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Old 05-20-2008, 10:51 AM   #1
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Unhappy Mission: Impossible DD+ question...

Mission impossible is back on blu ray does dolby digital plus work on a ps3 with an onkyo sr 705

or is it just dolby digital 5.1 then
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:28 AM   #2
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:04 PM   #3
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I believe MI 1 - 3 are all Dolby Digital at 640kbs.

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All three 'Mission: Impossible' films also get Dolby Digital 5.1 surround tracks, and as with the video, the audio predictably improves with each roman numeral.

Granted it is now a decade old, but the first 'Mission: Impossible' just doesn't dazzle. Sure, the film still sounds good -- dynamic range is predictably terrific for a big-budget action spectacle, with impeccable sound reproduction (impressive are all the constructed sounds for the various gadgets and the like) and strong clarity to the dialogue -- which, alas, didn't help my comprehension of the plot. However, surround use is a bit more sporadic than in a totally modern mix. The action scenes come alive, with a some nice whoosh-pans in the rears and solid imaging, but atmosphere is generally lacking, with even scenes in crowded restaurants and the like failing to create that bustling, realistic ambiance I hoped for. The film's score by Danny Elfman, however, comes through loud and clear, as does the great opening montage featuring U2's modern updating of the series' classic theme song.

Both 'M:i-2' and 'M:i:III' are more comparable. Dynamics are very strong on both, and downright fantastic on 'M:i:III.' Rare is the Dolby Digital soundtrack I've heard with such transparent imaging and highly aggressive discrete effects. Sound transitions are just about seamless, creating a truly immersive 360-degree soundfield, the motorcycle scene during 'M:i-2' and the bridge attack in 'M:i:III' being notable examples -- these are reference quality scenes that belong on the top shelf of every enthusiast's library of great demo material. Low bass is also rock solid, and atmosphere and the use of score far more pronounced than on the first 'M:I.' Though pretty silly, the "car ballet" love scene in 'M:i-2' benefits greatly from strong score deployment to the rears, while 'M:i:III' is even more creative in its use of ambient effects. I can only imagine what a TrueHD or DTS-HD version of these soundtracks would feel like -- I hope Paramount begins to support lossless or uncompressed sound formats soon.
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:53 PM   #4
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Yeah, I don't think that Paramount will redo the audio for their older titles. They will just rerelease what they did on blu-ray. We just have to hope that they fully embrace lossless audio for the future. Oh, and start releasing movies with more frequency.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:20 PM   #5
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I've read that Dolby Digital-Plus doesn't work on Blu-Ray or that a specific channel set up is the only way to do it (like 5.1 or something like that.) I have a Dolby demo Blu-Ray and sure enough, the 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus tracks aren't useable and it just detects the regular Dolby Digital audio track.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:23 PM   #6
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DD+ is an HD DVD thing. Most recievers don't even support it natively (the new Pioneer 1018 does) and the HD DVD player would transcode it to DTS
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:23 PM   #7
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Mission impossible is back on blu ray does dolby digital plus work on a ps3 with an onkyo sr 705

or is it just dolby digital 5.1 then
DD+ on Blu-ray is little more than a hack to get DD working in 7.1. It had more use on HD DVD, but for us, its pretty worthless. Some titles mentioned DD+ (usually because that's what the HD DVD of the same title had) but were really DD on Blu-ray.

In fact, if I remember the Dolby Blu-ray encoder correctly, if you encode DD+ 7.1 on Blu-ray, you still are encoding the main 5.1 channels in DD 640, and then whatever additional bitrate you allocate for DD+ just goes to the additional 2 channels. And if you are encoding in 5.1, you can't use DD+ at all.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:49 AM   #8
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thx probably won't update them too blu ray then
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:51 AM   #9
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MI3 is the only one worth an upgrade anyway. 1 and 2 are horrible old masters and DNR'd to death
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:04 AM   #10
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So would one be advised to get them or hold off for some future double dip?
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:12 AM   #11
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So would one be advised to get them or hold off for some future double dip?
Short of a BOGO, I'm holding off on them until a double-dip...

I had the HD DVD set, and I'm very disappointed by the inferior audio (HD DVD had 1.5 mbps, Blu-ray 640k)... so I'm waiting for "lossless"...

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Old 05-21-2008, 05:25 AM   #12
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Cool. Thanks. I'll just save my money for something else then.
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