would be drooling at the mere thought of it.

And Picnic is a wonderful movie, far superior to many films released today.

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Old 11-30-2011, 10:49 AM   #7
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I'd like to restrict my comments to Picnic (1955) as I am familiar with this movie. I'm surprised this title will not be marketed with a broader base than a restricted 3000 blu-ray copies. So be it.

Based on a successful William Inge play Picnic was performed on Broadway and directed by Joshua Logan in its original production. It does not happen frequently but sometimes, as in the case of Picnic, the original director is offered the chance by Hollywood to recreate their Broadway success up on the BIG screen. In the process some cast changes occurred. Some members of the original Broadway cast portrayed their roles for the movie. William Holden playing against type replaced Ralph Meeker in the leading role of the drifter, Hal Carter. Cliff Robertson took over the role of Alan Benson originated by Paul Newman on Broadway. Newcomer Kim Novak won the role of Madge originated by Janice Rule on Broadway. One of the original CinemaScope 55 with a 4-Track Stereo soundtrack movies produced (exhibited in CinemaScope only) it should if restored with care look and sound fantastic on Blu-Ray. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.

BTW, Joshua Logan was no one hit wonder as a movie director.
Check out his other movies hopefully Blu-Ray bound in the near future:
Mister Roberts (1955)
Picnic (1955) - about to be released to Blu-Ray
Bus Stop (1956)
Sayonara (1957)
South Pacific (1958) - already on Blu-Ray
Fanny (1961)
Ensign Pulver (1964)
Camelot (1967) - being released to Blu-Ray in 2012
and my favorite musical
Paint Your Wagon (1969)

Graduate of Princeton, having delayed his graduation by studying under Konstantin Stanislavski in Russia ("method" acting originated under his guidance and spread worldwide), Joshua Logan was born in 1908 and died at 79 years of age in 1988. Had he spent more time involved in movies instead of his first love - the theatre - he was considered by movie industry insiders to be "another potential John Ford in the making". Picnic is an important movie not to be overlooked.
Great post In2! Thanks. I didn't know this stuff. Saw it about 25 years ago, but I like Picnic....
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:26 PM   #8
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Based on a successful William Inge play Picnic was performed on Broadway and directed by Joshua Logan in its original production. It does not happen frequently but sometimes, as in the case of Picnic, the original director is offered the chance by Hollywood to recreate their Broadway success up on the BIG screen. In the process some cast changes occurred. Some members of the original Broadway cast portrayed their roles for the movie. William Holden playing against type replaced Ralph Meeker in the leading role of the drifter, Hal Carter. Cliff Robertson took over the role of Alan Benson originated by Paul Newman on Broadway. Newcomer Kim Novak won the role of Madge originated by Janice Rule on Broadway. One of the original CinemaScope 55 with a 4-Track Stereo soundtrack movies produced (exhibited in CinemaScope only) it should if restored with care look and sound fantastic on Blu-Ray. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.
When Twilight Time made their January announcement in2video2, it was Roots of Heaven that caught my interest initially, mainly because I missed it during its original theatrical release, and I don't recall it at all on home video. Was there even a Region 1 DVD? Like Rapture, Roots of Heaven will be an entirely new experience for me.

