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Old 01-14-2013, 05:19 PM   #1
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Post Help me setting up my new Bluray Player sound effects settings.

I got this new bluray dvd player , and when i tested a bluray movie on it (jaws), in the pop up menu, there was an option called "Sound effects" . Which one am i going to choose ? Leave it off or "Night Surround" or "Re-master" 1 or 2 or 3 or else i can choose "Digital Tube Sound" 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 or 6 ?

I also set the "Dialogue Enhancer" to on and "High Clarity Sound" on on.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:56 PM   #2
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I got this new bluray dvd player , and when i tested a bluray movie on it (jaws), in the pop up menu, there was an option called "Sound effects" . Which one am i going to choose ? Leave it off or "Night Surround" or "Re-master" 1 or 2 or 3 or else i can choose "Digital Tube Sound" 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 or 6 ?

I also set the "Dialogue Enhancer" to on and "High Clarity Sound" on on.
Its all user preference there is no right or wrong. If you want unchanged audio then turn off every thing you listed. If you turn any of those on and like them, well that would be your preference.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:03 PM   #3
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Its all user preference there is no right or wrong. If you want unchanged audio then turn off every thing you listed. If you turn any of those on and like them, well that would be your preference.
The only reason i turned them on is because i sometimes find it difficult to hear the dialogue speecehes from my center speaker because of room problems.
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:16 PM   #4
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The only reason i turned them on is because i sometimes find it difficult to hear the dialogue speecehes from my center speaker because of room problems.
You can always try to raise the trim levels in your receiver for the center channel .
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:21 PM   #5
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You can always try to raise the trim levels in your receiver for the center channel .
Its already about 3-4 dB higher than my fronts. I think the problem is that thw center speaker is mounted on my 65inch , so its pretty high and its barely pointed down to the listening position , so until i find a place for the cc under the tv, i switched these settings to on.
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Its already about 3-4 dB higher than my fronts. I think the problem is that thw center speaker is mounted on my 65inch , so its pretty high and its barely pointed down to the listening position , so until i find a place for the cc under the tv, i switched these settings to on.
You can use small rubber doorstops to better aim your center channel down into the listening area.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:14 PM   #7
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In regards to the sound effects settings, these are almost the same thing you see on most CD/Radio systems. On those they are called-rock,classic,pop,etc. Basically all that is being done is equalization. You're better off going into the treble and bass settings of your receiver to adjust these to preference.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:27 PM   #8
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I got this new bluray dvd player , and when i tested a bluray movie on it (jaws), in the pop up menu, there was an option called "Sound effects" . Which one am i going to choose ? Leave it off or "Night Surround" or "Re-master" 1 or 2 or 3 or else i can choose "Digital Tube Sound" 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 or 6 ?

I also set the "Dialogue Enhancer" to on and "High Clarity Sound" on on.
Turn night surround to off. Night Surround decreases the volume for late night viewing (which you don't want.)
Dialogue Enhancer should be turned off as well. You don't want to output any artificial sound enhancements, when you're listening to lossless, or HD audio. You definitely want to hear the soundtrack exactly the way it was recorded on the master.

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Old 01-14-2013, 07:35 PM   #9
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The absolute best way is to just pic a section of a movie you want to hear a certain way and then just try all settings.

I agree with slimdude. Just turn that night time cr@p off. Depending on your brand of player, it also cuts out the LFE channel and completely sucks out your sub woofer.

You are better served just turning your volume down at night for that.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:09 AM   #10
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If the player is set to bitstream, none of those settings have any effect. They only matter if you set the player to output PCM.

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You definitely want to hear the soundtrack exactly the way it was recorded on the master.
Movies are mixed to play at reference level in large auditoriums. That may not be optimal for smaller home environments at lower volumes. So, some adjustments may be helpful.



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Old 01-15-2013, 07:39 AM   #12
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If the player is set to bitstream, none of those settings have any effect. They only matter if you set the player to output PCM.

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Yes, my settings are set to Bitstream. Should i leave it in bitstream ?
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Movies are mixed to play at reference level in large auditoriums. That may not be optimal for smaller home environments at lower volumes. So, some adjustments may be helpful.
Not necessarily! Making adjustments to lossless audio, can be a hindrance, to fully output 100 percent of its sound... When you're listening a lossless soundtrack on blu-ray, there is no audio adjustments needed. Why altered lossless audio, when the bitrate is sonically identical to the master recording? You'll be defeating the purpose of listening to lossless audio, if you're going to make adjustments, and manually reduce the sound! It's lossless! This is exactly why I can't understand why some people prefer to use matrix processing enhancements, whey they're listening to lossless audio. It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Yes, my settings are set to Bitstream. Should i leave it in bitstream ?
It makes no difference where the decoding is done. You get the same PCM either way. I was merely pointing out that the discussion about the player's processing modes is not relevant if you set the output to bitstream.

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When you're listening a lossless soundtrack on blu-ray, there is no audio adjustments needed.
It would appear you didn't read my post. Listening in smaller spaces at lower volumes affects what you hear. Compensating for those differences is a good thing. By your reasoning, people should not use room correction software such as Audyssey since the soundtrack will not play back exactly as it was recorded.



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Not necessarily! Making adjustments to lossless audio, can be a hindrance, to fully output 100 percent of its sound... When you're listening a lossless soundtrack on blu-ray, there is no audio adjustments needed. Why altered lossless audio, when the bitrate is sonically identical to the master recording? You'll be defeating the purpose of listening to lossless audio, if you're going to make adjustments, and manually reduce the sound! It's lossless! This is exactly why I can't understand why some people prefer to use matrix processing enhancements, whey they're listening to lossless audio. It doesn't make any sense to me.
It really doesn't matter what the producers have done. What you hear in your room and with your equipment, particularly your speakers, is completely different than what was on the studio master or the sound engineers heard in their studio. That is why you need to make adjustments to all the speakers, particularly to the subwoofer(s).

You need to read the following threads.

Why Do We Need Equalization and Room Correction?
A Guide to Audyssey Auto Calibration & Other Technologies
[LIST][*]The interaction between lower frequencies and boundaries causes the most problem.

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When a full-range signal is panned to each of the loudspeakers in turn, and measurements are made at the listening position, we find hugely different bass responses for each of the loudspeakers. The differences are as large as 40dB in this room, and the biggest ones are all at low frequencies. The reason, the woofers each have very different acoustical “coupling” to the room resonances because they are in different locations. This will be different for every different room. Again, referring back to the “circle of confusion” the bass that was heard in the control room will not be the same as that heard at home. It cannot be.


TooleBassResponse.jpg
We have five very different bass sounds, one for each channel!


Attempting to improve the situation by panning the bass to pairs of loudspeakers changes things, but does not remove the problem. Anybody think that an “ideal” room can help this? An anechoic room would, but none of us would wish to live in one.

And this is why bass management and subwoofers make sense. Now we can place the woofers where they perform optimally for a specific room with a specific listening position. We can place the satellites (a term that seems inappropriate for some of the large capable loudspeakers that we use in the high-passed channels) where they need to be for directional and imaging effects. In other words, we design the low-frequency portion of the system separately because rooms force us to do so. This is the only way that we can get good bass in any room, and have any hope of having similarly good bass in different rooms. Remember about preserving the art?
http://www.audyssey.com/node/545
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Many thanks to Big Daddy for his work on the informative documents. I got a surround sound system (my first) for Christmas and after having just plopped them down anywhere am working on fine tuning. Those resources are very informative!
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