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Old 10-20-2010, 12:09 AM   #921
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The LG 47LX9500 LCD 3D HDTV will not be added to the list since it appears to offer only 60HZ for each eye in 3-D mode


Like all other 3D HDTV displays on the market currently the LG 47LX9500 appears to use 60HZ for each eye in 3-D mode.

It should be mentioned that for 2-D 1080P material the LG 47LX9500 will properly display 1080P/24 Blu-ray material at 240HZ when Trumotion 480Hz is turned off (10:10 pulldown). The LG is a true 240HZ display with a 480Hz effect. When Truemotion is turned on film based material looks more like smooth video because of the frame Interpolation process.

Every year LG keeps improving on LCD technology. LG is starting to become a high-end brand name company in terms of picture quality. Both LG and Samsung are becoming leaders in terms of LCD picture quality. No longer is LG and Samsung viewed as discount displays with an average picture quality. Now LG and Samsung are becoming leaders in new technology that offers amazing picture quality for a LCD display. The LG 47LX9500 has deep black levels and shadow detail comparable to some plasma displays. What is unique about the LG 47LX9500 is its excellent off axis performance. According to the Home Theater review the LG 47LX9500 offers the best off-axis performance every tested for a LCD screen. There is little visible picture quality changes at viewing angles up to 45 degrees. LG is the leader in LCD off axis performance (Still not as good as a plasma).


The following are select quotes from the October 2010 Home Theater magazine review




“TruMotion 480Hz is LG’s motion-smoothing, frame interpolation feature. The set operates at a higher than normal refresh rate, in this case, 240 hertz, by either repeating frames (TruMotion 480Hz off) or interpolating new frames (TruMotion 480Hz on) as needed to bring the frame rate up to 240 Hz. The set then scans the backlights to produce a 480-Hz effect. A User TruMotion option offers separate control over Judder and Blur. You can reduce the video look that this sort of feature normally creates on film-based sources by increasing the Blur control and leaving Judder on zero.”

“The LG’s local dimming really delivered. Both the black levels and shadow details in all of my favorite test scenes were first rate. Season one of the new SGU: Stargate Universe is a surprisingly dark production, in terms of both the writing and the lighting. The LG handled those dark scenes beautifully. When the source called for a fade to black, or for black bars, their darkness melted into the near pitch black of my darkened room. While the blacks aren’t quite that dark when parts of the screen are lighter, the way the set handled dark scenes was never less than completely satisfying.”

The 47LX9500 offers better off-axis performance than any other LCD set we’ve tested, apart from the similarly impressive 47LE8500. There was little visible change up to a viewing angle of at least 45 degrees. Only plasmas can do better than this. The LCD technology that LG uses, called In Plane Switching (IPS), is inherently superior off axis to the LCD technologies that many other companies use.”

A few issues I discussed in the review, such as the uneven screen illumination visible on some program material, might put off some buyers, as might the high price for a relatively small set. But the LG 47LX9500 offers exceptionally good overall performance, performance that in some key areas isn’t bettered by any other set on the market. I enjoyed every hour I spent with it, and I’m certain that you will, too”



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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***

The following is the data that was on the old list



Front Projectors and Plasma Displays (List 1 of 6)**


Here is a list of HDTV displays that accepts a 1080P/24 signal for those that are interested in that feature to completely avoid any 3:2 pulldown problems.The data comes from verification from manufactories manuals,websites,magazines and other sources.

Note: only displays that have a 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, and higher refresh rates with 1080P/24 input support are included on this list. Displays that are 720P and accept a 1080P/24 input are not included on this list. Displays that are only 60Hz refresh rate and displays that incorrectly display 1080P/24 are not on the list. Displays that use a 3:2 pulldown process when a 1080P/24 signal is applied are also not included on the list.

** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version.


The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays


Front Projectors


Digital Projection M-Vision Cine LED DLP (48Hz)

DreamVision Starlight 1 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

DreamVision Starlight 2 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

DreamVision Starlight 3 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080UB LCD Front Projector (48Hz)

Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080UB LCD Front Projector (48Hz)

Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 7100 LCD Projector (48Hz)

Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 8100 LCD Projector (48Hz)

Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 9100 LCD Projector (48Hz)

Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 6500UB LCD Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ refreshed at 120HZ

Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 7500UB LCD Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ refreshed at 120HZ

Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 8500UB LCD Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ refreshed at 120HZ

Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 9500UB LCD Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ refreshed at 96HZ or 120HZ

InFocus Play Big IN82 1080P DLP Front Projector (48HZ)

JVC DLA-RS35 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD990 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS25 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD950 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS15 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD550 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

