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Old 07-03-2017, 07:46 PM   #1
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Default Crying Freeman (1995) Turbine Medien

Turbine Medien will release CF in 4 limited MBs on 01/09/2017.

Cover A (1500 pieces):


Cover B (500 pieces):


Cover C (1000 pieces):


Cover D (1000 pieces):


Technical specs:

Audio:
German Dolby Digital 2.0
German Dolby Digital 5.1
German DTS HD 2.0
German DTS HD 5.1
English Dolby Digital 2.0
English Dolby Digital 5.1
English DTS HD 2.0
English DTS HD 5.1

Video:
BD 2,35 (1080p)
DVD 2,35 (16:9 Anamorphic)

Subtitles:
German / German for japanese dialogues
English / English for japanese dialogues

Runtime:
BD 101 / DVD 97 (uncut)

Region:
B / 2

Bonus features:

* Audiocommentary by director Christophe Gans (x)
* Retrospective interviews with Christophe Gans and Mark Dacascos (x)
* Interviews with Christoph Gans about origin, equipment and storyboards (x)
* Two deleted scenes
* Featurette about the editing (x)
* Making of featurettes (x)
* Behind the scenes
* Promo featurettes (x)
* Teaser & trailer
* Booklet by Christoph N. Kellerbach

(x) = In french and/or english language with optional german subtitles
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:38 AM   #2
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Nice. A couple of those look really awesome. I may consider getting one to replace my French steelbook copy since it doesn't have any English subtitles for the Japanese dialog.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:30 AM   #3
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Very very nice. Cover A is the best, IMHO.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:26 AM   #4
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Preorder at dtm.at:

http://shop.dtm.at/advanced_search_r...eman&x=28&y=10
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:31 AM   #5
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The french version looks great. Will this also use the lastest Turbine DNR washing like american werewolf in Paris? It's like Krekle all over Had higher hopes for Turbine after the great Death Machine

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Old 07-04-2017, 01:00 PM   #6
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK Turbine does not apply their own DNR.
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:09 PM   #7
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK Turbine does not apply their own DNR.
A well respected company would say no thanks to some masters then instead of customers finding out after buying but maybe that's just me not accepting below average picture quality in 2017.
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Old 07-04-2017, 05:39 PM   #8
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AAWIP is not a Turbine transfer. DEATH MACHINE is. It's not always a question if we'd like to do something when we can't (e.g. access materials). Sometimes the material you want to access is in a storage facility and you have to pay for the last three decades of storage to access it.

Still, this is a very solid transfer which is approved by the director.

We even swapped out all the German titles (added for use of the master for streaming) and re-inserted the original elements.

EDIT: TheHutt is correct. We don't apply DNR to video masters, but we also don't regrain, except when inserting materials (e.g. deleted scenes found on a print or from older video masters, in which case we try to match them to the rest of the film).

You can judge from our upcoming release of SCHLOCK where we, with the supervision of John Landis, had a new 4k scan done in Germany (by the great guys from LSP). It was quite an effort to pull the negative from the Academy (you know, the Oscars). We needed a final word from John to have it (the OCN) shipped to Germany.

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Nice to hear. Just wondering, so you bought the rights for a german streaming version with already added german titles and put that on blu-ray? Hopefully it is close to the original elements and quality that was used on the french blu-ray.

Kudos for fixing the german titles though for all of us non german importers Will look forward to reviews. Any webs gets early reviewsamples?
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:19 AM   #10
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I was referring to An American Werewolf In London (AAWIP). This was to outline where the focus has shifted (from the licensors' point of view). We weren't aware of the changes, but since we do thorough checks on deliveries, we noticed the alterations and ordered replacement elements.

I am sure everyone will be happy with the transfer for Crying Freeman. As of today the film is still banned in Germany (we're working on getting it unbanned), so there can't be any reviews in Germany.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:26 AM   #11
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Might get this instead of the French steelbook just for the subtitled Japanese dialog.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:48 AM   #12
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As of today the film is still banned in Germany (we're working on getting it unbanned), so there can't be any reviews in Germany.
CRYING FREEMAN is NOT banned in Germany. Since 2007 the movie is on the index for titles liable to currupt the youth, which means it may only be sold to adults (at least in its uncut form) and advertising for it is prohibited. But besindes these restrictions it is totally legal to release, sell and buy CRYING FREEMAN in Germany.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:34 AM   #13
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There are two kinds of film bans in Germany. One is the putting it on the "index of materials harmful for youths" meaning a movie cannot be openly sold, promoted, shown on TV in this version. The second one is an outright prohibition by a court of law which forbids it for a movie to be sold or shown to public at all.

