looking to buy an audio system

[moviefan]

Originally Posted by turboedguy

Dude thats not nice, hes looking for help, not crap.

Bose IS crap!

[ManUtd]

Doc, here are some links for you to start with:

link 1
link 2
link 3

[moviefan]

Sony is due out soon with the STR-DG 820 & 920. Both these 7.1 receivers support all the new audio formats, and have full HDMI 1.3 switching.
Best Buy occasionally runs the $500 Klipsch Quinter III set for $300, and the $400 KSW 10 sub for $250. Be careful, however, if they package them with a Yamaha receiver as it only has HDMI video pass thru.

[Memnoch71]

Originally Posted by dlshelt

I knew when i typed that word you would forget about the post and start talking about bose,it happens everytime

Let's just head off this argument, you cannot get a BOSE system with HDMI passthrough in the Price Range the OP is looking for. It looks more like to me you were the one trying to start trouble with the same old broken record. Stick to what the OP wants to know about, PLEASE!!

Another alternative would be a Marantz SR4002 Reciever ($500), and then get a nice set of Speakers. The Mirage Nanosat 5.1 system with a 10" Sub and 5 satellites makes a good sound and you can preview them at any Best Buy\Magnolia store.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

Ok, I'm slowly learning so I can be an educated consumer as I make my individual Video audio purchases (will be buying a 46/52 XBR4, 705/805 Onkyo) Now I need to start learning about speakers.

Used the search, found no thread with a home audio guide? Any links folks?

The first question I have deals with terms. What little electrical education I got in undergrad leaves me remembering that OHMS had to do with resistance.

How do ohms relate to speakers, why is it important, what should I look for, why should I care, what happens if you mix different ohm rated products?

Watts=power (bigger boom from your speakers)
Amps=voltage (not sure what this has to do with speakers)
(right?)

So now I'm left scratching my head about ohms...

Can anyone provide a little speakers 101 help or define some terms commonly related to choosing a home theater sound system?

THANKS!

Cheers, Doc.

Try this sticky from the speakers section

watts = amps x volts
ohms are the amount of resistance a speaker has.
Ohms = volts/amps

Ohms become important as not all receivers can handle say a 6 ohm or 4 ohm speakers. Most are setup for 8ohm. If you lower the resistance to 4 ohms and the receiver isn't rated to handle it, you can burn it up

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

Doc, here are some links for you to start with:

Thanks Art... will immerse myself in them now...

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Slec

Try this sticky from the speakers section

A-Ha! I KNEW Crackinhedz would have something like this somewhere (can always count on him...) Thanks for the Hedz-up (don't know why I couldn't find that sticky before...

Thanks Slec, Doc.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

A-Ha! I KNEW Crackinhedz would have something like this somewhere (can always count on him...) Thanks for the Hedz-up (don't know why I couldn't find that sticky before...

Thanks Slec, Doc.

He is the man....

[doctorsteve]

Ok, I looked through ALL of it... believe it or don't, and my main question isn't answered in any of those links or tutorials.

So... Why do I care about Ohms? I'm going to make a guess here - please tell me if I'm even in the ballpark - The higher the Ohms for speakers, the more watts would be needed to produce the same sound level for that speaker?

and if THAT is true, then is lower Ohms better (because your receiver wouldn't need to provide as much power), or are HIGHER Ohms better (maybe provides better quality or something, I'm just trying to imagine a reason why high Ohms would be better), and therefore it NECESSITATES a receiver with higher watts per channel if you want to get high quality, thundering sound (especially for a bigger room).

Since I can't find the answer in all those guides, could one of you kind folk fill me in???? Please?

Doc

[Memnoch71]

It is my understanding that a 4 ohm speaker requires more power to drive it to the same decible level as an 8 ohm speaker. So actually it's the lower the Ohms for speakers, the more watts would be needed to produce the same sound level for that speaker. That being said generally you cannot drive an 8 ohm speaker to the same(high) level as a 4 ohm without it creating more distortion. So if you want very high Volume, with little or no distortion, a 4 ohm speaker(Generally Speaking) would be a better choice. However you will need to make sure you have a much better\more powerful amp to produce the sound.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

Ok, I looked through ALL of it... believe it or don't, and my main question isn't answered in any of those links or tutorials.

So... Why do I care about Ohms? I'm going to make a guess here - please tell me if I'm even in the ballpark - The higher the Ohms for speakers, the more watts would be needed to produce the same sound level for that speaker?

and if THAT is true, then is lower Ohms better (because your receiver wouldn't need to provide as much power), or are HIGHER Ohms better (maybe provides better quality or something, I'm just trying to imagine a reason why high Ohms would be better), and therefore it NECESSITATES a receiver with higher watts per channel if you want to get high quality, thundering sound (especially for a bigger room).

Since I can't find the answer in all those guides, could one of you kind folk fill me in???? Please?

Doc

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...ers_faq.html#5

and another with mathematics of it all

[blujacket]

For speakers

http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-sbs_black.cfm

Receiver

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4219055

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Slec

and another with mathematics of it all

Bull's-eye... that last one was exactly what I was looking for. Made the undergrad electricity lectures come flooding back... Got it!

Thanks all...

Doc.

[Homura]

I don't know if others have noticed this, but my roommate has the Onkyo 605 and it is relatively quiet at the max setting. I have read that others have the same issue; anyone else noticed this?

[Baseball3]

There is no better value/bang for the buck than this: Onkyo 605, Boston Acoustics MCS130 and a PS3. I am now living in the SACD world, among others proudly brought to me, thanks to the PS3. You will not be disappointed and you will have a tremendous value.

[Beta Man]

Also note that specs will only get you so far....... for the love of god AUDITION YOUR EQUIPMENT BEFORE BUYING!!!!!

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by Slec

and another with mathematics of it all

included this link in the speaker sticky thread.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Also note that specs will only get you so far....... for the love of god AUDITION YOUR EQUIPMENT BEFORE BUYING!!!!!

QFT. This point cannot be emphasised enough!