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Old 03-26-2008, 06:11 PM   #1
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I searched the forums a little but figured id just ask. Im looking at buying a new sub. Any suggestions?
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Elemental Designs

Best Bang for you buck. I love my A2-300 to death its its one of their lower line models.
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HSU:
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Thanks...
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Highly recommend SVS. BTW, you need to search a little more, there are a few threads about subs.
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I am also considering an SVS sub after some of the glowing recommendations on this forum. I recently purchased some Axiom L/C/R/S and am in love with them. I basically got that idea from here.
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listen to various subs within the price range you're shopping in........

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I searched the forums a little but figured id just ask. Im looking at buying a new sub. Any suggestions?
What is your budget?
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:16 PM   #9
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What is your budget?
realistically, from $500 - $700 if possible... Im kinda thinking maybe i should wait and save up for a while but currently I have an old Energy Subwoofer. It is out of date and I dont feel it is very accurate.
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And what about your room size?

SVS, HSU, Velodyne.......they all make great subs. I would start by visiting their websites and using the subwoofer selection guide. I know Velodyne has one.

I have a Velodyne and am very happy with it. Actually, my sub retails for $1200, but I bought it from a Tweeter store in my area. It was used, but in great condition. I got it for $599.99

You might want to check your local Tweeters
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realistically, from $500 - $700 if possible... Im kinda thinking maybe i should wait and save up for a while but currently I have an old Energy Subwoofer. It is out of date and I dont feel it is very accurate.
I would give Elemental Designs serious thoughts too, they have been opening eyes all over the place so far this year.

The $650 A5-350 - http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=618

The $475 A3-300 - http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=102

Both hit 18Hz +/- 3dB.
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Thanks guys, looks like its time for me to do my homework. The elemental designs hitting low frequencys for that price looks pretty good...
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Thanks guys, looks like its time for me to do my homework. The elemental designs hitting low frequencys for that price looks pretty good...
There is more to subs than hitting low frequencies.
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anybody know about the brand Velodyne and if its good?
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Thanks guys, looks like its time for me to do my homework. The elemental designs hitting low frequencys for that price looks pretty good...
In addition you may want to look at this sub
http://av123.com/index.php?page=shop...mart&Itemid=37

It's per dollar one of the most impressive subs currently being talked about.
It's only $599.
This is the one I meant to mention.
As you can see on Craigsub's list - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...36&postcount=8

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Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Look at the pricing on the subs around it and what Craig has to say:

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Listening results: The MFW-15 amazed the panel by largely matching the PB13 Ultra in all musical areas with the exception of pipe organ. Bass is deep, tight and powerful, with no overhang at all. The cabinet work done on this subwoofer is absolultely stellar, especially in its price range. By stellar, we mean just how inert it is. The cabinet barely vibrates during the most powerful passages, and this helps the MFW-15 to get its excellent musical rating. It is, as an earlier graph shows, very linear in its response curve, all the way to 100 Hz. It is in the area of slam an linearity that allows this subwoofer to match more high priced units. The Steely Dan disc on this subwoofer is a bass head's dream, with a lot of the panel requesting to hear it again after the test. Stanley Clarke was also as crystal clear on the MFW-15 as with any subwoofer we have had.

Measured results... 20 Hz - 105 dB ... 20-63 Hz average: 112 dB
No wonder AV123 is currently sold out of this sub!!!!

It outperforms the DD-18 which is a $5,000 sub.
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There is more to subs than hitting low frequencies.
Absolutely agree - hitting them accurately with low distortion, that's what's important to me.
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realistically, from $500 - $700 if possible... Im kinda thinking maybe i should wait and save up for a while but currently I have an old Energy Subwoofer. It is out of date and I dont feel it is very accurate.
My SVS knocks my socks off every time I listen to it. Drops a serious low note but still has insanely low distortion. And it is very musical, especially for its size. They have an in-home 45 day trial period too. You can get the 20-39 PCi for the price range you are looking at.

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Absolutely agree - hitting them accurately with low distortion, that's what's important to me.
Yes, I know that.
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In addition you may want to look at this sub
http://av123.com/index.php?page=shop...mart&Itemid=37

It's per dollar one of the most impressive subs currently being talked about.
It's only $599.
YES, I recommend that sub too! For the price you won't find anything better. Period. Keep in mind that it's monstrous, so make sure you have room...
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Get the one at the top of the list. Elemental Designs A7-90. Just make sure you have enough room as it is about 4 ft deep.
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