The Kingdom or Home of the Brave? - Blu-ray Forum

pedigree · 12-31-2007, 06:32 PM

after picking this movie up off bogo thinking it was a shoot em up war movie i was definitely wrong... wondering if anyone else liked this movie and try and compare it to the Kingdom...

miked924 · 12-31-2007, 06:44 PM

Had it from netflix for over a month and still have yet to watch it, didn't think it was an action movie. I liked The Kingdom alot but that's not much of action movie until the end

kakwvu · 12-31-2007, 06:45 PM

I've seen both and I have to say that The Kingdom is far better.

pedigree · 12-31-2007, 06:46 PM

yeah i figured i'd get these types of responses... kingdom was more of a shooter whereas home of the brave was more of a "why war" movie

kakwvu · 12-31-2007, 06:49 PM

The Kingdom was only a shooter movie towards the end. Home of the Brave had its moments of war as well. I prefer The Kingdom. Luckily, I have an HD player as well so I can reluctantly purcahse HD-exclusive movies :\

Mr. Hanky · 12-31-2007, 07:11 PM

I think these are 2 entirely different movies (though, I too, thought Home of the Brave would be more into the "thick of battle" until after I saw it).

Home of the Brave deals with the psychological aftermath a soldier has to deal with when he comes back home, after being exposed to combat. It is a very informative, and I recommend people to see it if you honor our brave military and wish to empathize with the issues that come before them. If you think about it, the hint is right in the title- Home of the Brave. It's about when they come Home, rather than being about in the battle.

Kingdom is about terrorism in Saudi Arabia, not the war in the ME, per se. I also enjoyed this movie quite a bit and would rank it higher than HotB in my "favorites" list (though Jessica Biel is still quite scrumptious in HotB). Kingdom is kind of like a drama/intrigue (CSI meets FBI/ATI) with a terrific action sequence toward the end. It really puts a good overview on the tenuous historic bond between the West, Saudi Arabia, and oil came to be and where it has put us, today. There are some great lines in the movie, as well. Jamie Foxx is great in this movie (he transfers his Miami Vice "Tubbs" role to this role well)! Favorite line from him for me was "Immediate as in right the F now, imediate" in a completely calm, but assertive tone.

Jeremy Pivens also has a good line with, "Hey-uh, guys? Can we turn the boobies down a few notches here?" He has an entertaining character in this movie, when he makes his brief appearances.

The ending remarks in the movie were brilliant!

Sound quality was strong in some places but a bit spotty in others. That would be my biggest complaint with the movie, even though I really do like it.

katharsis · 12-31-2007, 07:19 PM

I have yet to see the Kingdom, but so far only heard good news about it.
Watched Home of the Brave the other day and actually turned it off little more than half way through... one of the worst I've seen in a while! The action scenes were alright, nothing new here, however the dialogue was horrible! A lot of one liners and definitely not the way war vets would be talking to each other... big disappointment and I am glad I only rented it from Netflix!

dperrone · 12-31-2007, 07:20 PM

The Kingdom was great (IMO), I can't comment on the other movie.

pedigree · 12-31-2007, 07:20 PM

lol i wouldnt say it was the worssttttttttttt

but seriously... it was a little whack... why make jessica biel an amputee? i know it happens in war and whatever but not to her man... shes too fine

Mr. Hanky · 12-31-2007, 07:25 PM

Well, doesn't that make you feel that much more sorry for her?...the "beauty queen" of the cast, mangled with this terrible injury?

pedigree · 12-31-2007, 07:26 PM

i guess you have a point...
and on another note... i found samuel jackson's performance to be really good considering some of the stupid stuff he's done in the last while

dialog_gvf · 12-31-2007, 07:27 PM

Isn't The Kingdom from Universal?

dperrone · 12-31-2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pedigree

i guess you have a point...
and on another note... i found samuel jackson's performance to be really good considering some of the stupid stuff he's done in the last while

what are you talking about, stupid stuff? I hope you are not talking about Snakes on a Plane? He should have won an Oscar !! LOL

OokieSpookie · 12-31-2007, 07:31 PM

Why are we discussing this crap in the blu ray release forum?

halon · 12-31-2007, 07:38 PM

home of the brave is HORRIBLE!

i can barely stand 50 rapping let alone acting.

sj001 · 12-31-2007, 07:39 PM

The Kingdom is HD-DVD only/Universal.