Marantz VP-11S2 DLP Front Projector (48HZ)

Marantz VP-15S1 DLP Front Projector (48HZ)

Mitsubishi HC3800 1080P LCD Front Projector (48HZ)

Mitsubishi HC6800 1080P LCD Front Projector (48HZ)

Mitsubishi HC7000 1080P LCD Front Projector (48HZ)

Optoma HD8000 Single Chip DLP front projector (48HZ)

PANASONIC PT-AE4000U LCD Front projector (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Frame Creation is turned off)

PANASONIC PT-AE3000U LCD Front projector (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Frame Creation is turned off)

Planar PD8150 DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Runco LS-3 DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Runco LS-5 DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Runco Q-750I LED Front projector (48HZ)

Samsung SP-A600B DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Samsung SP-A800B DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Samsung SP-A900B DLP Front projector (48HZ)

Sanyo PLV-Z3000 LCD Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

Sim2’s C3X 1080P DLP Front Projector (48HZ) (Nov 2007 Widescren Review claims 48HZ pages 14-21)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-HW15 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 200" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW70 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 300" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW200 (192Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 240HZ





Plasma (flat panel)

LG 60PS80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 50PS80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 60PS60 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

LG 50PS60 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Flim Mode is turned on)

Panasonic TC-P54G25 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TC-P50G25 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TC-P46G25 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TC-P42G25 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TC-P54G20 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TC-P50G20 (48HZ Plasma)(flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Samsung PN50B860 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)

Samsung PN58B860 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)

Samsung PN50B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)(glitch)

Samsung PN58B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)(glitch)

Samsung PN63B590 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)

Samsung PN50B560 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)

Samsung PN58B560 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Cinema Smooth option is turned on)

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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***


The following is the data that was on the old list



** 1080P/24 LCD flat panel Displays with LED backlighting (List 2 of 6)**


Here is a list of HDTV displays that accepts a 1080P/24 signal for those that are interested in that feature to completely avoid any 3:2 pulldown problems.The data comes from verification from manufactories manuals,websites,magazines and other sources.

Note: only displays that have a 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, and higher refresh rates with 1080P/24 input support are included on this list. Displays that are 720P and accept a 1080P/24 input are not included on this list. Displays that are only 60Hz refresh rate and displays that incorrectly display 1080P/24 are not on the list. Displays that use a 3:2 pulldown process when a 1080P/24 signal is applied are also not included on the list.


** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version.



The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays

Important Note: Historically so far LCD's with Local Dimming LED backlighting have a better picture quality when compared to LCD's with Edge-lit LED backlighting.



LCD with Local Dimming LED backlighting (flat panel)










Toshiba 46SV670U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when ClearScan is turned off)

Toshiba 55SV670U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when ClearScan is turned off)


LCD with LED backlighting (without Local Dimming) (flat panel)





LCD with Edge-lit LED backlighting (flat panel)

LG 42SL90 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 47SL90 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

NuVision NVU40FX5LS (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU46FX5LS (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU55FX5LS (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

Samsung UN32B6000 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)























Sony KVL-40ZX1M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***


The following is the data that was on the old list




**1080P/24 LCD flat panel Displays (List 3 of 6)**

PART 1 (Brands A-R)


Here is a list of HDTV displays that accepts a 1080P/24 signal for those that are interested in that feature to completely avoid any 3:2 pulldown problems.The data comes from verification from manufactories manuals,websites,magazines and other sources.

Note: only displays that have a 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, and higher refresh rates with 1080P/24 input support are included on this list. Displays that are 720P and accept a 1080P/24 input are not included on this list. Displays that are only 60Hz refresh rate and displays that incorrectly display 1080P/24 are not on the list. Displays that use a 3:2 pulldown process when a 1080P/24 signal is applied are also not included on the list.



** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version.



The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays




Standard LCD (flat panel)

Hitachi L42S503 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Real120 Motion is off)

Hitachi L46S603 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Real120 Motion is off)

Hitachi L55S603 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Real120 Motion is off)

LG 22LU55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 26LU55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 32LF11 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 37LF11 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 42LF11 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 47LF11 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 32LH30 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 37LH30 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 42LH30 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 47LH30 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 48HZ when Real Cinema is on)

LG 32LH40 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 37LH40 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 42LH40 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 47LH40 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 55LH40 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 42LH50 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 47LH50 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 55LH50 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 37LH55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 42LH55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 47LH55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 55LH55 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 47LH85 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 55LH85 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 42SL80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 47SL80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

LG 55SL80 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on) (60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU32FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU37FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU42FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU47FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU52FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

NuVision NVU65FX5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ)

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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***


The following is the data that was on the old list



** 1080P/24 LCD flat panel Displays (List 4 of 6)**

PART 2 (Brands S-Z)


Here is a list of HDTV displays that accepts a 1080P/24 signal for those that are interested in that feature to completely avoid any 3:2 pulldown problems.The data comes from verification from manufactories manuals,websites,magazines and other sources.

