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Old 08-07-2012, 02:09 AM   #1
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Fear and Desire Blu-ray

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Old 08-07-2012, 02:33 AM   #3
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:01 AM   #4
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There are still a few shorts. Among them is The Seafarers, which is available on DVD.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:08 AM   #5
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Speaking of The Seafarers...this was a March news item.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8415

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Independent distributors Kino Lorber have revealed that they are planning to release on Blu-ray a collection of early films directed by Stanley Kubrick. The collection will include Day of the Fight (1951), The Flying Padre (1951), Fear and Desire (1953), and The Seafarers (1953).

Kino Lorrber have indicated that the release is expected to street in Fall 2012.
I wonder if one or more of the others fell through and if that was the reason for the delay.
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The shorts are good for one viewing at best. Fight and Padre are OK but short, and Seafarers is too long and dull.

Complete Kubrick 13 feature films on BD!
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They could all easily be included as extras. With one feature and 3 shorts it makes sense to focus on the feature.

That said, I have a bad feeling that we're not getting the shorts or at least that we're not getting all 3. Hope I'm wrong though.
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This is exciting. I hope the shorts are included.
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Speaking of The Seafarers...this was a March news item.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8415



I wonder if one or more of the others fell through and if that was the reason for the delay.
It's conceivable the shorts are still on the disc. There'd certainly be room. Though you'd think they would announce that if it were the case...
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:34 AM   #10
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Kinda doubt they're on the disc. Seems to me that if they were, this would be a huge selling/advertising point since it would officially mean that Kubrick's complete filmography is available on blu-ray.
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They could all easily be included as extras. With one feature and 3 shorts it makes sense to focus on the feature.

That said, I have a bad feeling that we're not getting the shorts or at least that we're not getting all 3. Hope I'm wrong though.
Well, for the Criterion release of The Killing, Killer's Kiss (which precedes The Killing) was also included. They are both more than an hour long and have lossless and 192kbps monaural soundtracks, respectively. Given that Fear and Desire is the same length as Killer's Kiss, I couldn't see why the rest of the short films can't be included on the same disc containing Fear and Desire. Here's hoping that we get all of them on one disc!

One question: How did Kino get a hold of these if Kubrick didn't want for them to be released? Wouldn't Christiane Kubrick/kubrick's estate stop the release of these early films?
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Well, for the Criterion release of The Killing, Killer's Kiss (which precedes The Killing) was also included. They are both more than an hour long and have lossless and 192kbps monaural soundtracks, respectively. Given that Fear and Desire is the same length as Killer's Kiss, I couldn't see why the rest of the short films can't be included on the same disc containing Fear and Desire. Here's hoping that we get all of them on one disc!

One question: How did Kino get a hold of these if Kubrick didn't want for them to be released? Wouldn't Christiane Kubrick/kubrick's estate stop the release of these early films?
His estate doesn't control the rights to Fear and Desire as he gave away those rights for financial reasons to get it made and distributed.

They obviously couldn't secure the rights to the 3 shorts hence their exclusion. I mean, do we need the short films? They show little of any of the later style and if you want to see them go to Youtube.

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I am definitely in for this day 1, as the only version I have seen was on youtube. That version was pretty beat up, so it will be nice to revisit.
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I am definitely in for this day 1, as the only version I have seen was on youtube. That version was pretty beat up, so it will be nice to revisit.
+1. The sound was OK but it looked like a third generation VHS dub. This will be uncut and in pristine quality. Way excited, too!
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Good news. I'll definitely pick it up since I'm a huge Kubrick fan, but it'll probably be more of a curiosity. I've tried to watch this in the past, and it was pretty lousy. I don't know if a new restoration will necessarily help.
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Speaking of The Seafarers...this was a March news item.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=8415



I wonder if one or more of the others fell through and if that was the reason for the delay.
From The Digital Bits: "Here's an important note: This Blu-ray will include Kubrick's short subject film The Seafarers as an extra, also restored by The Museum of Modern Art & The Film Foundation and presented in HD."
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Excellent. The shorts are hardly deal breakers but it's nice to see at least one of them is still coming.
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His estate doesn't control the rights to Fear and Desire as he gave away those rights for financial reasons to get it made and distributed.

They obviously couldn't secure the rights to the 3 shorts hence their exclusion. I mean, do we need the short films? They show little of any of the later style and if you want to see them go to Youtube.
The Eastman Archive in NY owns the best known print. They screened it in LA about a year and a half ago.

Fair warning: the most intersting thing about Fear & Desire is that this clunky filmmaker is 3 years from The Killing, 4 from Paths of Glory and 7 from Spartacus.

He comes a VERY long way in a short while. Do not expect to be blown away by anything other than curiosity and a few nice moments.

And of course I'm buying it.
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Excellent. The shorts are hardly deal breakers but it's nice to see at least one of them is still coming.
I will still buy, but if it doesn't end up including all 3 shorts, that sucks. If none of them were included that still had the opportunity of another release for the shorts. If this indeed ends up with only 1 short, the chances of getting the other 2 dramatically decreases and I want all of them.

If they don't release all of them, while this will still be a great release, they will have majorly dropped the ball, imho.

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Excellent. The shorts are hardly deal breakers but it's nice to see at least one of them is still coming.
Agreed. At least the only one that's in color and longer than the others is included, even if it is pretty dull to sit through. Maybe it'll be better in HD!

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