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Old 01-23-2013, 03:50 PM   #1
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The Hoax Blu-ray

The Hoax Blu-ray review

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In 1970, authors Clifford Irving (Richard Gere) and Richard Suskind (Alfred Molina) get together and devise a scheme that they're sure will make them wealthy. After doing extensive research, Irving writes an unauthorized biography of reclusive billionaire Howard Hughes – filled with fictional events.

Using forged documents, he convinces publishing company McGraw-Hill that he has a close relationship with Hughes, and successfully signs a lucrative book deal. Naturally, when the bogus book comes out, experts immediately question its authenticity, but McGraw-Hill stands by Irving. Irving’s plan is carried out so persuasively that even when Hughes momentarily emerges from seclusion to address the media in a telephone news conference and discredits the book, McGraw-Hill continues to support him.


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Old 01-23-2013, 03:55 PM   #2
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I remember I blind bought this DVD when it first came out but I never got around to watching it.

Can anyone recommend it?
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:58 PM   #3
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they already made a movie about Manti te'o?
wow.
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Quote:
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they already made a movie about Manti te'o?
wow.
You beat me to it.
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they already made a movie about Manti te'o?
wow.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:34 AM   #6
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A good movie, a mesmerizing movie, thanks to the acting, to the characterizations. Gere and Molina play off each other’s performances impeccably.
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Originally Posted by iScottie View Post
I remember I blind bought this DVD when it first came out but I never got around to watching it.

Can anyone recommend it?
I blind bought the DVD also when it came out in 07 and can honestly say that was the last time i watched it. A regretful purchase but the movie was just "ok"
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:33 PM   #8
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It makes a good double-bill with Orson Welles' "F For Fake"
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:56 AM   #9
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It makes a good double-bill with Orson Welles' "F For Fake"
Agreed. Kinda hoping this will have a decent transfer, in spite of Echo Bridge.
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Agreed. Kinda hoping this will have a decent transfer, in spite of Echo Bridge.
It looks pretty good IMO.
http://www.criterion.com/my_criterion/5618-brad


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Old 03-23-2013, 03:35 PM   #11
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Just got my copy, and there are some odd encoding options on this disc:

The film:

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Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00004.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:56:08 22,368,430,080  29,213,760,821  25.68   18.00   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3736Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS-HD Master 2.0 2072Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE HOAX
Disc Size:      29,213,760,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00004.MPLS
Length:                 1:56:08.711 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   22,368,430,080 bytes
Total Bitrate:          25.68 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        18000 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3736 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3736 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit / DN -4dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2072 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2072 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00004.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:56:08.711     22,368,430,080  25,679          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:10:04.895     17,043 kbps     35,416 kbps     00:01:22.957    30,033 kbps     00:01:22.582    26,152 kbps     00:02:19.931    88,849 bytes    613,120 bytes   00:09:11.801    
2               0:10:04.895     0:11:44.704     18,996 kbps     31,348 kbps     00:11:30.022    24,476 kbps     00:12:37.798    23,479 kbps     00:20:20.594    99,038 bytes    553,593 bytes   00:11:52.503    
3               0:21:49.599     0:08:18.497     19,428 kbps     28,092 kbps     00:27:21.181    24,939 kbps     00:22:05.949    24,256 kbps     00:22:05.949    101,287 bytes   509,626 bytes   00:29:34.147    
4               0:30:08.097     0:10:48.689     18,554 kbps     30,618 kbps     00:31:41.900    24,405 kbps     00:37:52.979    24,121 kbps     00:37:46.973    96,732 bytes    610,145 bytes   00:31:24.674    
5               0:40:56.787     0:09:40.538     19,917 kbps     34,709 kbps     00:48:29.615    26,419 kbps     00:43:20.139    24,568 kbps     00:48:20.731    103,838 bytes   570,313 bytes   00:48:29.698    
6               0:50:37.325     0:10:05.813     18,180 kbps     29,293 kbps     00:51:02.934    24,150 kbps     00:51:52.359    21,567 kbps     00:55:37.459    94,784 bytes    609,474 bytes   00:51:52.943    
7               1:00:43.139     0:09:44.875     18,017 kbps     31,799 kbps     01:07:40.681    24,294 kbps     01:05:53.074    22,975 kbps     01:05:53.324    93,933 bytes    565,049 bytes   01:04:29.824    
8               1:10:28.015     0:12:19.447     18,631 kbps     33,625 kbps     01:13:35.411    26,254 kbps     01:15:06.835    24,172 kbps     01:21:29.968    97,131 bytes    606,770 bytes   01:11:07.096    
9               1:22:47.462     0:07:25.736     18,469 kbps     41,131 kbps     01:27:24.113    28,434 kbps     01:29:28.237    26,133 kbps     01:29:28.488    96,291 bytes    832,794 bytes   01:29:39.499    
10              1:30:13.199     0:10:35.968     18,124 kbps     29,262 kbps     01:35:53.330    28,289 kbps     01:35:52.705    26,794 kbps     01:35:49.535    94,488 bytes    740,840 bytes   01:35:59.545    
11              1:40:49.168     0:05:48.097     17,927 kbps     33,165 kbps     01:40:50.836    29,230 kbps     01:40:49.168    23,607 kbps     01:40:49.293    93,462 bytes    672,480 bytes   01:43:30.120    
12              1:46:37.265     0:09:31.445     12,476 kbps     37,969 kbps     01:50:40.258    28,291 kbps     01:48:45.268    27,211 kbps     01:48:41.556    65,049 bytes    705,043 bytes   01:49:49.708    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00004.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6968.628                18,000                  15,679,428,808  85,311,817      
00004.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6968.628                3,736                   3,254,484,796   18,775,236      
00004.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6968.628                2,072                   1,805,261,104   10,875,076      
00004.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6968.628                256                     222,999,552     1,306,638