Note: only displays that have a 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, and higher refresh rates with 1080P/24 input support are included on this list. Displays that are 720P and accept a 1080P/24 input are not included on this list. Displays that are only 60Hz refresh rate and displays that incorrectly display 1080P/24 are not on the list. Displays that use a 3:2 pulldown process when a 1080P/24 signal is applied are also not included on the list.



** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version.




The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays




Standard LCD (flat panel)





Samsung LN-40B610 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46B610 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52B610 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40B630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46B630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52B630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-32B640 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40B640 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46B640 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-55B640 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-32B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-37B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-55B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-65B650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40B750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 240HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46B750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 240HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52B750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 240HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

SHARP LC-40E77UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-46SB57UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C46700UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C4677UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-46E77UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-46D85U (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-46BD80UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-47SB57UT (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C52700UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C5277UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-52E77UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-52D85U (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-60E77UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C6077UN (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-65E77UM (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-C6577UM (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

Sony KDL-60EX500 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motionflow is turned off)

Sony KDL-55EX500 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motionflow is turned off)

Sony KDL-46EX500 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motionflow is turned off)

Sony KDL-40EX500 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motionflow is turned off)

Sony KDL-32EX500 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motionflow is turned off)

Toshiba 40XV640U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 46XV640U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 40XV645U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 46XV645U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 52XV645U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 40XV648U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 46XV648U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 52XV648U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 42ZV650U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 47ZV650U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 55ZV650U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

VIZIO VF550XVT1A (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO VF550M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV470XVT1A (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV420XVT1A (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV370XVT (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV320XVT (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV470M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO SV420M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO VL470M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO VL420M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO VT470M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

VIZIO VT420M (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Smooth Mode Effect is turned off)

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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***



The following is the data that was on the old list




**Discontinued 1080P/24 Displays (List 5 of 6)**


Discontinued displays that properly refresh 1080P/24 source material (Only displays that bypass the 3:2 pulldown process are included on the list)

** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version.

The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays




Front Projectors

DreamVision LCOS Front Projector (model Dreambee) (48Hz)

DreamVision LCOS Front Projector (model Dreambee 2) (72Hz)

JVC DLA-HD1 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS1 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD100 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS2 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD350 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS10U LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-HD750 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

JVC DLA-RS20U LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

Marantz VP-11S1BL DLP Front Projector (48HZ with latest firmware update)

Mitsubishi HC5000 1080P LCD Front Projector (Projection Picture Size: 50" to 300" measured diagonally) (48Hz)

Mitsubishi HC5500 1080P LCD Front Projector (48HZ)

Mitsubishi HC6000 1080P LCD Front Projector (48HZ)

Optoma HD81 Single Chip DLP front projector (48 Hz) (Works with PS3 and BDP-S300 only)

Optoma HD81-LV Single Chip DLP front projector (48 Hz) (Works with PS3 and BDP-S300 only)

PANASONIC PT-AE1000U LCD Front projector (96 Hz)

PANASONIC PT-AE2000U LCD Front projector (96HZ)

Pioneer PRO-FPJ1 LCOS Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources are refreshed at 120HZ

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-HW10 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 200" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW40 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 300" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW50 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 300" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW60 (Projection Picture Size: 40" to 300" measured diagonally) (96Hz)

Sony SXRD 1080P Front Projector VPL-VW85 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)




Rear Projectors



NuVision 52LEDLP (No Color Wheel, no rainbows,3 LEDS, power 100-240V 50/60HZ ) 72HZ

Sony KDS-60A3000 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDS-55A3000 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDS-50A3000 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 96HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)




Plasma (flat panel)

Hitachi P50X902 (48HZ Plasma)

Hitachi P50V702 (48HZ Plasma)

Hitachi P50S602 (48HZ Plasma)

Panasonic TH-58PZ800U (48HZ Plasma) (flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)

Panasonic TH-50PZ800U (48HZ Plasma) (flicker at 48Hz, click link for more details)




















Pioneer PRO-FHD1 1080P 50” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer PRO-110FD 1080P 50" Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer PRO-150FD 1080P 60" Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer PDP-5010FD 1080P 50 " Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer PDP-6010FD 1080P 60" Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-101FD 50” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-141FD 60” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD 50” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD 60” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Kuro PDP-5020FD 50” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Kuro PDP-6020FD 60” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M 50” Plasma (72HZ)

