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Old 11-10-2017, 07:09 PM   #1
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It looks like Paramount Germany will release the first five seasons of NCIS (2003-) as a box set on 18 January 2018. This release will apparently be 29 discs, and is currently an Amazon.de Exclusive, priced at just 99,99 VAT included, which means it's 84,03 (or 87,03 with shipping) to the United States.
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Game, set, match. Just pre-ordered. CBS/Paramount Germany making all my TV Show Blu-ray dreams come true. Can't help but feel a trend here with these Blu-ray releases as of late. All 7 seasons of "The Good Wife" next please! Well, just so long as Seasons 6-14 and beyond of NCIS are released as well. Surely that's not too much to ask.

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Old 11-16-2017, 11:12 PM   #3
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what other ones have they released here ? besides Hawaii 5-0
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what other ones have they released here ? besides Hawaii 5-0
For starters:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....7#post14321657

There are also others released from Capelight, Koch Media, Sony and StudioCanal through the years. As well as various BBC/UK programs released by Polyband.
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Old 01-17-2018, 02:49 PM   #5
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Is Amazon shipping this out yet?
Curious to hear what you guys have to say about it...

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Are these discs going to be Region B locked? What do you all think? I hope not.
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Are these discs going to be Region B locked? What do you all think? I hope not.
Given its Paramount almost certainly not. Have only heard of them regionally locking some of their films in North America to RA when they only have local rights e.g. Gladiator or Braveheart.

NCIS is owned by CBS hence Paramount out right so no need to lock.
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Given it’s Paramount almost certainly not. Have only heard of them regionally locking some of their films in North America to RA when they only have local rights e.g. Gladiator or Braveheart.

NCIS is owned by CBS hence Paramount out right so no need to lock.
Thanks for the feedback on this. I'll be storing this for playback in my Sony Blu-ray changers. They don't play Region B which means I'd have to create Region Free backups of all the discs if they were Region B locked. Not a deal breaker, but great to hear this will more than likely not be Region B locked.

I did have this pre-ordered. Cancelled my pre-order last month after getting laid off from my full-time job. Was part of a workforce reduction. I've since been hired back though, so I pulled the trigger on this again today. I'll chime back in once I receive my copy and have a chance to give it a good once over. Estimated delivery date for me is showing 31 Jan - 5 Feb. Can't wait!
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Is Amazon shipping this out yet?
Curious to hear what you guys have to say about it...
Not yet, my copy is preparing for dispatch.
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Not yet, my copy is preparing for dispatch.
So is mine. However says it wont depart until Monday and then 2 days to get to UK. Not sure if they have delays at present with all the bad weather over there at present. Lots of pictures online of trucks blown over etc.
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Here are some pictures of the set:




I haven't had time to check the specs yet. But according to a German Forum it's English DTS-HD Master 2.0 for Season 1 and Season 2 and DTS-HD Master 5.1 for Seasons 3 - 5. German DTS-HD Master 2.0 for all the seasons. I'm going to check that and Region Coding later.
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Here are some pictures of the set:




I haven't had time to check the specs yet. But according to a German Forum it's English DTS-HD Master 2.0 for Season 1 and Season 2 and DTS-HD Master 5.1 for Seasons 3 - 5. German DTS-HD Master 2.0 for all the seasons. I'm going to check that and Region Coding later.
Nice pics. Thanks for posting. Can't wait to get my copy. Will be most excellent to retire my Seasons 1-5 DVD sets of this.
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Here are some pictures of the set:




I haven't had time to check the specs yet. But according to a German Forum it's English DTS-HD Master 2.0 for Season 1 and Season 2 and DTS-HD Master 5.1 for Seasons 3 - 5. German DTS-HD Master 2.0 for all the seasons. I'm going to check that and Region Coding later.
I just checked one disc from each season:

- The language options I posted above are correct. ( English: 2.0 Season 1&2, 5.1 Seasons 3-5, German: 2.0 Season 1 - 5)
- Subtitles are available in German and English
- Menus are German-Only but very easy to navigate if you ever used a DVD/Blu-Ray Menu.
- Works with Region A and Region B Players (Don't have a Region C-Player to test)
- I just spot checked a few of the episodes and picture quality seemed ok, but I have to take a closer look some time later
- Yes, getting the discs out of the case is as much fun as you would expect it to be with 3 and 2 stacks right next to each other.

