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Old 06-16-2016, 06:59 PM   #1
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I was over a friends house watching a movie and was impressed by his sub, which was a Velodyne 1012B. I did some searching when I got home and found a Velodyne VA-1012XII for a very good price in great condition. I currently have a Sony SA-WM40 12" subwoofer which does a pretty good job in my setup. I've listed the specs below, I'm waiting on the Velodyne to arrive via fedex. My receiver has the ability to support 4 subs I believe so I could hook them both up across the room from each other. Was just curious if Velodyne would be a huge improvement over the Sony? I know they are both older units, the Sony is ported and the Velo has a 12" passive radiator...

Sony Specifications
System
Type Active Subwoofer (magnetically shielded design)
Speaker unit
Woofer: 30 cm dia. (12 in.), cone type
Continuous RMS output
Canadian model (0.8%) 120 W
European model (DIN) 120 W
Other models (0.8%) 100 W
Reproduction frequency range
20 Hz – 170 Hz
High frequency cut-off frequency
50 Hz – 170 Hz
Phase selector
NORMAL, REVERSE
Inputs
Input jacks
LINE IN: input pin jack
SPEAKER IN: input terminals
Output jacks
LINE OUT: output pin jack SPEAKER OUT: output terminals
General
Power requirements
Canadian model
120 V AC, 60 Hz European model
220 - 230 V AC, 50/60 Hz
Other models
220 - 240 V AC, 50/60 Hz
Power consumption
90 W
Dimensions
Approx. 360 x 425 x 430 mm (w/h/d) (14 1/4 x 16 3/4 x 17 in.)
Mass 18 kg (36lb 11oz)



Velodyne SPECS VA-1012Xii
Cabinet (inc!. legs): 17.5'x16.S'x16.5'
Frequency Response: 35hz-200hz +/- 3 dB
High Pass Crossover: 80hz or 100hz (6 dB/octave) ....
Low Pass Crossover: 40hz - 120hz (6 dB/octave, 24 dB ultimate).
Amplifier: Class A/B, 100 watts, 250 watts peak ............ ......... .. ..
Woofer: 10" forward firing
Magnet: 55 oz.
Voice Coil: 2"
Passive Radiator: 12" downward firing
Inputs: line-level & speaker·level
Outputs: line-level & speaker·level ..
Warranty One year (parts & labor)
Weight: 58 Ibs. (approx.)
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:23 PM   #2
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I was over a friends house watching a movie and was impressed by his sub, which was a Velodyne 1012B. I did some searching when I got home and found a Velodyne VA-1012XII for a very good price in great condition. I currently have a Sony SA-WM40 12" subwoofer which does a pretty good job in my setup. I've listed the specs below, I'm waiting on the Velodyne to arrive via fedex. My receiver has the ability to support 4 subs I believe so I could hook them both up across the room from each other. Was just curious if Velodyne would be a huge improvement over the Sony? I know they are both older units, the Sony is ported and the Velo has a 12" passive radiator...

Sony Specifications
System
Type Active Subwoofer (magnetically shielded design)
Speaker unit
Woofer: 30 cm dia. (12 in.), cone type
Continuous RMS output
Canadian model (0.8%) 120 W
European model (DIN) 120 W
Other models (0.8%) 100 W
Reproduction frequency range
20 Hz – 170 Hz
High frequency cut-off frequency
50 Hz – 170 Hz
Phase selector
NORMAL, REVERSE
Inputs
Input jacks
LINE IN: input pin jack
SPEAKER IN: input terminals
Output jacks
LINE OUT: output pin jack SPEAKER OUT: output terminals
General
Power requirements
Canadian model
120 V AC, 60 Hz European model
220 - 230 V AC, 50/60 Hz
Other models
220 - 240 V AC, 50/60 Hz
Power consumption
90 W
Dimensions
Approx. 360 x 425 x 430 mm (w/h/d) (14 1/4 x 16 3/4 x 17 in.)
Mass 18 kg (36lb 11oz)



Velodyne SPECS VA-1012Xii
Cabinet (inc!. legs): 17.5'x16.S'x16.5'
Frequency Response: 35hz-200hz +/- 3 dB
High Pass Crossover: 80hz or 100hz (6 dB/octave) ....
Low Pass Crossover: 40hz - 120hz (6 dB/octave, 24 dB ultimate).
Amplifier: Class A/B, 100 watts, 250 watts peak ............ ......... .. ..
Woofer: 10" forward firing
Magnet: 55 oz.
Voice Coil: 2"
Passive Radiator: 12" downward firing
Inputs: line-level & speaker·level
Outputs: line-level & speaker·level ..
Warranty One year (parts & labor)
Weight: 58 Ibs. (approx.)
Hi there.

I've had that sub, and there's another member here who also uses it still in his system. I think it's a pretty good sub, and you should notice a nice improvement over the Sony, if properly set up. I hope you're getting a great deal on it!
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:43 PM   #3
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Hi there.

I've had that sub, and there's another member here who also uses it still in his system. I think it's a pretty good sub, and you should notice a nice improvement over the Sony, if properly set up. I hope you're getting a great deal on it!
Good to hear, looking forward to getting it and setting it up.
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Good to hear, looking forward to getting it and setting it up.


Are you getting it locally?
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Are you getting it locally?
Unfortunately not, found on Ebay, have to wait for FedEx.

I should have looked locally, now I see a 1215Xii for $200 in my city.
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Unfortunately not, found on Ebay, have to wait for FedEx.

I should have looked locally, now I see a 1215Xii for $200 in my city.
How much are you getting the 1012 for?
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how much are you getting the 1012 for?
$185
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$185
Not bad.
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Not bad.
Bought the 1215xii from the local seller, WOW , the bass is
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Good call, and congrats!

I was going to suggest that route, but I figured you had already purchased the 1012 & I didn't want to upset you.

Anyway, congrats again! Now let's see some pics, and don't forget to change your sig.
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Good call, and congrats!

I was going to suggest that route, but I figured you had already purchased the 1012 & I didn't want to upset you.

Anyway, congrats again! Now let's see some pics, and don't forget to change your sig.
It was a hard decision as I did purchase the 1012, will most likely have to resell it when I get it as I have no need for 2 subs. Sig changed and pics definitely coming , thanks!
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It was a hard decision as I did purchase the 1012, will most likely have to resell it when I get it as I have no need for 2 subs. Sig changed and pics definitely coming , thanks!
I hope you're able to get back what you put into it.
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I hope you're able to get back what you put into it.
Well this sucks, the 1012 showed up today I actually really like it , and don't want to part with it. I think I'm going to keep it and use it for the pc. The weird thing is the 10" Velodyne plays louder than the 12", with both set at the same volume level.
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