Pioneer Kuro KRP-600M 60” Plasma (72HZ)


LCD with Local Dimming LED backlighting (flat panel)



Samsung LN-55A950 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

SHARP LC-65XS1U-S (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-52XS1U-S (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

Sony KDL-55XBR8 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46XBR8 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

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*** The list of displays that support 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate is no longer being updated and has been discontinued. ***


The following is the data that was on the old list



**Discontinued 1080P/24 LCD flat panel Displays (List 6 of 6)**


Discontinued LCD flat panel displays that properly refresh 1080P/24 source material (Only displays that bypass the 3:2 pulldown process are included on the list)

** Accuracy Warning**
It is recommended one does their own research since specs can change and professional reviewers can make mistakes or receive pre-production models that have different specs from the official release version. From time to time as more information is learned about a display it can end up being removed or added to the list.

The following are all true 1920 X 1080P native Displays




Standard LCD (flat panel)








LG 47LG70 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

LG 52LG70 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)

Samsung LN-T4069F (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-T4669F (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-T4071F (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-T4671F (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-T5271F (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40A630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46A630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52A630 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40A650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46A650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52A650 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-40A750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46A750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52A750 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46A850 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52A850 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-46A860 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

Samsung LN-52A860 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off)

SHARP LC-42D85U (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ

SHARP LC-42D64U (Warning only some serial numbers and firmware versions offer 48HZ refresh)

SHARP LC-46D64U (Warning only some serial numbers and firmware versions offer 48HZ refresh)

SHARP LC-52D64U (Warning only some serial numbers and firmware versions offer 48HZ refresh)

Sony KDL-52W4100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46W4100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40W4100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46W4150 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46Z4100/B (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46Z4100/S (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40Z4100/B (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40Z4100/S (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52XBR6 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46XBR6 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40XBR6 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52XBR5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46XBR5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40XBR5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52XBR4 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46XBR4 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40XBR4 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52WL140 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52V5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46V5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40V5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-65W5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52W5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46W5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40W5100 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-52VE5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46VE5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40VE5 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-70XBR7 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-40XBR7 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-32XBR9 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Motion Enhancer is turned off)

Sony KDL-46V3000 (48HZ)

Sony KDL-40V3000 (48HZ)

Toshiba 42XV540U (120HZ) (Note: this review link is for the XF550U which uses the same 120HZ)

Toshiba 46XV540U (120HZ ) (Note: this review link is for the XF550U which uses the same 120HZ)

Toshiba 52XV540U (120HZ) (Note: this review link is for the XF550U which uses the same 120HZ)

Toshiba 42XV545U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 46XV545U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 52XV545U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 40XF550U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 46XF550U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

Toshiba 52XF550U (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Film stabilization is set to standard mode)

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After around 4 years of research into the true 24fps feature it is time for me to retire from my research


Back in 2006 when the Blu-ray format first launched most Blu-ray players did not have a 1080P/24 output option. In late October of 2006 the Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray player was released with a native 1080P/24 output option. Then around early January 2007 Pioneer released the BDP-HD1 Blu-ray player with a native 1080p/24 output. Sony and Pioneer were the first Blu-ray players that offered 1080p/24 outputs. Back in 2006 most standalone Blu-ray players including the PS3 added 3:2 pulldown and outputted 1080P at 60HZ instead of 1080P at 24HZ. In July of 2007 the Sony PlayStation 3 came out with firmware version 1.90 that added native 1080P/24 output. To my knowledge the PS3 was the only Blu-ray player that was upgradable to 1080p/24 with a firmware update. In the 4th quarter of 2007 all Blu-ray players released had 1080p/24 outputs. It took the HD-DVD format almost an entire year to start offering a few HD-DVD players with a 1080P/24 output. I use to maintain a 1080p/24 list for Blu-ray players but thanks to the fact that all Blu-ray players currently in production offer the 1080p/24 feature I was able to discontinue the Blu-ray player list long time ago.