And look at the three video extras:

Deleted Scenes (with optional audio commentary)

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Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00007.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:13:31 2,183,202,816   29,213,760,821  21.53   19.99   DD AC3 2.0 256Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE HOAX
Disc Size:      29,213,760,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00007.MPLS
Length:                 0:13:31.043 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   2,183,202,816 bytes
Total Bitrate:          21.53 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19988 kbps          480i / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00007.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:13:31.043     2,183,202,816   21,535          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:13:31.043     19,988 kbps     43,619 kbps     00:04:57.997    38,590 kbps     00:04:57.030    35,887 kbps     00:13:14.093    83,369 bytes    234,162 bytes   00:04:58.164    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     810.977                 19,990                  2,026,438,910   11,039,501      
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           810.977                 256                     25,954,304      152,076         
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           810.977                 256                     25,954,304      152,076


Outtakes and Unused Scenes

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Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00010.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:19:10 3,051,577,344   29,213,760,821  21.21   20.00   DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE HOAX
Disc Size:      29,213,760,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00010.MPLS
Length:                 0:19:10.949 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   3,051,577,344 bytes
Total Bitrate:          21.21 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        20000 kbps          480i / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00006.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:19:10.949     3,051,577,344   21,211          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:00:13.179     19,995 kbps     22,086 kbps     00:00:04.571    20,819 kbps     00:00:00.700    20,623 kbps     00:00:00.834    83,186 bytes    138,233 bytes   00:00:02.035    
2               0:00:13.179     0:01:13.273     26,441 kbps     37,803 kbps     00:01:19.746    31,696 kbps     00:00:16.716    30,298 kbps     00:00:16.716    110,281 bytes   208,588 bytes   00:01:20.580    
3               0:01:26.453     0:02:12.799     21,485 kbps     32,795 kbps     00:02:13.099    29,656 kbps     00:02:13.099    28,401 kbps     00:02:12.765    89,612 bytes    193,735 bytes   00:02:13.433    
4               0:03:39.252     0:02:09.796     20,206 kbps     39,848 kbps     00:03:40.453    34,192 kbps     00:03:39.919    24,740 kbps     00:03:39.919    84,277 bytes    220,284 bytes   00:03:41.087    
5               0:05:49.048     0:02:44.330     19,866 kbps     27,746 kbps     00:05:51.317    25,007 kbps     00:05:51.184    23,537 kbps     00:05:49.582    82,859 bytes    168,013 bytes   00:08:33.312    
6               0:08:33.379     0:01:20.280     15,988 kbps     26,839 kbps     00:08:34.881    21,056 kbps     00:08:33.379    18,659 kbps     00:08:33.379    66,683 bytes    164,421 bytes   00:08:35.815    
7               0:09:53.659     0:04:04.243     23,370 kbps     43,410 kbps     00:10:30.396    38,392 kbps     00:10:28.227    36,153 kbps     00:10:28.160    97,471 bytes    254,681 bytes   00:10:31.230    
8               0:13:57.903     0:01:35.862     16,571 kbps     31,198 kbps     00:15:31.163    28,020 kbps     00:15:20.286    23,773 kbps     00:15:17.917    69,116 bytes    184,863 bytes   00:15:31.897    
9               0:15:33.766     0:00:41.074     16,057 kbps     19,694 kbps     00:16:02.161    18,285 kbps     00:16:00.526    17,483 kbps     00:15:58.157    66,971 bytes    150,382 bytes   00:16:14.840    
10              0:16:14.840     0:02:56.109     16,116 kbps     41,891 kbps     00:16:49.541    34,130 kbps     00:16:48.374    30,032 kbps     00:16:18.177    67,229 bytes    222,587 bytes   00:16:49.875    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00006.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1150.883                20,001                  2,877,400,972   15,675,216      
00006.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           1150.883                192                     27,623,424      179,840


Stranger Than Fiction

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Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00005.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:09:04 1,447,028,736   29,213,760,821  21.26   20.00   DD AC3 2.0 256Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THE HOAX
Disc Size:      29,213,760,821 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00005.MPLS
Length:                 0:09:04.577 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   1,447,028,736 bytes
Total Bitrate:          21.26 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19999 kbps          480i / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / DN -4dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00005.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:09:04.577     1,447,028,736   21,257          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:09:04.577     19,999 kbps     39,514 kbps     00:05:16.849    37,319 kbps     00:05:14.947    34,818 kbps     00:05:14.013    83,413 bytes    192,480 bytes   00:05:17.483    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00005.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     544.444                 20,004                  1,361,379,405   7,416,225       
00005.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           544.444                 256                     17,427,456      102,114


For some reason, those extras, which are 4:3 standard definition, have been encoded in AVC at about 20 Mbps each, which makes them take up a massive amount of space on the disc. I have a feeling that, had they been encoded more efficiently, the disc could have simply been a BD-25.
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:29 AM   #12
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That is pretty odd.

I watched this about a week ago...looks okay, especially for an Echo Bridge release. The master is strong, but the encode leaves a bit to be desired. The image occasionally degenerates into a mass of macroblocking. Oh well...better than my DVD, even if it doesn't carry over all of the extras. I'm honestly surprised that it carried over as many as it did.
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The Hoax Blu-ray review
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