Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter 3D (2012)

[mseeley]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Rated R, lots of gory 3D action.

It's opening with the PG rated Brave (Pixar) 3D.

hehe I wonder how it's gonna do. I really want to see both (and in 3D ). I wonder if there's even a chance of these two going neck and neck box-office wise like Prometheus and Madagascar 3 did last weekend?

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by mseeley

hehe I wonder how it's gonna do. I really want to see both (and in 3D ). I wonder if there's even a chance of these two going neck and neck box-office wise like Prometheus and Madagascar 3 did last weekend?

I'll check this one out first, as I also did with Prometheus 3D. It's good they each have their own audience, so I don't think there will be much competition in that regard, but I can see Brave's audience being much larger than a niche horror action film. Generally, those who enjoyed the Underworld and Blade series in theaters, will more than likely check this one out in theaters also.

I hope it lives up to the amount of stylized action standard set by Wanted. I still have to check out Daywatch (the one where the car drives sideways across the building). That's the same guy if I'm not mistaken.

[mseeley]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I'll check this one out first, as I also did with Prometheus 3D. It's good they each have their own audience, so I don't think there will be much competition in that regard, but I can see Brave's audience being much larger than a niche horror action film. Generally, those who enjoyed the Underworld and Blade series in theaters, will more than likely check this one out in theaters also.

I hope it lives up to the amount of stylized action standard set by Wanted. I still have to check out Daywatch (the one where the car drives sideways across the building). That's the same guy if I'm not mistaken.

I'm pretty sure it's the same director as well. I still really want to check out Daywatch and it's sequel

[Zivouhr]

I didn't know he made another after Daywatch. I know they wanted it to be three movies, so I'll take a look.

[Mithrandir-Grey]

I think he means nightwatch and it's sequel daywatch

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by therainberg

The 3D is pretty good for a conversion. I've worked with conversions and I can see the flaws constantly in the best that the format has to offer. I think conversions only work really well with digitally produced paintings, the artist can spend as much time as they desire on sculpting the volume of objects, working on separate layers so you don't get edge distortions ect.

You can take a picture of a persons head, if converted, even by the best artists out there, it will never look as good as what a camera can film in 3D... this is even more so true when it is in motion.

Conversions still can show some nice 3D, but yes, they tend to always have errors to spot here or there, however small.

Abe 3D is in theaters Friday, so I hope the movie has good action and 3D.

[Gae]

Is Abraham Lincoln:Vampire Hunter a conversion? I thought it was shot natively?

Gae

[aaaa6344]

it is confirmed to be a conversion by the director himself, but that trailer still looks really, really good (haven't seen the movie yet).

http://collider.com/timur-bekmambeto...view-2/172598/

[jj5206]

Just got back from seeing this in 3D. First off, I have not read the book so I have no idea how faithful it is, etc. It was a very entertaining movie but did drag on in some parts. I would give it a solid 3/5.

The 3D I had some trouble with. For the first time ever the 3D gave me a headache. There was a lot of fast moving pans and cuts which in my opinion does not transition well to 3D. There were some really cool moments that utilized the 3D well, but for the most part I don't think much of the movie benefited from 3D. Just my opinion.

[mseeley]

I really want to see this in 3D. but I might wait a little bit and save a little more cash first. I might go see it in 2D tomorrow though. The film looks soooo much fun !

[Lovemy3D]

This is another conversion? Darn. In that case it will be a 2D Netfilix rental for me.

[steelerik]

Estimates suggest Brave 25 mill and Abe 6 mill for Friday openings.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I hope it lives up to the amount of stylized action standard set by Wanted. I still have to check out Daywatch (the one where the car drives sideways across the building). That's the same guy if I'm not mistaken.

Quoting this line, it didn't live up to Wanted, even though it was a different movie.

Originally Posted by jj5206

Just got back from seeing this in 3D. First off, I have not read the book so I have no idea how faithful it is, etc. It was a very entertaining movie but did drag on in some parts. I would give it a solid 3/5.

The 3D I had some trouble with. For the first time ever the 3D gave me a headache. There was a lot of fast moving pans and cuts which in my opinion does not transition well to 3D. There were some really cool moments that utilized the 3D well, but for the most part I don't think much of the movie benefited from 3D. Just my opinion.

I really wanted to enjoy the movie, but the storyline and pacing, along with characters with average motivations, didn't really appeal to what I was hoping this movie would be (I wanted more humor, more fun during the action scenes, and less fog). I still liked the lead, Abe (who reminded me of a younger Liam Neeson in his face), but the action, although mostly hard to folllow due to poor editing/cutting, was stylized and slick as Abe spun his axe.

I was hoping for more and better action, but then I kept thinking, "Abe Lincoln doing martial arts..." It was so far out there it was hard to take seriously, and I don't think they wanted us to, despite the serious tone with very little obvious humor. Movie was decent, but forgettable IMO.

The 3D didn't bother my eyes much at all, because it was average to weak to be honest, and mostly disappointing. Some shots looked decent, but it felt pretty flat and boring. Decent at best for the 3D. The FOG really, really washed out the 3D effect, which was already weak to begin with. When they went to clear, sharp, fog free scenery with rich black tones in the color composition, the film looked much better. In this movie, many scenes, the black tones were mostly gray to give you an idea.

Originally Posted by Lovemy3D

This is another conversion? Darn. In that case it will be a 2D Netfilix rental for me.