Back in 2006 the only flat panel display that offered true 1080P quality with multiples of the original frame rate was the Pioneer Elite PRO-FHD1 50 inch plasma. That Pioneer PRO-FHD1 1080P plasma was ahead of its time in terms of picture quality and the true film quality 24fps feature. The 2006, 2007, and 2008 Pioneer models offered 72HZ plasmas that were 100% flicker free when playing native 1080p/24 Blu-ray movie discs with outstanding black levels. Even in the year 2010 there are still plasma manufactories having problems offering the 24fps feature without introducing some type of screen flicker issue. I started placing my research data from 2006 online. The “Displays that support 1080p/24 signal at multiplies of the original frame rate” started on Jan 22nd 2007 at Blu-ray.com. The only flat panel that was on the list was the 2006 Pioneer PRO-FHD1 and a few Front Projectors from JVC and Sony. Back then the list was very easy to maintain. In the fourth quarter of 2007 some Sony rear projectors and Sony LCD flat panels were added to the list. In 2008 we started seeing Samsung and many other companies added to the list. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 many new brands and models of flat panels and Front Projectors were added to the list.

Then in 2010 3-D displays were released but none were added to the list since my research data pointed to the fact the first generation 3-D displays all have 60HZ 3:2 pulldown judder for each eye when in the 3-D mode. Over the last 4 years I have spent several thousands of hours researching display technologies and the 24fps feature. Since most 120HZ and 240HZ LCD displays and other displays now offer the cinematic repeating 24fps option as a standard feature I have decided it is now time for me to discontinue this list. To be honest the list could have used more updated information in the last few months but I did not take the time to update it. Now since we are getting close to the Christmas season I have decided that it is a good time to discontinue the list. It would take me at least a 100 hours or several hundred hours to bring the list up to date with all the new brands and models of displays that offer the true 24fps feature. I do not have the time right now to spend 100 hours or more reading manuals, reviews, spec sheets, and sending letters to companies so that the list can have the most up to date information. Also the 3-D displays are much more complicated. For example 3-D displays need separate calibration for 3-D mode and anotehr calibration for 2-D mode for those that calibrate their displays. 3-D LCD HDTV’s also uses black frame insertion which really complicates the original 48fps 3-D frame rate issue (So far 60HZ for each eye in 3-D mode for both plasma and LCD flat panels).

Just because I am canceling the list does not mean that I will stop all posting of information. From time to time I may decide to post a review link with a comment about some new amazing display technology. In several years from now most likely 3-D displays will be a standard feature for all 1080P displays. Over the years the cost of 3-D displays will fall in price and most likely all 3-D models will ship without the 3-D glasses to keep prices low. Consumers that want to use their 3-D display for 3-D programs can always purchase the 3-D glasses separate when they are ready to use the 3-D feature. We may even see a 3-D glasses standard introduced where any brand and model of glasses will work on any display. Maybe even within 2 or 3 years 3-D Blu-ray players might become a standard feature on all Blu-ray players. On high-end Blu-ray players 3-D is already a standard feature for models introduced in late 2010. 3-D most likely will be a niche market where only 2 million Americans use it to watch their 3-D Blu-ray movies.

Currently the discontinued 9th generation 2008 model Pioneer PRO-141FD and PRO-101FD are the best consumer displays that Pioneer every made in terms of 2-D 1080P picture quality. As of late 2010 no consumer electronics company has been able to offer a display that matches Pioneers 2008 technology in terms of black levels and overall picture quality. There are still some plasma companies having trouble getting the 24fps feature to work correctly without producing a screen flicker issue when playing 1080P/24 material at multiplies of the original frame rate. The only reason Pioneer stopped making plasma screens is because in the year 2006, 2007, and 2008 it was not profitable to make the world’s best plasma screens (Not enough sells). My hope is that some company in the years to come would develop a display that would be able to beat the 9th generation Pioneer displays in terms of overall 2-D picture quality. Hopefully future 3-D displays will also bypass the 3:2 pulldown process for each eye and offer true 72HZ or higher refresh rate for each eye to match the quality of 3-D movies shown in the theater. Movie theaters that display 3-D films at 2K quality use a minimum of 144fps (Each eye receives 72fps in the movie theater for flicker free high quality 3-D).

Right now all the high-end consumer HD displays are 3-D models and in the future several years from now maybe 3-D will become a standard feature on all 1080P displays. If and when 3-D consumer displays start offering the 3-D multiplies of 48HZ frame rate without 3:2 pulldown I might if I have time create a new list called something like “Displays that support the multiplies of the original 3-D and 2-D Cinema frame rate”. It would be easier to maintain a list if the high-end displays started offering the 3-D frame rate feature, then as the years go on more and more companies would most likely start offering the 3-D frame rate feature until the list takes too many hours to maintain.

I am glad there are so many brands and models of displays on the market that offer the 2-D 1080P 24fps original frame rate feature. The average consumer can go to Walmart now and choose between several brands and models of 120HZ LCD’s with a 5:5 pulldown option for under $1,000. With so many brands and models of true 24fps displays on the market it makes it difficult to keep the list current. With no more list, one will need to do their own research now.


