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Old 09-12-2013, 10:28 AM   #281
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My copy was in the mail today. Can't wait to check out the new transfer. Haven't seen the film in a long time. Love the slip cover. Great artwork. Also very nice that (once again) the original poster is available as a cover option, too.
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:20 AM   #282
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The grainier one. I prefer movies to look like they were shot on actual celluloid film instead of digital video.
Transfers from a new / well preserved and barely used negative will not have that much grain. Really grainy transfers occur when the film is not properly stored or exposed many times (say, while making prints or for optical effects work). Also to my mind, the SF transfer looks to have at least some amount of noise mixed in with grain. I'm no expert at this and would be happy to bow down to more informed opinion, but this is my perception from the screenshots I've seen so far.
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #283
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My copy was in the mail today. Can't wait to check out the new transfer. Haven't seen the film in a long time. Love the slip cover. Great artwork. Also very nice that (once again) the original poster is available as a cover option, too.
Pictures please!!!!

Edit: nevermind, I thought this was the Halloween digibook thread... Sigh

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Old 09-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #284
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Transfers from a new / well preserved and barely used negative will not have that much grain. Really grainy transfers occur when the film is not properly stored or exposed many times (say, while making prints or for optical effects work). Also to my mind, the SF transfer looks to have at least some amount of noise mixed in with grain. I'm no expert at this and would be happy to bow down to more informed opinion, but this is my perception from the screenshots I've seen so far.
It's not from a negative though, it's a perfunctory HD transfer from an IP with minimal dirt clean up (the opticals look quite dirty and scratched, as well they should without any digital massaging). A high res scan from the neg will yield an appreciably finer grain structure, but that was never gonna happen with Shout!'s budget. It is what it is.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #285
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looks slightly excessive and for example the dark shot of the caveway (a word I just invented) looks overly sharpened?
Bumping up the contrast tends to create more obvious grain, the same way that over-exposing film tends to make the photo grainier. Shout Factory may have gone too far in that direction, but with the Anchor Bay BD being comparatively under-exposed... well, you've just gotta pick your poison on that one.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:26 PM   #286
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I'm torn on this. Was never in love with the previous edition for reasons stated but this one goes too much in the opposite direction. Too strong of a red/magenta push (look at the sky in the helicopter shots) and too much contrast boosting (see the clipped highs on the silver buttons of Rhodes jacket).

It's hard to tell how far they went. It could likely still be an improvement.
Not that I need much of an excuse to triple dip on this.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:50 PM   #287
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DVD Beaver is comparing the Arrow release to the Shout Factory one. Is the reason that people keep bringing up the Anchor Bay release because it is the same transfer as the Arrow, or is there another comparison somewhere else?

Regardless, I prefer the Shout Factory transfer to the Arrow, which looks like a smudgy mess by comparison.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #288
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It kinda reminds me of the Robocop transfers.

One too dull and pushed to one color, the other too contrast boosted and pushed to another.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:50 PM   #289
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DVD Beaver is comparing the Arrow release to the Shout Factory one. Is the reason that people keep bringing up the Anchor Bay release because it is the same transfer as the Arrow, or is there another comparison somewhere else?

Regardless, I prefer the Shout Factory transfer to the Arrow, which looks like a smudgy mess by comparison.
No, the DVDbeaver review should have compared the Scream BD with the Anchor Bay for a true comparison. The review states however that the Anchor Bay BD is OOP. The Arrow BD is vertically stretched and is inferior to the Anchor Bay, Umbrella and Happinet BD's (imo).
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:02 PM   #290
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DVD Beaver is comparing the Arrow release to the Shout Factory one. Is the reason that people keep bringing up the Anchor Bay release because it is the same transfer as the Arrow, or is there another comparison somewhere else?

Regardless, I prefer the Shout Factory transfer to the Arrow, which looks like a smudgy mess by comparison.
I don't like the heavy cropping on Shout. Missing information on all sides. Shout also has blown whites and newspapers aren't red like on the 4th comparison

Would like to see the JP disc (highest bitrate on old transfer) vs Shout.

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Old 09-12-2013, 07:12 PM   #291
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I don't like the heavy cropping on Shout. Missing information on all sides. Shout also has blown whites and newspapers aren't red like on the 4th comparison
In comparison with the Night of the Living Dead bd, the cropping on this Scream Day bd is pretty mild. It looks to be missing information on three sides, which is noticable, but not a deal breaker to me. I'm curious if this was Shout's doing (and if so, why?) or is it the print they were given. I'm looking forward to getting this next week.
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No, the DVDbeaver review should have compared the Scream BD with the Anchor Bay for a true comparison.
Agreed. I would be most interested in seeing one since I still have the AB disc.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:17 PM   #293
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Mine arrived today without so much of a shipping notice email LOVE IT
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:12 AM   #294
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It kinda reminds me of the Robocop transfers.

One too dull and pushed to one color, the other too contrast boosted and pushed to another.
I get that same feeling looking at those screenshots. The Arrow discs look lifeless, colorless, and dull. And the image looks rather ugly - seems rather greenish in many screenshots.

Yet the Shout disc looks too red in most shots, and the contrast is definitely a bit too high. And I'm not thrilled with the cropping either - the bottom and both sides are cropped a bit. I'd love to know why, but I'm sure there's likely no valid reason.

Overall I'd say from the screenshots it does look like an improvement, because I hate such a dull, dark, lifeless image like the Arrow disc. But I wish the Shout disc didn't have such a red push to it - I think it's obvious the color push is too much, It still looks a lot nicer overall than the Arrow disc, based on the screenshots anyway. At least it won't be vertically stretched or the audio edited. And I'm looking forward to that long documentary, so I'm looking forward to it.
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Maybe Day will be the new Night and we'll end up with 5 more versions in the next few years, lol. (Like Night on dvd)
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It's funny that people are complaining about a red push on the new one, 'cause usually it's the other way around in any number of threads (see the Fugitive discussion for the most recent example).

Heck, the Shout! resembles an old-fashioned transfer in some ways thanks to the boosted contrast and ruddy colour - thankfully there's no DNR or EE - but I'm sure if folks sat down and watched it they could live with it.

Me, I enjoyed the movie more than ever. I always liked Day but thought it was too OTT, even for Romero, but I think I finally got what it was trying to say.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:17 AM   #297
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Watched it last night. While the new transfer does not offer new details or better sharpness, it has better colors. They look much more natural. Thankfully the new transfer is free of any DNR & EE. It looks very film like now. I never had so much fun watching Day of the Dead
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:40 AM   #298
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I get that same feeling looking at those screenshots. The Arrow discs look lifeless, colorless, and dull. And the image looks rather ugly - seems rather greenish in many screenshots.

thats the with a lot of UK releases of older movies. gamma correction is really nice in some cases
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:31 AM   #299
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It's funny that people are complaining about a red push on the new one, 'cause usually it's the other way around in any number of threads (see the Fugitive discussion for the most recent example).

Heck, the Shout! resembles an old-fashioned transfer in some ways thanks to the boosted contrast and ruddy colour - thankfully there's no DNR or EE - but I'm sure if folks sat down and watched it they could live with it.

Me, I enjoyed the movie more than ever. I always liked Day but thought it was too OTT, even for Romero, but I think I finally got what it was trying to say.
Day has always been my favourite. Dawn is great yeah but Day is the best (and the most repeatable too). It always makes me laugh like an idiot - just too many quotable lines in this film and great characters of course.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:39 AM   #300
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Day has always been my favourite. Dawn is great yeah but Day is the best (and the most repeatable too). It always makes me laugh like an idiot - just too many quotable lines in this film and great characters of course.
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