Looks like Shark Night is being released on 3D in the UK

[hotandserious]

I live in Europe and have the UK version pre-ordered, so I'll post if it's region locked or not shortly after it is out.

[DavidGQ]

Originally Posted by mredman

i think he meant amazon UK. So it will be region B or ABC

Originally Posted by hotandserious

I live in Europe and have the UK version pre-ordered, so I'll post it's region locked or not shortly after it is out.

Thanks guys. Didnt see it at the theater so would love to get one if I can watch it

[bigbadwolfe911]

Originally Posted by hotandserious

I live in Europe and have the UK version pre-ordered, so I'll post if it's region locked or not shortly after it is out.

Thanks!

[DMRI2006]

A fair amount of Entertainment in Video's releases are Region B locked (PIRANHA 3-D I remember was) so I would imagine this will be too.

If you're in the US, I'd look into the HK release from DDDHouse which is Region A and is full 3-D (costs about $35 shipped).

[Nommag]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

I think your numbers are off...at least according to Boxofficemojo:

Green Lantern - $219 mil worldwide, $200 mil budget = $19 mil profit
Shark Night - $39 mil worldwide, $25 mil budget = $14 mil profit

The only reason I mentioned it is because you said GL got released even though it was a flop -- and while it was a definite disappointment, it still generated a lot more viewers (and box-office in-take) than Shark Night. How many people saw Green Lantern vs. how many people saw Shark Night? The pool of prospective 3-D BD buyers is likely far higher with GL than it is with Shark Night accordingly.

That said I'd love to see Shark Night in 3-D. I agree with the other poster, if it's not 3-D then it's likely a double-dip, or else the studio doesn't think enough people would be interested.

I read that green lantern lost money because on top of its whopping production cost the marketing fee world wide was over 100mil US that could explain the discrepancies.

[dogofwar]

One thing to keep in mind is that studios do not get 100% of the box office, they actually get between 50-60%. So a film that costs 150 million, needs to make around 300 million before it starts making money.

If GL brought in 219 million worldwide (I'll take your word for it) then the studio probably made between 120-130 million on a 200 million dollar budget. GL needed to make at least 350-400 million worldwide gross before it started making money.

[Blueoktober]

A Christmas Story flopped terrible in theaters. So did Office Space. Wet Hot American Summer. Too many to count. But then home video shot them into cult status (And for A Christmas Story, legendary status). They not only recouped their money on home video, the made an absolute fortune.

Since the print has been finished and since a Blu Ray is already being released...adding the 3D to the package for a few bucks more is going offer the consumer more bang for their buck. Nothing really has to be done except one disc added.

So regardless of how a movie does in a theater, it can, and most of the time does, recoup lost box office on home video and distribution rights.

[Nommag]

Originally Posted by Blueoktober

A Christmas Story flopped terrible in theaters. So did Office Space. Wet Hot American Summer. Too many to count. But then home video shot them into cult status (And for A Christmas Story, legendary status). They not only recouped their money on home video, the made an absolute fortune.

Since the print has been finished and since a Blu Ray is already being released...adding the 3D to the package for a few bucks more is going offer the consumer more bang for their buck. Nothing really has to be done except one disc added.

So regardless of how a movie does in a theater, it can, and most of the time does, recoup lost box office on home video and distribution rights.

So therefore whether it flops in cinemas or not doesn't/shouldn't affect its 3d release. That was my point.

[BigNickUK]

Lets move on!

[keb33509]

What are the chances this may be a Spy Kids 4 3D-Blu situation? In the US the Spy Kids 4 Blu is labeled as Blu-Ray, not Blu-Ray 3D. In the UK it is labeled as Blu-Ray 3D, not Blu-Ray. The same goes for Shark Night in the UK. No standard Blu-Ray option, it only has DVD or Blu-Ray 3D.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Given the box office, it would be weird if it WAS released in B3D over here.

Studios are now getting smart and "snubbing" the B3D releases for the flops.
I was able to find a 3D VOD of Nutcracker in the US, but finding any 3D trace of Cowboys & Aliens looks like a lost hope.

Well seeing how Cowboys and Aliens was never released or shown in 3D in theatres, I would say yeah its a lost hope.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by keb33509

What are the chances this may be a Spy Kids 4 3D-Blu situation? In the US the Spy Kids 4 Blu is labeled as Blu-Ray, not Blu-Ray 3D. In the UK it is labeled as Blu-Ray 3D, not Blu-Ray. The same goes for Shark Night in the UK. No standard Blu-Ray option, it only has DVD or Blu-Ray 3D.

Thats what i was hoping since the original amazon product page when it was first posted said Shark Night 3D, but people who have allready gotten this early have mentioned nothing about 3D being included.

[Madman2112]

Product details
Actors:
Sara Paxton, Dustin Milligan, Chris Carmack, Katharine McPhee, Chris Zylka
Directors: David R. Ellis
Language English
Subtitles: English
Region: Region B/2 (Read more about DVD/Blu-ray formats.)
Number of discs: 1
Classification: To be announced
Studio: Entertainment in Video
DVD Release Date: 23 Jan 2012
Average Customer Review: Be the first to review this item
ASIN: B0064OUG5A

I was looking forward to this one in 3D. Oh well. Once again the US is left out.