Information for those doing their own research on displays


1. 3-D displays currently use 3:2 pulldown judder for each eye in 3-D mode. Most 3-D displays have a menu option to display 2-D 1080P/24 material at multiples of 24fps.

2. Most 120HZ and 240HZ LCD displays will properly display 24fps material using the repeating frame method when the motion feature is turned off. Some consumers like the motion feature on since it creates new frames using frame interpolation technology and it makes film based material look like smooth video. Frame interpolation makes film based material look artificial but there is a strong growing movement among consumers to use frame interpolation since some people love the look of video. For the film purist turning frame interpolation off is ideal.

3. The menus and options for displays keep getting more complicated every year. Sometimes instruction manuals are clear and describe in detail how to setup a display. Other times many HDTV and display manuals are poorly written and they do not describe in detail how the display functions regarding the 24fps feature.

4. Some of the best research data can be found in magazines like Widescreen Review, Home Theater magazine, UltimateAVmag.com, Sound and Vision magazine, and other publications. Many times the true 24fps information can be found in professional reviews. Only sometimes spec sheets and manuals mention the 24fps feature.

5. I have always said several times over the last 4 years that Black levels, ANSI contrast ratios, shadow detail, and screen resolution are more important features on a display in terms of picture quality. The true 24fps feature has always been a minor feature when compared to some other features. When watching Blu-ray movies that contain camera pans one will see the picture quality improvement when the 3:2 pulldown process is bypassed. In the year 2010 there are so many displays that display 24fps like a film projector that I would recommend all consumers make sure the display they are buying offers the feature. The true 24fps feature can be found on displays under $1,000. Many displays under $500 will be missing the true 24fps feature.

The following are valuable links to where professional reviews on future displays will be posted. Over the years I did most my quoting from the following 4 publications when posting review summaries:

Click here for the Home Theater magazine website for the latest reviews

Click here for the Ultimate AV magazine website for the latest reviews

Click here for the Sound and Vision website for the latest reviews

Click here for the Widescreen Review magazine website for the latest reviews

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Samsung PN58C7000 Plasma 3D HDTV (November 2010 Home Theater magazine review)



3:2 pulldown judder at 60HZ is used for each eye in 3-D mode


In the November 2010 Home Theater magazine on pages 64-66 is a review on the Samsung PN58C7000 Plasma 3D HDTV. For 2-D 1080P/24 material the Samsung PN58C7000 will properly display images at 96Hz just like a LCOS digital projector in the movie theater. What is disappointing about the Samsung PN58C7000 Plasma is that when watching 3-D Blu-ray movies the display will add 6:4 pulldown judder at 120HZ (Also called 3:2 pulldown judder at 60HZ for each eye). The Samsung 2010 technology does not have as good as black levels when compared to a discontinued 2008 model Pioneer plasma.

I realize that all first generation 3-D plasma and 3-D LCD HDTV’s add 3:2 pulldown judder for each eye in 3-D mode. Hopefully second or third generation 3-D HDTV’s will bypass the 3:2 pulldown process and offer 72HZ for each eye in 3-D mode. In a movie theater that uses 2K digital projectors the 3-D films are flashed on the screen at a minimum of 144fps (72HZ for each eye). Hopefully in the future we will start to see consumer displays being released that offer similar 3-D quality.

** If Samsung one day in the future could improve their black level performance to at least match the 2008 Pioneer plasmas and also offer a 144fps or higher frame rate for 3-D mode then Samsung could become the technology leader in flat screen picture quality **


The following are select word for word quotes from the November 2010 Home Theater magazine


“With 24p 2D source material, the Samsung operates at a refresh rate of 96 hertz, flashing each frame four times. It doesn’t offer interpolation, but you don’t need it with a plasma display. With 60p material (or material that has been up-converted to 60p), it operates at 60 Hz. With 24p 3D material, it applies 3:2 pulldown to the source, converts it to 60p, and then displays it at 60 Hz at each eye.”