One more thing about the picture quality: If you've never seen the show before (like me) don't fall of your couch because of the bad picture quality of the first frame of the first episode (like I did ). It's lower than low resolution stock footage of Air Force One. After a few seconds it cut's to actuall footage of the show and all is ok. :-)

Let me know if there are any other questions about this set.
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I just checked one disc from each season:

- The language options I posted above are correct. ( English: 2.0 Season 1&2, 5.1 Seasons 3-5, German: 2.0 Season 1 - 5)
- Subtitles are available in German and English
- Menus are German-Only but very easy to navigate if you ever used a DVD/Blu-Ray Menu.
- Works with Region A and Region B Players (Don't have a Region C-Player to test)
- I just spot checked a few of the episodes and picture quality seemed ok, but I have to take a closer look some time later
- Yes, getting the discs out of the case is as much fun as you would expect it to be with 3 and 2 stacks right next to each other.

One more thing about the picture quality: If you've never seen the show before (like me) don't fall of your couch because of the bad picture quality of the first frame of the first episode (like I did ). It's lower than low resolution stock footage of Air Force One. After a few seconds it cut's to actuall footage of the show and all is ok. :-)

Let me know if there are any other questions about this set.
Thanks for the details. It will be 2 weeks before my copy arrives. The first thing I'll be doing is removing the discs from the retail packaging as they'll be permanently stored for playback in my Sony Blu-ray changers. :-P I own all the seasons on DVD and the HD streams available barely best the DVD's. The HD streams are very underwhelming. Considering this, I don't expect to be wow'd with the presentation on Blu-ray. If the presentation on Blu-ray provides a significant improvement over the DVD's and even a modest improvement over the HD streams I'll be more than satisfied. Projected at 120" diagonal I'm quite sure the juice will be worth the squeeze. I hold no value on streaming content. Any opportunity to own my favorite movies and TV shows in HD on Blu-ray is an opportunity too good to pass up. And here's to hoping we are treated in the near future to a "NCIS: Seasons 6-10" as well!

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Cap.T once you've had a look at some of the episodes I'm curious to know about any onscreen text (like a location, etc) and whether or not it's in English or German.
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Cap.T once you've had a look at some of the episodes I'm curious to know about any onscreen text (like a location, etc) and whether or not it's in English or German.
I'm pretty sure it's US-Masters but I'm going to check again when I get home from work this evening.
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My boxset is also waiting at home for me, so I can also check this weekend. Given the multiple spoken language options and subtitles, I would expect them to be in English as broadcast and then subtitled with other languages. This is coming from CBS Paramount so likely to be a global US master.

The CSI Cyber German BDs another CBS show were released by a local German company plus being interlaced were also almost certainly the German TV HD master.
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So I just watched the first two episodes and the picture quality definitly won't win any awards. If I had to descripe it with one word it would be soft. It's ok, but I had hoped for a bit more.

And yeah these are US-Masters.
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My copy arrived today, and I can confirm the basics of what has been said. That the first two seasons appear to have their original 2.0 audio (in DTS-HD MA), while the third season onwards, where the episodes are available with 5.1 sound, the English audio is DTS-HD MA 5.1. All five seasons also have a German: DTS-HD MA 2.0 dubbed audio track, which appears to be the default option, I was able to test the first disc of the first season, and has very easy-to-understand German menus, and the episodes also have German and English SDH subtitles.

I also made an effort to look at one disc from each season on my PC. PowerDVD hasn't worked for me for months, so the best I can do is make BDInfo scans and use VLC to look at .m2ts files in a very rough fashion, as VLC struggles with Blu-ray. From looking at these discs, I can confirm the aformentioned audio change from the second to the third season, and the fact that English subtitles (presumably all English SDH) should be on at least the episodes. The discs that I looked at also had no 50Hz content, so I assume that holds true for all twenty-nine discs. And it does seem that all the discs are region free according to AnyDVD, but I haven't been able to test them in my player, yet.