Yes, a weak to average conversion at best. For recent views, John Carter 3D destroys this in terms of 3D for a hybrid conversion.

Originally Posted by steelerik

Estimates suggest Brave 25 mill and Abe 6 mill for Friday openings.

I wonder how this will hold up...

SPOILER:

[Show spoiler]My biggest complaint? Abe was on a mission killing Vampires who for all we know, did nothing wrong but be vampires. We had no idea why he was killing them other than because he was commanded by his teacher. That flattens all sense of purpose to the fights. "Why is he killing this banker vampire? What is the point of this? Is it practice? Are they in his way? Give us a reason to care. Later on thankfully, we were given a better reason other than 'they took my parents'"

Worth a look for action fans who like the 1800's as the backdrop. Otherwise, rent it.

[Paul H]

The best thing about the movie is the appropriate title: "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter 3D", which really explains what the movie is all about.

Historical places, people, a series of past events involving the economic power struggle for slavery and the behind the scene influences involving social interactions of vampire clan politics. The 3D and some various scenes make the historical events almost realistically palatable.

My most enjoyable time was previewing the "Rise of the Guardians" 3D" trailer.

Paul

[mseeley]

I saw this in 2D today and it was decent I thought. I actually really dug alot of how they integrated the vampires into historical events, sometimes to very clever effect imo. It was kind of hard for me to take the movie seriously though, with Lincoln's Axe-fu and some of the outlandish action and choreography. However, I really dug alot with what they did with Abe as character and thought they gave him alot better character development than I was expecting. Again, some clever subversiveness with his actual history probably contributed to it I also loved his vampire mentor. Thought he was great

I still really want to see it in 3D though. I saw the 3d trailer on youtube last night and I thought the 3D looked amazing and had a ton of of pop! I'll have to see the 3D version eventually though to fully judge

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by mseeley

I saw this in 2D today and it was decent I thought. I actually really dug alot of how they integrated the vampires into historical events, sometimes to very clever effect imo. It was kind of hard for me to take the movie seriously though, with Lincoln's Axe-fu and some of the outlandish action and choreography. However, I really dug alot with what they did with Abe as character and thought they gave him alot better character development than I was expecting. Again, some clever subversiveness with his actual history probably contributed to it I also loved his vampire mentor. Thought he was great

I still really want to see it in 3D though. I saw the 3d trailer on youtube last night and I thought the 3D looked amazing and had a ton of of pop! I'll have to see the 3D version eventually though to fully judge

Good info i was wondering how this movie was ive only seen a 2 minute trailer the whole concept of abe lincoln fighting vamps really got my attention

[Zivouhr]

SLIGHT SPOILERS:
Yes, Abraham and his mentor were both good characters. The wife as well. The main villains were decent and the boss wasn't a pushover thankfully. The historical explanation was different, and it lived up to the concept of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. I think the lacking 3D most of the way might have let me down the most. I was expecting a strong 3D conversion...

During many key action moments, where Abe is swinging his axe just about to slice the vampire, the shot cuts to a close up view, disorienting the flow of what was just about to happen in the shot before it. It doesn't happen too often thankfully, but it hurts the flow of the action as I kept wondering "What just happened there?" When they zoom out, and capture Abe's entire form spinning and slicing, it looks awesome.

This should've been filmed in 3D for sure so they could separate the cameras a lot more for stronger 3D. The conversion pales for 3D. Some 3D moments are worthwhile, but mostly, they didn't push much with the conversion. I flipped my glasses up and the double image didn't look too far apart most of the time. What could've been great, ends up decent for 3D.

[DavidGQ]

Saw this today with a friend and we both enjoy it very much. The 3D is pretty good for a conversion. The movie itself is very entertaining if you're not looking for Oscar type of movie. Great to see how they incorporated real history with vampires.

If you just want to watch an action movie in 3D then this is for you. If you like to critique movies(great acting, making sense, plot holes, etc.), then don't bother.

I mean, would I go see a 3D movie about the life of Abe? Or Abe hunting vampires?

[Jbug]

My wife and I saw this Saturday afternoon. We both liked it very much and thought the 3D was done well.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by DavidGQ

Saw this today with a friend and we both enjoy it very much. The 3D is pretty good for a conversion. The movie itself is very entertaining if you're not looking for Oscar type of movie. Great to see how they incorporated real history with vampires.

If you just want to watch an action movie in 3D then this is for you. If you like to critique movies(great acting, making sense, plot holes, etc.), then don't bother.

I mean, would I go see a 3D movie about the life of Abe? Or Abe hunting vampires?

Originally Posted by Jbug

My wife and I saw this Saturday afternoon. We both liked it very much and thought the 3D was done well.

I'm glad you both had better 3D experiences.

I bet the movie would grow on me if I saw it again, but I can say this much about the 3D at my theater. The Great Gatsby 3D trailer was showing just before Abe 3D came on, and The Great Gatsby 3D set the bar way too high for Abe 3D to ever reach, Abe 3D looking much more conservative with the 3D. The good news was, Abe 3D looks better than Wrath 3D for 3D layers.

I just wish more 3D companies pushed these 2D to 3D conversions A LOT more so they wouldn't get such a deservedly bad reputation. That would of course cost more time and money, so that probably won't happen unless the technology gets so good that it practically converts the film on its own.