“When I calibrated the Samsung, it noticeably improved matters. The 7000’s black level and shadow detail still never blew me away. Exposure to local-dimming LCD sets (my resident Pioneer Kuro reference and projectors with pristine blacks such as the JVCs) have spoiled me too much for that. Subjectively, the black level and shadow detail were still very good, and our measurements back this up”

“I’m still looking for state-of-the-art black levels from today’s plasmas.”

http://hometheatermag.com/3d-flat-pa...tv/index1.html

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Sony BRAVIA XBR-52HX909 LCD 3D HDTV (November 2010 review link)


Still no 3-D consumer displays with 72fps for each eye yet. The Sony XBR-52HX909 LCD screen will properly display 2-D material like a movie theater projector at 240HZ (10:10 pulldown) when Motionflow is off (repeating frame method just like 100% of all movie theaters). For 3-D material the Sony XBR-52HX909 most likely uses 60HZ for each eye with black frame insertion (Widescreen review claims 48HZ for each eye which needs to be verified by another source http://forum.blu-ray.com/3850776-post919.html ). In the movie theaters at least 72fps is used for each eye for high quality 3-D motion without any 3:2 pulldown judder. Hopefully in the years to come maybe some consumer electronics companies might release 3-D consumer displays with 72fps or higher frame rate for each eye without black frame insertion to provide the highest quality 1080P 3-D home theater experience. Plasma displays do not add black frames for 3-D mode but until LCD displays improve their response time black frames will be needed for LCD 3-D mode. All existing first generation plasma 3-D displays use 60Hz 3:2 pulldown for each eye in 3-D mode, hopefully that will change in the future.

The following are a few select quotes from the Home Theater magazine review link on the Sony XBR-52HX909

Motionflow is Sony’s 240-hertz, motion-blur-reducing feature. When engaged (in 2D), Motionflow adds nine interpolated frames to each real frame of a 1080p/24 source to bring the onscreen refresh rate up to 240 Hz. With a 1080p/60 source, it adds three interpolated frames to reach the magic 240 Hz. If the source is 1080i/30, the Sony deinterlaces it to 1080p/60 prior to interpolation. If Motionflow is off, the added frames are still required, but they are repeated, not interpolated.”

“I don’t like what these motion-smoothing features (Sony’s or anyone else’s) do to the look of film, so I left it off.”

Nearly invisible black bars weren’t the only benefit from the Sony’s local dimming. As long as LED Dynamic Control was set to Standard mode, both black level and shadow detail were consistently outstanding on virtually everything I watched.”

Local dimming has one obvious weakness, and not just in Sony sets: soft halos surrounding bright objects against very dark backgrounds.”


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Vizio XVT553SV LCD HDTV

Vizio displays with 240Hz effect add 3:2 pulldown to 1080P/24 sources


If I was still maintaining the list the so called 240Hz Vizio displays would not make the list because they add 3:2 pulldown to 24fps sources. 1080P/24 material is converted to 60HZ and then the Vizio XVT553SV displays the image at 120HZ by using frame interpolation or repeating frame method depeding on the menu settings.The main issue is the Vizio adds 3:2 pulldown judder instead of doing a true 5:5: pulldown to maintain the natural look of film according to the review.

** The Vizio 120HZ displays with a 240HZ effect contain SPS Smooth Motion Control and convert 1080p/24 material to 60HZ by adding 3:2 pulldown judder. **

The Vizio displays with the so called 240Hz SPS Smooth Motion Control are really 120HZ displays with a 240HZ effect since only the back light operates at 240HZ and the true refresh rates of the set are really 120HZ. So far only Samsung and Sony offer true 240HZ refresh rates for flat panels (10:10 pulldown). Other brands that mention 240HZ are 120HZ refresh rate with a 240HZ effect.

The following are select word for word quotes from the November 2010 Home Theater magazine review

“The Smooth Motion control, or to use Vizio’s full designation, 240Hz SPS Smooth Motion, is also located in the Advanced Picture menu. This feature’s Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation (ME/MC) algorithm operates at the set’s true refresh rate of 120 hertz; backlight scanning gives this a 240-Hz effect. The Vizio interpolates the extra frames it needs to bring the source frame rate up to the set’s refresh rate when Smooth Motion is on; it simply repeats frames when Smooth Motion is off. Unfortunately, the set doesn’t display 24-fps material directly (or at a direct multiple of 24 fps) but first converts it to 60 Hz by adding 3:2 pulldown.

http://hometheatermag.com/flat-panel...dtv/index.html

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Anyone know if the Samsung LN-40C650 supports true 24p?
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Anyone know if the Samsung LN-40C650 supports true 24p?
All 2-D 120Hz Samsung displays with Auto Motion Plus offer true 24fps at multiplies of the original frame rate. The Samsung LN-40C650 has a true 5:5 pulldown mode when Auto Motion plus is turned off. When a Blu-ray movie outputs 1080p/24 and the Auto Motion Plus is set to off, then any Samsung 120Hz display will repeat the original 24 frames, 5 times to reach the sets native refresh rate of 120Hz. This will give you a natural film quality look and the full benefit of Blu-ray. Now if you turn Auto Motion Plus on it will create new frames by using frame interpolation to reach 120Hz. Frame interpolation has a artificial smooth video look instead of a film type of look. Film fans that want the original look of 24fps leave Auto Motion Plus turned off on the Samsung's that offer that feature.
See page 19 in the Samsung LN-40C650 owners manual for more details about Auto motion Plus. If I was still updating the list which I am not, the Samsung LN-40C650 would be on the list.

