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Old 06-15-2016, 03:35 PM   #1
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Pre-order links up on Amazon UK, and pages on the site:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157922/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157925/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157926/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157927/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157928/

What do we make of this? SD upscales? Or have the BBC commissioned proper HD restorations? I thought the show was shot on VHS, or was it film?

Curious to see how these turn out.

UPDATE: February 2018...

Individual releases have disappeared and now there's a listing for a Red Dwarf Series 1-8 Blu-ray box set, set for October 1st, 2018.



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Old 06-15-2016, 03:46 PM   #2
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Pre-order links up on Amazon UK, and pages on the site:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157922/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157925/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157926/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157927/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157928/

What do we make of this? SD upscales? Or have the BBC commissioned proper HD restorations? I thought the show was shot on VHS, or was it film?

Curious to see how these turn out.
pretty sure if was filmed on VHS to be honest.

*just checked and IMDB confirms it was shot on video
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Aside from the model work being supposedly shot on 35 mm, they'd have to upscale it.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:04 PM   #4
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Don't own the dvds but I'd definitely buy these if they were about 10 each provided that the episodes look good.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:20 PM   #5
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:O yes please
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Aside from the model work being supposedly shot on 35 mm, they'd have to upscale it.
Yeah but will still look miles better
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Could be tempted to buy series 1 and 2 if they include the documentaries from the bodysnatcher boxset, otherwise I'm happy enough with my DVDs
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Good news. Maybe BBC will consider some other classic TV shows for Blu-ray
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Pre-order links up on Amazon UK, and pages on the site:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157922/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157925/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157926/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157927/

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Red-Dw...lu-ray/157928/

What do we make of this? SD upscales? Or have the BBC commissioned proper HD restorations? I thought the show was shot on VHS, or was it film?

Curious to see how these turn out.
No show has ever been shot on VHS. VHS was merely a format for home viewing use, not a professional recording standard for shooting TV shows.

It was shot using Standard Definition multi-cam video cameras onto 1 inch videotape, as many shows had been since the 1960s. The model work was shot on film, so depending on the masters used for this Blu-ray that could technical be presented in HD, but the rest will just be upscaled SD content.

Considering this is an analogue SD show I really don't see the point of this. Upscaling a more recent show, shot using digital cameras is one thing, but for a show well before DVD even came along...? I don't see the point of it.

I can't help but feel a lot of people will be very disappointed with these releases, expecting full HD only to end up with it looking no better than the DVDs. I hope BBC Worldwide don't get any more bright ideas with these releases, it's just guilt tripping IMO.

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No show has ever been shot on VHS. VHS was merely a format for home viewing use, not a professional recording standard for shooting TV shows.
As VHS stands for Video Home System, Auntie would really have to be saving the pennies to tape shows on VHS. Although I think some shows have used home video equipment for recording, but generally they weren't studio based.

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Considering this is an analogue SD show I really don't see the point of this. Upscaling a more recent show, shot using digital cameras is one thing, but for a show well before DVD even came along...? I don't see the point of it.
It will be all about the compression, if the DVDs were heavily compressed with lossy audio, there's a chance the BDs will be an improvement. But at 25 a pop I don't think you'll be seeing much returns for your investment!
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No show has ever been shot on VHS. VHS was merely a format for home viewing use, not a professional recording standard for shooting TV shows.

It was shot using Standard Definition multi-cam video cameras onto 1 inch videotape, as many shows had been since the 1960s. The model work was shot on film, so depending on the masters used for this Blu-ray that could technical be presented in HD, but the rest will just be upscaled SD content.

Considering this is an analogue SD show I really don't see the point of this. Upscaling a more recent show, shot using digital cameras is one thing, but for a show well before DVD even came along...? I don't see the point of it.

I can't help but feel a lot of people will be very disappointed with these releases, expecting full HD only to end up with it looking no better than the DVDs. I hope BBC Worldwide don't get any more bright ideas with these releases, it's just guilt tripping IMO.
Compression and colour fidelity would be improved.
I thought the other day that the ones on dave looked a little better in places than the dvds
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The early seasons in particular look like arse and ain't nothing gonna change that, but I thought the DVDs were fine all things considered (did an entire rewatch a few months ago).

Very sceptical about these and I'm amazed you're talking them up mike. Just when I thought that this is exactly the sort of thing that usually brings out the hmmms and various droll gifs from yourself, you go and get all exited about it. #bringbackgrouchymike
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The price on these should drop and then after we buy these Zavvi will announce steelbooks for them

Are they going to do the other BBC series of this?
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No show has ever been shot on VHS... ... I hope BBC Worldwide don't get any more bright ideas with these releases, it's just guilt tripping IMO.
Have there been any other shows in the same situation as Red Dwarf and these upscaled blu-rays?
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Have there been any other shows in the same situation as Red Dwarf and these upscaled blu-rays?
There have been a few, but generally I think distributors see transferring SD master tapes to high-definition as a bit of a false economy. I guess one example could be the earlier seasons of The Simpsons, I think they were finished in SD and transferred to HD.

I can't fully remember but I thought there have been a few shows which taped studio footage and were shot on 35mm for exteriors (as the equipment is more versatile) that have made it to Blu-ray. Usually the difference is night-and-day quality wise!
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Love the show but not at 25 a season.

Interested to see what they look like though.

The earlier season would need a Star Trek TNG style restoration though because if I remember right they look bad.
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Love the show but not at 25 a season.

Interested to see what they look like though.

The earlier season would need a Star Trek TNG style restoration though because if I remember right they look bad.
That sort of restoration is impossible due to the source material.
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Well this is a surprise. 25 per season is a joke but I'm sure that will go down over time. And unless the rest are still to be announced, I'm a little disappointed there's only Series 1-5 here. I don't care the least bit about Series 7 or 8 but 6 was one of the best IMO.
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It will be interesting to see what they look like on Bluray, lets hope they don't smeg it up, of course the advantage of having them on Bluray is the discs are more robust in terms of scratches.

As others have said the price at the moment is far too high, hoping it's just a price holder price and it will go down. I recall some of the early seasons were remasted and aired again later on in the 90's, still not hd of course, not sure if they are the same versions already on DVD.
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It will be interesting to see what they look like on Bluray, lets hope they don't smeg it up, of course the advantage of having them on Bluray is the discs are more robust in terms of scratches.

As others have said the price at the moment is far too high, hoping it's just a price holder price and it will go down. I recall some of the early seasons were remasted and aired again later on in the 90's, still not hd of course, not sure if they are the same versions already on DVD.
BDs are more robust for sure but my 14 year old Series 1 DVD is still mint with not a mark on either disc.

FYI Series 1-3 were remastered with new effects in the 90s and were released on DVD in 2007 as 'The Bodysnatcher Collection'

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