Sonny · 12-31-2007, 07:53 PM

I saw the kingdom for free at the theater & was disappoint but it was OK. I have Home of the Brave on Blu-ray & have watched it 3 times. I guess feeling in real life how the actors portray 'feelings' in the film has alot to do with it . If you haven't been there then you don't know.

howarmat · 12-31-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky

I think these are 2 entirely different movies (though, I too, thought Home of the Brave would be more into the "thick of battle" until after I saw it).

Home of the Brave deals with the psychological aftermath a soldier has to deal with when he comes back home, after being exposed to combat. It is a very informative, and I recommend people to see it if you honor our brave military and wish to empathize with the issues that come before them. If you think about it, the hint is right in the title- Home of the Brave. It's about when they come Home, rather than being about in the battle.

Kingdom is about terrorism in Saudi Arabia, not the war in the ME, per se. I also enjoyed this movie quite a bit and would rank it higher than HotB in my "favorites" list (though Jessica Biel is still quite scrumptious in HotB). Kingdom is kind of like a drama/intrigue (CSI meets FBI/ATI) with a terrific action sequence toward the end. It really puts a good overview on the tenuous historic bond between the West, Saudi Arabia, and oil came to be and where it has put us, today. There are some great lines in the movie, as well. Jamie Foxx is great in this movie (he transfers his Miami Vice "Tubbs" role to this role well)! Favorite line from him for me was "Immediate as in right the F now, imediate" in a completely calm, but assertive tone.

Jeremy Pivens also has a good line with, "Hey-uh, guys? Can we turn the boobies down a few notches here?" He has an entertaining character in this movie, when he makes his brief appearances.

The ending remarks in the movie were brilliant!

Sound quality was strong in some places but a bit spotty in others. That would be my biggest complaint with the movie, even though I really do like it.

Took the words outta my mouth

Mr. Hanky · 12-31-2007, 08:28 PM

Thanks!

You know in the supplementary material for TK, the director was saying they were acting and shooting these scenes in 115-130 deg heat. That's pretty friggin' amazing!

Geech · 12-31-2007, 09:00 PM

The last half hour of "The Kingdom" is sweet

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12-31-2007, 06:32 PM	#1
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	The Kingdom or Home of the Brave? after picking this movie up off bogo thinking it was a shoot em up war movie i was definitely wrong... wondering if anyone else liked this movie and try and compare it to the Kingdom... Samsung 32" LCD Flatscreen LN-T3242H \| PS3 60G ridge racer 7 - time crisis 4 - marvel ultimate alliance - call of duty 4 - orange box - guitar hero III Blu-ray: 93 collection \| DVD: 199 collection \| PSN ID: coletti

12-31-2007, 06:46 PM	#4
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	yeah i figured i'd get these types of responses... kingdom was more of a shooter whereas home of the brave was more of a "why war" movie Samsung 32" LCD Flatscreen LN-T3242H \| PS3 60G ridge racer 7 - time crisis 4 - marvel ultimate alliance - call of duty 4 - orange box - guitar hero III Blu-ray: 93 collection \| DVD: 199 collection \| PSN ID: coletti

12-31-2007, 07:11 PM	#6
Mr. Hanky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	I think these are 2 entirely different movies (though, I too, thought Home of the Brave would be more into the "thick of battle" until after I saw it). Home of the Brave deals with the psychological aftermath a soldier has to deal with when he comes back home, after being exposed to combat. It is a very informative, and I recommend people to see it if you honor our brave military and wish to empathize with the issues that come before them. If you think about it, the hint is right in the title- *Home* of the Brave. It's about when they come Home, rather than being about in the battle. Kingdom is about terrorism in Saudi Arabia, not the war in the ME, per se. I also enjoyed this movie quite a bit and would rank it higher than HotB in my "favorites" list (though Jessica Biel is still quite scrumptious in HotB). Kingdom is kind of like a drama/intrigue (CSI meets FBI/ATI) with a terrific action sequence toward the end. It really puts a good overview on the tenuous historic bond between the West, Saudi Arabia, and oil came to be and where it has put us, today. There are some great lines in the movie, as well. Jamie Foxx is great in this movie (he transfers his Miami Vice "Tubbs" role to this role well)! Favorite line from him for me was "Immediate as in right the F now, imediate" in a completely calm, but assertive tone. Jeremy Pivens also has a good line with, "Hey-uh, guys? Can we turn the boobies down a few notches here?" He has an entertaining character in this movie, when he makes his brief appearances. The ending remarks in the movie were brilliant! Sound quality was strong in some places but a bit spotty in others. That would be my biggest complaint with the movie, even though I really do like it. 1st Fri in January is now Blu-Friday!

