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Old 03-21-2008, 04:29 PM   #1
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Would there be any issues with video quality running HDMI through the receiver as opposed to directly to the display?
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:36 PM   #2
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From what I hear, no. I am a little skeptical about that too. I want to pick up a onkyo 605, but I have the same questions.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:13 PM   #3
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No processing is done to the HDMI signal. It is passed through the receiver on to the tv untouched. No need to worry about it.

The signal is only messed with when you upconvert a signal. 1080 in/1080 out through the same plug type (HDMI) will go untouched.
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No processing is done to the HDMI signal. It is passed through the receiver on to the tv untouched. No need to worry about it.

The signal is only messed with when you upconvert a signal. 1080 in/1080 out through the same plug type (HDMI) will go untouched.
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From what I hear, no. I am a little skeptical about that too. I want to pick up a onkyo 605, but I have the same questions.
I have the Onkyo 605 between my PS3 and HDTV. No PQ loss to speak of.
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I think some receivers like my 94TXH does a pass through for all HDMI inputs, so no issues there.
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No processing is done to the HDMI signal. It is passed through the receiver on to the tv untouched. No need to worry about it.

The signal is only messed with when you upconvert a signal. 1080 in/1080 out through the same plug type (HDMI) will go untouched.
this is very untrue...but a common misconception...many receivers do alter the PQ and you have to be careful with your settings...i have the onkyo 705 and it alters the black level by default...also, if you are passing 1080/24 most receivers will not pass it through correctly
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this is very untrue...but a common misconception...many receivers do alter the PQ and you have to be careful with your settings...i have the onkyo 705 and it alters the black level by default...also, if you are passing 1080/24 most receivers will not pass it through correctly

I believe the new Yamahas will pass 1080/24 correctly. (Hopefully).
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I am in the market for the 805, since I got the Polkaudio RTi10s to drive. I want to run my PS3 via hdmi through thr receiver, and I hope the PQ stays good. Will I still be able to watch the tv if the receiver is not powered on?
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:55 PM   #10
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I am in the market for the 805, since I got the Polkaudio RTi10s to drive. I want to run my PS3 via hdmi through thr receiver, and I hope the PQ stays good. Will I still be able to watch the tv if the receiver is not powered on?
if you run hdmi or component cables from your cable box to your receiver, your receiver will need to be powered on to watch tv...if you run directly to your tv, no -> but most likely you're going to be at least running hdmi or optical from your cable box to your receiver for audio so you're probably going to want your receiver powered on
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Just some quick advice... this may work well in Receiver Discussion forum. There are several posters there who are super experts with this.

I'm not judging... just offering help.
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this is very untrue...but a common misconception...many receivers do alter the PQ and you have to be careful with your settings...i have the onkyo 705 and it alters the black level by default...also, if you are passing 1080/24 most receivers will not pass it through correctly
How do you know if your receiver passes 1080/24 correctly?
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Why not run one HDMI cable from the player to the receiver and another one from the player to the tv?
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People with early HK247/347s have sparkling issues. IMO, the data is being altered.

Wether or not this = loss... dont know. I am wondering if I should run a splitter to send HDMI to the AVR and TV.
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Why not run one HDMI cable from the player to the receiver and another one from the player to the tv?
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How do you know if your receiver passes 1080/24 correctly?
i haven't been able to test this as my tv is 60hz and does not support it...your best bet is to check the specs on your receiver and tv and blu-ray player -> they all have to support it
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if you run hdmi or component cables from your cable box to your receiver, your receiver will need to be powered on to watch tv...if you run directly to your tv, no -> but most likely you're going to be at least running hdmi or optical from your cable box to your receiver for audio so you're probably going to want your receiver powered on
Okay. Thanks for the help. I have always ran sound only through my receiver since it is an older Onkyo. Once I get the upgrade in place I will be able to try it both ways. If the HDMI looks as good transferred through the receiver as it does straight from the source to the tv, then I will run it through the receiver.
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Okay. Thanks for the help. I have always ran sound only through my receiver since it is an older Onkyo. Once I get the upgrade in place I will be able to try it both ways. If the HDMI looks as good transferred through the receiver as it does straight from the source to the tv, then I will run it through the receiver.
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Why not run one HDMI cable from the player to the receiver and another one from the player to the tv?
You would need either two HDMI outputs on your player (does any player support this) or a likely to be expensive device that splits the HDMI signal.
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I believe the new Yamahas will pass 1080/24 correctly. (Hopefully).
My RX-Z11 seems to pass 1080p/24 fine (the picture looks ok, though I've not done a side-by-side comparison with and without the receiver in the path...too much trouble I guess).
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