I got another ignorant person

[bajor27]

I'm speechless really. I've converted so many people to widescreen already. I don't know if my job will ever be done though

[reiella]

Originally Posted by bajor27

I'm speechless really. I've converted so many people to widescreen already. I don't know if my job will ever be done though

It will be when people realize their tvs can do the walking for them most of the time...

[squirrelprophet]

LOL!! I'm in charge of Music and movies at the store I work and I STILl can't believe how many people demand Full Screen- they basically crapped thier pants when they foudn out transformers, Rataouille and Spidey 3 were ONLY in Wide screen- these people are always under the impression that "the People's Heads get cut off!"-- ignorance is bliss- yet so many unhappy people

I had a woman once complain about Disney- who only releases it's animated classics in their original aspect- who mumbled under her breath "Well- I guess they won't be getting any of MY money on THAT movie"-

It's too funny

I know my Mom used to be anti Widescreen- but after having to have stretched out people on her TV- she finally gave in and leanred to appreciate Widescreen- now it's all she buys- even for her full screen TV's

people are inherently stupid- so don't let it get you down

[blu reality]

I don't even notice black bars anymore. If you have a widescreen TV of a decent size, I have a '42 inch, you really don't even notice it.

Although I do notice 4:3 black bars. Weird huh?

[bajor27]

Originally Posted by blu reality

I don't even notice black bars anymore. If you have a widescreen TV of a decent size, I have a '42 inch, you really don't even notice it.

Although I do notice 4:3 black bars. Weird huh?

I don't even notice black bars on a 4:3 tv anymore. When I watch a movie, I watch the movie. I don't watch the screen if you know what I mean

[Maxell]

I have a widescreen tv and prefer widescreen movies. But I also get free cable and have gotten used to black bars on the side. But I hate stretching to fill the screen.

I never liked full screen versions of movies though because I know I'm missing part of the experience (the left and right that are cut off).

[Slackr89]

i think this problem could've been avoided if the companies only produced one type of widescreen 16:9 or w/e instead of the four or so types that exist right now. So instead of different movies using dif aspect ratios, all movies must be in the aspect ratio of (using my ex) 16:9 therefore eliminating the black bars and eliminating customer complaints and making everyone happy . of course this is providing they are not watching a widescreen movie on a full screen tube. well thats just my $0.02, i don't really mind the black bars...after a while you dont seem to notice them anymore, but it sure would be nice if every movie didnt have these black bars so you get the full movie experience left/right AND up/down.

[Hawknelson05]

meh, the 4:3 ind of annoys me with cable. some SD channels I can do a stretch 1080 without it looking absolutely terrible. My tv also has a really cool "wide fit" feature. Takes 4:3 and makes it into 16:9 w/o the stretchy look.

[Fozziwig]

Originally Posted by Slackr89

i think this problem could've been avoided if the companies only produced one type of widescreen 16:9 or w/e instead of the four or so types that exist right now. So instead of different movies using dif aspect ratios, all movies must be in the aspect ratio of (using my ex) 16:9 therefore eliminating the black bars and eliminating customer complaints and making everyone happy . of course this is providing they are not watching a widescreen movie on a full screen tube. well thats just my $0.02, i don't really mind the black bars...after a while you dont seem to notice them anymore, but it sure would be nice if every movie didnt have these black bars so you get the full movie experience left/right AND up/down.

There are no movies in the whole wide world that have black bars (OK, maybe a few - like 'Brainstorm')!

The 'black bars' are only on the TV screen because it it the wrong shape for the movie (or TV show). It would be a crying shame if film directors were forced to shoot 16:9 because that's what shape TV's are.

I really like the look of a 2.35:1 (or 2.40:1) theatrical presentation and am disappointed if it's only 1.85:1. Obviously a lot of directors like that look too.

2007 top 10 (so far):

(Ratios as listed on IMDB)
Spider-Man 3 - 2.35:1
Shrek the Third - 1.85:1
Transformers - 2.35:1
PotC 3 - 2.35:1
HP: OotP - 2.35:1
Bourne Ultimatum - 2.35:1
300 - 2.35:1
Ratatouille - 2.35:1
Simpsons Movie - 2.35:1
Wild Hogs - 2.35:1

So that's 9 out of 10!

So the message from Hollywood to the 'black bar' haters is "Get over it!" - there's lots more to come.

Fortunately TV screens are getting bigger so this is now less of an issue that with old 4:3 screens.

[br85]

Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

If I could show something like that to my customers here (at least the stupid ones who cant grasp this concept), then I might be able to change their minds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEtFcgfonY

I think that is the tcm video that mo is talking about. Show that one to the customers.

[Slackr89]

Originally Posted by Fozziwig

There are no movies in the whole wide world that have black bars (OK, maybe a few - like 'Brainstorm')!

The 'black bars' are only on the TV screen because it it the wrong shape for the movie (or TV show). It would be a crying shame if film directors were forced to shoot 16:9 because that's what shape TV's are.

I really like the look of a 2.35:1 (or 2.40:1) theatrical presentation and am disappointed if it's only 1.85:1. Obviously a lot of directors like that look too.

2007 top 10 (so far):

(Ratios as listed on IMDB)
Spider-Man 3 - 2.35:1
Shrek the Third - 1.85:1
Transformers - 2.35:1
PotC 3 - 2.35:1
HP: OotP - 2.35:1
Bourne Ultimatum - 2.35:1
300 - 2.35:1
Ratatouille - 2.35:1
Simpsons Movie - 2.35:1
Wild Hogs - 2.35:1

So that's 9 out of 10!