Unfortunately, the packaging is an absolute nightmare. It is as it appears online--an oversized clear amaray case in a cardboard slipcover, which is a design CBS have used for a lot of their recent large DVD sets, but given that there are twenty-nine discs inside, they are stacked 2-4 deep, even mixing seasons. The worst part is that the discs on the bottom of each stack struggle to release from the large center spindle, something which forced me to really bend the discs to try and release them. I think they are all okay, but I'm not going to be touching most of them again until the replacement viva elite cases I ordered show up. The new "season" packs I'll make won't have jacket art, but it will make me feel a hell of a lot better about their long-term lives.

I did also take a look at the first episode,"Yankee White", and I have to say, it may be a minority opinion, but I like the picture quality it a lot, knowing what NCIS looks like. Yes, it is soft, but aside from that, it also seems to look pretty damn good. I think the DVDs and HD broadcasts probably really struggle to define the imagery properly because of the soft photography, and the Blu-ray, while it doesn't look like most Blu-rays, just seems very satisfying. I also have an inkling that the lossless DTS-HD MA 2.0 audio is quite superior to the Dolby Digital 2.0 audio on the DVDs, but I may do some comparisons at a later date to double-check.
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BDinfo scan:

Season 1, Disc 1: "Yankee White":

Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00001.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:44:15 11,059,808,256  44,009,036,268  33.31   27.02   DTS-HD Master 2.0 2129Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     NCIS S1 D1
Disc Size:      44,009,036,268 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 0:44:15.819 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   11,059,808,256 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33.31 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        27017 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             German          2129 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2129 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2142 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2142 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          54.394 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         53.396 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          0.148 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00001.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:44:14.818     11,059,783,680  33,327          
00999.M2TS      0:44:14.818     0:00:01.000     24,576          196             

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:03:31.836     29,994 kbps     59,792 kbps     00:02:54.632    37,670 kbps     00:02:54.632    34,703 kbps     00:02:54.632    156,345 bytes   810,358 bytes   00:03:05.643    
2               0:03:31.836     0:07:30.199     26,825 kbps     47,081 kbps     00:09:17.932    35,144 kbps     00:04:38.319    34,260 kbps     00:04:34.774    139,851 bytes   700,560 bytes   00:05:42.550    
3               0:11:02.036     0:11:53.879     25,833 kbps     45,296 kbps     00:16:26.193    36,493 kbps     00:13:31.811    34,815 kbps     00:13:27.932    134,679 bytes   708,814 bytes   00:20:02.784    
4               0:22:55.916     0:07:52.305     30,527 kbps     47,575 kbps     00:24:30.760    37,618 kbps     00:24:29.801    34,841 kbps     00:24:29.801    159,154 bytes   791,904 bytes   00:28:47.809    
5               0:30:48.221     0:12:59.361     25,911 kbps     60,486 kbps     00:30:48.555    37,587 kbps     00:36:34.066    34,513 kbps     00:30:48.555    135,088 bytes   756,284 bytes   00:30:48.596    
6               0:43:47.583     0:00:27.235     9,839 kbps      30,570 kbps     00:44:10.773    19,278 kbps     00:44:07.728    13,946 kbps     00:44:02.723    51,297 bytes    842,763 bytes   00:43:50.711    
7               0:44:14.818     0:00:01.000     75 kbps         0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    410 bytes       2,425 bytes     00:44:15.778    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     2654.652                27,029                  8,968,961,268   48,781,341      
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       deu (German)            2654.652                2,129                   706,633,712     4,257,114       
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           2654.652                2,143                   711,233,484     4,270,787       
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            2654.652                54                      18,057,432      102,995         
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           2654.652                53                      17,726,359      101,536         
00001.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            2654.652                0                       49,153          294             
00999.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     0.918                   103                     11,858          72
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