Axl Rose - "Thanks but No Thanks" to R&R HOF

[West E]

Chinese Democracy was half brilliant and half filler, but that goes along with the Illusion albums as well.

Slash and Axl are both first class JERKS. I don't see why so many people take sides. They're both very talented writers but they couldn't be any more different. Axl wanted to write punk rock songs and also songs like Estranged and Coma. Those 9 minute tunes. Slash wanted straight ahead rock/metal. I would've been happy with either direction but they couldn't compromise anymore.

Axl's ego is out of control but Slash isn't innocent. Dude ingested more heroin than all of Seattle combined. I can't blame Axl for rejecting the stuff that Slash brought to the table in '94. Those songs became "Slash's Snakepit" which truly sucked.

All in all we shouldn't expect two guys who have sued eachother nonstop to go to any kind of dinner together. They both seem happier today. Slash has his projects, and Axl is still selling out places. Both still sound great tho.

[Waboman]

Gene $immons just needs to buy it already.

Speaking with Rolling Stone, Simmons suggested that the Hall of Fame has cheapened itself by inducting non-rock acts.

"It's become a joke… We've been thinking about it and the answer is simply, 'We'll just buy it and fire everybody'," he quipped.

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news...is-a-joke.html

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by PrivatePixel

.....which is why it doesn't matter whether Axl's name is excluded or not. Being included in the R'nR HOF is in no way a validation of one's career as a musician; in fact, the inverse may be true, when you consider the acts that are still notably absent from this (*ahem*) hallowed establishment. With Jann Wenner's tampering influence being a factor in who's nominated (or isn't), one would think that more musicians haven't thumbed their noses to the HOF when their names do show up (eventually) on the ballot.

Oh I know. I just like to take umbrage at these things. I'm not even a fan of GnR. I'm just commenting on how much of a joke the R&RHOF is. There have been several artists who have thumbed their noses at it, anyone remember what The Sex Pistols wrote? REM apparently refused to support it because Michael Stipe is a Monkees fan.

Jann Wenner is an idiot, and I just love to point that out all the time.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Narcissus

Bands Not In:

T.Rex

[Narcissus]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

T.Rex

Outstanding Selection

these guys would be borderline but Mahogany Rush is really great.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Gene $immons just needs to buy it already.

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news...is-a-joke.html

Hell, I'll donate to a fund to make that happen. Also, Wenner isn't allowed to come within a mile of this building after the sale.

[West E]

I'm not sure why the media is full of "GNR Reunite" articles.

Wasn't that just Velvet Revolver with a couple of guests? LOL

[royfernandez]

Originally Posted by Lemmy Lugosi

No.

Anyway...

I saw Axl and his "traveling band of misfit boys" several weeks back in Detroit at an intimate venue (the Fillmore, a.k.a. the State Theater). Though they are all quite accomplished players, their tendency to "overplay" every single note just kills me. They just HAVE TO show that they are "at least as good as the guy they replaced", if you get my drift.

There is no GnR...it's Axl + employees.

If any of you are looking for a GREAT rock-n-roll read, check out Steven Adler(original GnR drummer)'s book; it's a very raw, honest, often obscene, and a very telling account of their personality conflicts. Oh, and of course, there's plenty of sex and drugs and dirt.

It's an excellent story of rock and roll excess/success.

I just quoted you to say, "AWESOME AVATAR"

Anyway, The HOF ceremony is meaningless and Gn'R fans know he's a jerk whether he shows up or not

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by royfernandez

I just quoted you to say, "AWESOME AVATAR"

Anyway, The HOF ceremony is meaningless and Gn'R fans know he's a jerk whether he shows up or not

Thanks!

[West E]

Originally Posted by royfernandez

Anyway, The HOF ceremony is meaningless and Gn'R fans know he's a jerk whether he shows up or not

Slash and Axl are both jerks. Slash just plays the "nice guy" role better. He's just as bad.

[Strilo]

Originally Posted by West E

I'm not sure why the media is full of "GNR Reunite" articles.

Wasn't that just Velvet Revolver with a couple of guests? LOL

Nope. Guns N'Roses bare minimum has to be Axl and Slash. That's the absolutely minimum for me to accept it as GNR. Really, for me to be satisfied, it would have to be Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and either Matt Sorum or Steven Adler. I am flexible on the drummer. What is touring now is just Axl solo plus some studio musicians.

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by Strilo

Nope. Guns N'Roses bare minimum has to be Axl and Slash. That's the absolutely minimum for me to accept it as GNR. Really, for me to be satisfied, it would have to be Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and either Matt Sorum or Steven Adler. I am flexible on the drummer. What is touring now is just Axl solo plus some studio musicians.

To me it's not Guns N' Roses without Axl, Duff, Izzy, and Slash. That means the 1992 lineup without Izzy was not Guns N' Roses. As soon as Izzy quit during the 1991 tour, Guns N' Roses was officially dead. Adler's drumming was perfect for the band on Appetite For Destruction, but they proved with the Use Your Illusion albums that they could still make some great hard rock songs without him. They never had a chance in hell of creating any new music when Izzy quit. Band's creativity was completely dead when he left. He was the heart and soul of that band. He and Duff were the mediators between Axl and Slash, and Izzy's songwriting contributions were enormous.

If you asked me to rate the solo material that has been put out by each of these guys, it would be Izzy in a landslide. He has put out a ton of great material over the last 20 years. As Duff has said, Izzy is one of the only guys still doing honest, kickass American hard rock. Axl would come in second for solo material. Despite the $15m pricetag and ridiculously overproduced sound, Chinese Democracy was still a more interesting album than the stuff Slash and Duff have come up with.