So the message from Hollywood to the 'black bar' haters is "Get over it!" - there's lots more to come.

Fortunately TV screens are getting bigger so this is now less of an issue that with old 4:3 screens.

16:9 was just an example. i wasn't sure what aspect ratios was most used for movies. Well in that case all tvs should just be made with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1.

[corduroygt]

Originally Posted by Fozziwig

There are no movies in the whole wide world that have black bars (OK, maybe a few - like 'Brainstorm')!

The 'black bars' are only on the TV screen because it it the wrong shape for the movie (or TV show). It would be a crying shame if film directors were forced to shoot 16:9 because that's what shape TV's are.

I really like the look of a 2.35:1 (or 2.40:1) theatrical presentation and am disappointed if it's only 1.85:1. Obviously a lot of directors like that look too.

2007 top 10 (so far):

(Ratios as listed on IMDB)
Spider-Man 3 - 2.35:1
Shrek the Third - 1.85:1
Transformers - 2.35:1
PotC 3 - 2.35:1
HP: OotP - 2.35:1
Bourne Ultimatum - 2.35:1
300 - 2.35:1
Ratatouille - 2.35:1
Simpsons Movie - 2.35:1
Wild Hogs - 2.35:1

So that's 9 out of 10!

So the message from Hollywood to the 'black bar' haters is "Get over it!" - there's lots more to come.

Fortunately TV screens are getting bigger so this is now less of an issue that with old 4:3 screens.

I like 1.85:1 better since I don't believe every friggin scene in a movie should have the "super wide panorama" aspect ratio. I think 2.35:1 is more optimized for theatre experience, since these days the salons are much wider than they are tall, while 1.85:1 is for home video and 16:9 TV's.

Are there any 2.35:1 movies that are "pan and scaned" to 1.85:1?

[actionhank]

Originally Posted by ramzadel

hey guys this is my first post ever, but I have been reading the posts for half a year now. I was wondering whenever I switch to TNTHD and they are playing a movie sometimes the movie is stretched and looks weird while some other movies look great, why is that?

thats cause the tv or cable box is probably set to "stretch" the picture to fill up your screen when watching sd channels. but when you watch an hd channel it's transmitted in widescreen so by stretching it you lose some part of the image. Just switch your tv or cable box to "normal" whenever you tune in to a HD channel. If you did it right then when you switch back to an SD channel like CNN you should see vertical black bars on the sides.

[mo_jt]

Originally Posted by br85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEtFcgfonY

I think that is the tcm video that mo is talking about. Show that one to the customers.

Thanks Br85--That's exactly the one I was talking about. This is really a great and visual explanation why Widescreen is far superior to fullscreen. Everyone who works in a video store or department should have access to it! .

[DefTechPioElite]

Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

I work at a Hollywood Video and you would not believe how many of my customers with widescreen TVs demand fullscreen copies of movies. They would rather have deformed stretched out pictures than black bars. According to the most recent customer, he likes to get the "full picture," cutting off the sides of a movie and stretching it to fit your screen gets you the "full picture."

That's almost as frustrating as my friend who cranks up the bass all the way so that it ruins the actual sound just because he likes to feel the bass. Is the bass supposed to enhance the sound or ruin it?

Why is it so hard for these people to understand these simple concepts.

these are the same people that think Bose is the best money can buy. In reality, BOSE stands for "Buy Other Speakers Eventually"

[AxlVanHagar]

I direct people that complain about the "black bars o'doom" to this website http://www.widescreen.org/examples.shtml Most people just don't fully understand why they are there to begin with. I actually printed up a bunch of cards with the URL on them so I could hand them out to a customer who was making the complaint about them.

[DealsR4theDevil]

Originally Posted by AxlVanHagar

I direct people that complain about the "black bars o'doom" to this website http://www.widescreen.org/examples.shtml Most people just don't fully understand why they are there to begin with. I actually printed up a bunch of cards with the URL on them so I could hand them out to a customer who was making the complaint about them.

I also run into customers who undertsand what widescreen is but are angry directors dont make movies that fit their screen perfectly and prefer to have a distorted image fit the screen rather than have parts of the screen not be used.

[AxlVanHagar]

Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

I also run into customers who undertsand what widescreen is but are angry directors dont make movies that fit their screen perfectly and prefer to have a distorted image fit the screen rather than have parts of the screen not be used.

Sadly folks like that can't be told anything at all. They have their mind made up to what they prefer. To each their own I guess. With all the storage space available I'm actually kind of surprised studio's aren't including a pan and scan version of the movie along with the OAR version.

[Blu-Generation]

Step 1 - Insert a fullscreen movie in.

Step 2 - A green screen pop up with a text that reads.
"The following film has been formatted from it's "Original" version in order to fit your "TV screen."

Apparently, most people seem to miss step 2. So they live in denial and think fullscreen give them all.

Oh and by the way, I'm the new blu-guy here.
Any reason why I can't make a new thread? Sorry, it's just that it says this message at the moment.

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Am I require to have a specific post count or something.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by AxlVanHagar

Sadly folks like that can't be told anything at all. They have their mind made up to what they prefer. To each their own I guess. With all the storage space available I'm actually kind of surprised studio's aren't including a pan and scan version of the movie along with the OAR version.

Why waste space (that could be used for the OAR movie) on something that shouldn't even be contemplated in the first place? There's already a format for people who prefer pan and scan: it's called VHS.