[Blueoktober]

Originally Posted by Nommag

So therefore whether it flops in cinemas or not doesn't/shouldn't affect its 3d release. That was my point.

My post wasn't directed towards you.... Sorry I didn't quote, but it was about how studios get 50/60% of gross totals.

[dogofwar]

Originally Posted by Blueoktober

My post wasn't directed towards you.... Sorry I didn't quote, but it was about how studios get 50/60% of gross totals.

Well the point about making money with DVD sales wasn't argued by me, I was pointing out that just because GL made 219 million, the studio didn't get all that. Also your comment:

"So regardless of how a movie does in a theater, it can, and most of the time does, recoup lost box office on home video and distribution rights."

I would like to see some supporting evidence. Films do not "most of the time" recoup their money with DVD sales. You are speculating there and I think given how many film studios are broke and having to take on so many partners to generate capital, that you are probably wrong. There are times when a film finds a second life through DVD and cable but I don't think it happens as much as you think.

Shark Night not getting released in 3D here in the States is nothing more than an attempt to get consumers to double dip, in my opinion.

[Blueoktober]

Originally Posted by dogofwar

Well the point about making money with DVD sales wasn't argued by me, I was pointing out that just because GL made 219 million, the studio didn't get all that. Also your comment:

"So regardless of how a movie does in a theater, it can, and most of the time does, recoup lost box office on home video and distribution rights."

I would like to see some supporting evidence. Films do not "most of the time" recoup their money with DVD sales. You are speculating there and I think given how many film studios are broke and having to take on so many partners to generate capital, that you are probably wrong. There are times when a film finds a second life through DVD and cable but I don't think it happens as much as you think.

Shark Night not getting released in 3D here in the States is nothing more than an attempt to get consumers to double dip, in my opinion.

Wow- defensive much? Google is your friend.

Just to start you off...this is a very good article on the break down of how movies do in theaters and that yes, most DO recoup and make most of their money on TV Licensing deals with Home Video helping as well. Of course things like Pluto Nash and the like, of course not. Seriously now. But on movies like Shark Night, yes, it will make its money back. Double dip? For Shark Night? Really?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5885934/Ho...ios-make-money

[OrlandoEastwood]

Originally Posted by Madman2112

Product details
Actors:
Sara Paxton, Dustin Milligan, Chris Carmack, Katharine McPhee, Chris Zylka
Directors: David R. Ellis
Language English
Subtitles: English
Region: Region B/2 (Read more about DVD/Blu-ray formats.)
Number of discs: 1
Classification: To be announced
Studio: Entertainment in Video
DVD Release Date: 23 Jan 2012
Average Customer Review: Be the first to review this item
ASIN: B0064OUG5A

I was looking forward to this one in 3D. Oh well. Once again the US is left out.

EIV locks their releases, don't get your hopes up.

[Blu-Ray 3D President]

Is this coming out in 3D blu-ray tomorrow?

[keb33509]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray 3D President

Is this coming out in 3D blu-ray tomorrow?

No, 2D blu only.

[dogofwar]

Originally Posted by Blueoktober

Wow- defensive much? Google is your friend.

Just to start you off...this is a very good article on the break down of how movies do in theaters and that yes, most DO recoup and make most of their money on TV Licensing deals with Home Video helping as well. Of course things like Pluto Nash and the like, of course not. Seriously now. But on movies like Shark Night, yes, it will make its money back. Double dip? For Shark Night? Really?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5885934/Ho...ios-make-money

I just responded to a post since you were directly responding to me and I think your information is not accurant. I know how movies make money, your comment was that most movies recoup their money with DVD sales. Most movies do not make profits which is why we have seen movies have 2 or 3 studios behind them. You used to go to a movie and see 24 Century Fox at the beginning, now you see 24 Century Fox in associate with Spy Glass Pictures, in association with Plan B films....you get the point. Most movies do not end up turning a profit and studio need help raising capital to make the film.

Here a little article I think you should read and anyone interested in how films make money.

http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-mone...-be-profitable

"There are some genres of film that do especially well on DVD — like horror films, which are often cheaper to make than other genres to begin with, says Dergarabedian. A horror movie might or might not break even at the theaters, but it's sure to make lots more money when it hits DVD.

But actually, the trend towards studios depending on DVD sales may have peaked already — in 2009, for the first time in a decade, theatrical box office revenue was bigger than home-video revenue, says BoxOfficeAnalysts' Stone."

Things like NetFlix and Red Box along with piracy have cut down profits from DVD sales.

And yes, make us double dip for Shark Night, there are many people who preordered it or will blind buy it tomorrow and in a few months when the 3D version drops, they will buy it again. If only 5 to 10% of consumers do it, its all money to them. There is no other reason for it other than to try an gouge consumers for a few extra bucks. It doesn't cost them anything more to release the film in 3D here in the States like they are doing everywhere else.