12-31-2007, 07:19 PM	#7
katharsis Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:SoCal Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:355 PS3 collection:21 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	I have yet to see the Kingdom, but so far only heard good news about it. Watched Home of the Brave the other day and actually turned it off little more than half way through... one of the worst I've seen in a while! The action scenes were alright, nothing new here, however the dialogue was horrible! A lot of one liners and definitely not the way war vets would be talking to each other... big disappointment and I am glad I only rented it from Netflix! Life is just a form of animated death.

12-31-2007, 06:44 PM	#2
miked924 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Queens, NY Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:558 DVD collection:21 PS3 collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:1	Had it from netflix for over a month and still have yet to watch it, didn't think it was an action movie. I liked The Kingdom alot but that's not much of action movie until the end

12-31-2007, 06:45 PM	#3
kakwvu Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:1	I've seen both and I have to say that The Kingdom is far better.

12-31-2007, 06:49 PM	#5
kakwvu Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:1	The Kingdom was only a shooter movie towards the end. Home of the Brave had its moments of war as well. I prefer The Kingdom. Luckily, I have an HD player as well so I can reluctantly purcahse HD-exclusive movies :\

12-31-2007, 07:20 PM	#8
dperrone Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Orlando, Florida	The Kingdom was great (IMO), I can't comment on the other movie.

12-31-2007, 07:25 PM	#10
Mr. Hanky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	Well, doesn't that make you feel that much more sorry for her?...the "beauty queen" of the cast, mangled with this terrible injury? 1st Fri in January is now Blu-Friday!

12-31-2007, 07:26 PM	#11
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	i guess you have a point... and on another note... i found samuel jackson's performance to be really good considering some of the stupid stuff he's done in the last while Samsung 32" LCD Flatscreen LN-T3242H \| PS3 60G ridge racer 7 - time crisis 4 - marvel ultimate alliance - call of duty 4 - orange box - guitar hero III Blu-ray: 93 collection \| DVD: 199 collection \| PSN ID: coletti

12-31-2007, 07:27 PM	#12
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	Isn't The Kingdom from Universal?

12-31-2007, 07:31 PM	#14
OokieSpookie Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	Why are we discussing this crap in the blu ray release forum?

12-31-2007, 07:38 PM	#15
halon Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Pennsylvania Blu-ray reviews:4	home of the brave is HORRIBLE! i can barely stand 50 rapping let alone acting. Sony 46Z4100B PS3 320gb Samsung Galaxy Nexus

12-31-2007, 07:39 PM	#16
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:5	The Kingdom is HD-DVD only/Universal. SCEPTRE X32GV-Komodo 32" LCD/HDTV PS3 280GB; Onkyo 605SR-TX605 Klipsch Quintet II 5.1 Speakers & KSW-10 Sub My Collection http://www.invelos.com/DVDCollection.aspx/toddone1 "January 4th, 2008, the day that WB went Blu, that day that Blu-ray won the Hi-Def format war!"

12-31-2007, 07:53 PM	#17
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	I saw the kingdom for free at the theater & was disappoint but it was OK. I have Home of the Brave on Blu-ray & have watched it 3 times. I guess feeling in real life how the actors portray 'feelings' in the film has alot to do with it . If you haven't been there then you don't know. Pioneer 9G Kuro's 5020 with Elite board swap, KRP500m, Elite 111, Elite 151. Onkyo 706, Polk TSi 5.1 all the way around & 10" sub. Pioneer BD player & Panasonic BD player along with three PS3's, all original 60gig units. 2x Harmony 1100 & 1 Harmony 1000 touch screen remotes. About 1,000 Blu-rays... My Brother R.I.P. Sep 9, 1980 - (killed) July 23, 2008"Dream as if you will live forever, Live as if you will die today" Last edited by Sonny; 12-31-2007 at 07:58 PM.

12-31-2007, 08:28 PM	#19
Mr. Hanky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	Thanks! You know in the supplementary material for TK, the director was saying they were acting and shooting these scenes in 115-130 deg heat. That's pretty friggin' amazing! 1st Fri in January is now Blu-Friday! Last edited by Mr. Hanky; 12-31-2007 at 08:43 PM.

12-31-2007, 09:00 PM	#20
Geech Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reading, PA Blu-ray reviews:2	The last half hour of "The Kingdom" is sweet 32" SAMSUNG 720p/1080i PS3 80 GB W/ 8 PS3 Games 57 Blu-Rays 373 SD-DVDs

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