On the other hand, with all the great 50s/60s movies in Blu-ray limbo right now, the Twilight Time release of Picnic (along with the other Kim Novak movies) seemed like an odd choice for TT treatment. Initially, I wasn't even sure I wanted any of those Novak titles that badly (still to come from TT, Pal Joey and Bell, Book, and Candle). But when I read your post, it occurred to me that I'd simply never seen Picnic widescreen, much less in 2.55:1 CinemaScope. Not theatrically, and not on home video. Now it intrigues me much more because, any merits as a film aside (it's one I recall liking a lot, but not loving), it will no doubt 'feel' like a new experience. As you say, transferred from CinemaScope 55 elements, it should be superb quality.
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BTW, Joshua Logan was no one hit wonder as a movie director. Check out his other movies hopefully Blu-Ray bound in the near future:
Mister Roberts (1955)
Picnic (1955) - about to be released to Blu-Ray
Bus Stop (1956)
Sayonara (1957)
South Pacific (1958) - already on Blu-Ray
Fanny (1961)
Ensign Pulver (1964)
Camelot (1967) - being released to Blu-Ray in 2012
and my favorite musical
Paint Your Wagon (1969)
...a nice little reminder that on the whole I've enjoyed the work of Joshua Logan (except for the filter nightmare in South Pacific). He certainly worked well with actors, so there are quite a few of those titles I would welcome seeing on Blu. BTW, where is the queen of widescreen, Marilyn Monroe? She's almost totally MIA on Blu, and Logan's Bus Stop was one of her finest performances.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to get used to checking Twilight's Time's monthly announcements. They've done outstanding work so far, so if they're going after what seem like more obscure catalogue titles, I have increasing faith that they've chosen well in terms of finally getting these movies right on home video.
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Thanks for the update. I would also like to hear some user comments on the film Rapture set to be released in December by TT. While its been mentioned in previous threads it got lost / drowned out in all the discussion about Fright Night.
I pre-ordered Rapture blind arcadeforest. After Twilight Time's out-of-the-gate successes with The Egyptian and Mysterious Island, I'm treating the output of this label as an opportunity to enjoy quality presentations of catalogue titles that likely would not have seen release on Blu-ray any other way...kind of like a 'book of the month' club for home video collectors.

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I guess you missed the opening email directly above you that said: "Please, no rants or ravings about Twilight Time's pricing and limited release business model. Please let's just discuss the films, their place in cinema history, and why they are worth adding to our collections."
It was a joke referencing all of the whining in the Fright Night thread.
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When Twilight Time made their January announcement in2video2, it was Roots of Heaven that caught my interest initially, mainly because I missed it during its original theatrical release, and I don't recall it at all on home video. Was there even a Region 1 DVD? Like Rapture, Roots of Heaven will be an entirely new experience for me.
Both very interesting titles although it's a long time since I saw PICNIC and I don't remember much about it. I have the Spanish DVD of ROOTS OF HEAVEN, which wasn't released on region 1. The transfer is brilliant and no doubt the Blu-ray will look wonderful. It's an interesting, unusual film with great colour photography and a superb cast.
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I will for sure pick up Picnic and will probably grab Roots of Heaven at the same time.
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I pre-ordered Rapture blind arcadeforest. After Twilight Time's out-of-the-gate successes with The Egyptian and Mysterious Island, I'm treating the output of this label as an opportunity to enjoy quality presentations of catalogue titles that likely would not have seen release on Blu-ray any other way...kind of like a 'book of the month' club for home video collectors.
I purchased both The Egyptian and Mysterious Island as well. Very happy with both films. I plan on purchasing releases from Twilight Time with your same approach. I had never seen The Egyptian and to be honest would probably would not have seen that gem if it was not for this company releasing the bluray. I still need to preorder Fright Night but I plan on getting Rapture, Picnic and The Roots of Heaven as well. Also interested in getting The Flim Flam Man from them but its currently only a DVD release, I need to see if a bluray release is coming at some point.
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One of the original CinemaScope 55 with a 4-Track Stereo soundtrack movies produced (exhibited in CinemaScope only) it should if restored with care look and sound fantastic on Blu-Ray. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.
Don't you mean magnetic track CinemaScope (2.55:1) ?

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I've seen Rapture - saw it originally at a sneak preview in LA, where the audience simply did not know what to make of it, and then a few more times when it came out and played for only one week, after which it disappeared completely. I loved Patricia Gozzi back then because I was a huge fan of Sundays and Cybele (and we NEED that on Blu and I happen to know it was slated and may now not be, so if the latter is the case, I do hope TT picks it up instantly), so I really liked the film a lot. John Guillerman says it's his favorite of all his films.