"Crying Freeman" is the first category, which is actually ridiculous. And that's why it won't be available on German amazon (unless the ban is lifted).
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:06 AM   #14
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CRYING FREEMAN is NOT banned in Germany. Since 2007 the movie is on the index for titles liable to currupt the youth, which means it may only be sold to adults (at least in its uncut form) and advertising for it is prohibited. But besindes these restrictions it is totally legal to release, sell and buy CRYING FREEMAN in Germany.
Read the law, young padawan. Yes, it's banned. No, it's not confiscated. So yes, we CAN sell it through legitimate channels, but absolutely no advertising in any German media (these servers aren't in Germany, so...). There were magazines recalled for reviewing banned titles.

So again, it's banned, but not confiscated.

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"Crying Freeman" is the first category, which is actually ridiculous.
Yes, it is. We had a hard time identifying anything that might fall into the category for a ban.
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:53 AM   #15
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It actually took 12 years for BPjM to ban it. In the meantime it was shown uncut on TV, for Pete's sake.
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I was referring to An American Werewolf In London (AAWIP). This was to outline where the focus has shifted (from the licensors' point of view). We weren't aware of the changes, but since we do thorough checks on deliveries, we noticed the alterations and ordered replacement elements.

I am sure everyone will be happy with the transfer for Crying Freeman. As of today the film is still banned in Germany (we're working on getting it unbanned), so there can't be any reviews in Germany.
Well you can always use some bigger fish for reviews like digital bits, dvdbeaver, http://www.dvdbeaver.com/ och even blu-ray.com Then you wouldn't have to worry about german press right.

Just sell it through austrian channels like everybody else that needs to circumvent the censorships.
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Read the law, young padawan. Yes, it's banned. No, it's not confiscated. So yes, we CAN sell it through legitimate channels, but absolutely no advertising in any German media (these servers aren't in Germany, so...). There were magazines recalled for reviewing banned titles.

So again, it's banned, but not confiscated.
Indexing is NOT a ban. A ban means the movie is ILLEGAL and NOBODY is allowed to see it. CRYING FREEMAN is not illegal in Germany. It is only is subjected to certain distribution restrictions (no advertising, no open sale on online platforms and no shipping without making sure that the delivery is only handed to adult customers) so that people under 18 are not made aware of it and are not able to rent or buy it.
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Well you can always use some bigger fish for reviews like digital bits, dvdbeaver, http://www.dvdbeaver.com/ och even blu-ray.com Then you wouldn't have to worry about german press right.

Just sell it through austrian channels like everybody else that needs to circumvent the censorships.
We have no problems selling it. It'll just be hard to explain to the licensor why we ship a review copy to some foreign entity when what we have is distribution rights for Germany.

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Indexing is NOT a ban.
Call it what you like. To the licensor, the licensee (us), the German buyers, the German press - it's a ban. It's banned from general distribution (you can't put it up on shelves or put it up for display unless it's a controlled "over 18" area of a store etc.), you can't even sell it via mail order (not saying it's not being done, but the corresponding law is rather old and does not know about age checks by the delivery courier). Don't think anyone abroad would understand the meaning of indexed.
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The french version looks great. Will this also use the lastest Turbine DNR washing like american werewolf in Paris? It's like Krekle all over Had higher hopes for Turbine after the great Death Machine

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Yeah I watched Death Machine again yesterday.

I'm still surprised that it looks so good for a 2 hour movie crammed into a BD-25. Especially as I watched it on my 4K UHD TV and player

Turbine really did do that cult gem justice. Looking forward to getting Crying Freeman (Picking Cover B, BTW).
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:34 PM   #20
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@Turbine,

Will you use the French BD transfer for your release of "Crying Freeman"?

Will the Turbine release of "Crying Freeman" be a BD50?

Why was "Death Machine" released as a BD25 (instead of going for higher bitrate with a BD50)? Surely the costs for going BD50 couldn't be much more than BD25.

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