I got an advance check disc of the Blu-ray and it's wonderful - there's really nothing like black and white scope and the photography is stunning. Georges Delerue's score is haunting, and Melvyn Douglas and Dean Stockwell are great. But it's Miss Gozzi who is the heart and soul of the film - simply one of the greatest child actors ever - I think she was thirteen or fourteen during the filming of Rapture - that could not happen in today's PC world - certain things people just don't want to know about today and so no one goes near those topics.

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I think there is room enought in this thread to include discussions of Rapture as well. We are already including it and it may get lost otherwise. I don't recall Rapture having a thread already.

However, I don't see a way for me to alter the thread title.

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  • please change the title to: Rapture (1965), Picnic (1955), and The Roots of Heaven (1958) from Twilight Time.
  • I will change the opening post to show the Rapture picture, and alter the text this evening when I get home from work and have more time.
  • I left the release months out of the title (Dec 2010-Jan 2010) because it may be too long. If there is room for that, please include this; otherwise, it will be corrected in the opening post.
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I think there is room enought in this thread to include discussions of Rapture as well. We are already including it and it may get lost otherwise. I don't recall Rapture having a thread already.

However, I don't see a way for me to alter the thread title.

Mods -
  • please change the title to: Rapture (1965), Picnic (1955), and The Roots of Heaven (1958) from Twilight Time.
  • I will change the opening post to show the Rapture picture, and alter the text this evening when I get home from work and have more time.
  • I left the release months out of the title (Dec 2010-Jan 2010) because it may be too long. If there is room for that, please include this; otherwise, it will be corrected in the opening post.
Thanks for including Rapture. I debated sending you a PM asking if you could do so. It did not have a dedicated thread and with all the Fright Night discussion it got lost. Never seen this and while I'll still pick this up its always interesting to here feedback from members here.
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I've seen Rapture - saw it originally at a sneak preview in LA, where the audience simply did not know what to make of it, and then a few more times when it came out and played for only one week, after which it disappeared completely. I loved Patricia Gozzi back then because I was a huge fan of Sundays and Cybele (and we NEED that on Blu and I happen to know it was slated and may now not be, so if the latter is the case, I do hope TT picks it up instantly), so I really liked the film a lot. John Guillerman says it's his favorite of all his films.

I got an advance check disc of the Blu-ray and it's wonderful - there's really nothing like black and white scope and the photography is stunning. Georges Delerue's score is haunting, and Melvyn Douglas and Dean Stockwell are great. But it's Miss Gozzi who is the heart and soul of the film - simply one of the greatest child actors ever - I think she was thirteen or fourteen during the filming of Rapture - that could not happen in today's PC world - certain things people just don't want to know about today and so no one goes near those topics.

Can you imagine Louis Malle's Pretty Baby being made today? Could not happen.
Thanks for info, looking forward to watching it.
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I purchased both The Egyptian and Mysterious Island as well. Very happy with both films. I plan on purchasing releases from Twilight Time with your same approach. I had never seen The Egyptian and to be honest would probably would not have seen that gem if it was not for this company releasing the bluray. I still need to preorder Fright Night but I plan on getting Rapture, Picnic and The Roots of Heaven as well.
Coincidentally, I just stopped at Best Buy and Future Shop on the way home tonight arcadeforest, and after roaming their Blu-ray aisles for about 15 minutes, left each store with zip, zero, zilch. Same new/recent releases available from all the other big boxes, with very little of interest to catalogue collectors. Even the bargain bins had the same also-ran product. No undervalued gems to discover. I couldn't even spot half the titles in my collection amongst the regular priced Blu's.

I used to get excited as I pulled up to those stores, wondering what half-forgotten treasure I would find this week. But not anymore. What I'm seeking simply isn't there now. In fact, I get more excited by a pre-order going up for these limited TT editions, or some other obscure title I stumble across on Amazon.

So I'm feeling the 'shift' already, and am glad I've started paying attention to these boards.
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