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Old 02-01-2011, 11:48 AM   #934
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The Titan Reference projector is the first 1080P 3-D consumer display with Cinema quality 144fps



($84,995 list price)


Finally a consumer display has been released that will offer true 3-D 1080P quality at multiplies of the original 3-D frame rate. The Titan Reference Front Projector is capable of a 144HZ (72HZ each eye) when connected to a source that outputs full bandwidth 1080P over a dual link DVI connection. 3-D Blu-ray players use a single HDMI connection with 1080P frame packing technology instead of dual link DVI 1080P full bandwidth technology. With the use of a HDMI to DVI adapter any Blu-ray player can be connected to the Titan. This 1080P 3-D Titan Reference projector movie quality is almost as good as a IMAX 3-D theater. The best IMAX 3-D movie theaters use two 2K Digital projectors to produce a 2K 3-D image on the screen. In the home owning two Front Projectors is too expensive and difficult to setup for most consumers. In the future hopefully there will be some 144fps 3-D 1080P Front Projectors under $20,000. Maybe even one day a affordable 4K Front Projector will be released for the consumer electronics market.

The following are select word for word quotes from pages 49 and 52 of the January 2011 Widescreen Review magazine

“The problem, or the challenge with most displays, is if you want to do an interval of 24p @ 60Hz, then you start to see 3-2 pulldown or something similar to that when you try to equate it to 3D. So what we actually do is we triple-flash. That’s the same thing they do at cinemas. We run at 144 Hz: left eye 72, right eye 72, so that it’s an even interval of 24, so that you won’t have any disparities. I guess what it would be – the same thing when you have regular 24p @ 60 or you have a 3-2 and you have potential for jitter or something. We don’t have that because we’re operating at a higher speed.”

“Well, our front-end electronics can handle any of the HDMI 1.4 standards, which would be top-bottom, left-right, sequential, or frame packed. From an electronics point of view, we can handle all of that. In addition, we can handle separate left and right eye, which actually would be kind of future proof for even higher bandwidth because there’s no restriction at all there. Then the next element becomes the actual display portion of it, which would be, do you want to use passive glasses, active glasses, active/passive, circular polarization, linear polarization? There are so many different possibilities there. We literally designed our Titan Reference projector so that it would be capable of doing all of those. It would interface with all the additional hardware to do any of those capabilities with a single projector, not a two-projector solution.”


The following are select word for word quotes from the September 2010 Home Theater magazine review


“The projector, together with any lens, lists for $84,995. Setup and delivery costs are between you and your installer.”

“The projector employs two separate, 300-watt Mercury lamps that are filtered to produce a Xenon-like color balance. The lamps are rated for 2,000 hours, and replacements cost $1,195 each.”

“The bottom line is that the Titan’s overall contrast ratio and black levels are impressive considering the exceptional peak white levels the projector offers.”

“3D from the Titan on our screen was as bright as I’ve ever seen it. In fact, it was enough to compete handily with what you’ll see from a huge, two-projector IMAX 3D presentation. It was bright enough to give the picture rewarding punch, but not so bright as to generate viewing fatigue.”


“The Digital Projection Titan had issues, primarily limitations in getting a full-resolution 3D image from the range of Blu-ray 3D players and discs we had on hand. True, buyers who have the resources to own one will have to be patient while Digital Projection smooths out the ergonomics and issues with the Blu-ray 3D players coming to market. Once it does, there will be no better way to get killer 3D into your home. When all the stars are aligned—which wasn’t all that hard on most of the Blu-ray 3D Discs we tried—the results are eye-popping. I’ve never seen 3D look any better than the 3D I saw from the Titan projector.”

“Digital Projection is working overtime to address these issues and has been releasing regular firmware updates. To be fair, while this projector has been available with 3D capabilities for about a year, it’s only recently that consumer 3D sources—Blu-ray 3D Discs and players—have been available to enable testing on a more real-world source than 3D from a computer server.”



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January 2011 Sound and Vision magazine (Panasonic TC-L42D2 LCD HDTV review)


Panasonic is now offering true 5:5 pulldown on their new 1080P LCD screens


Panasonic 120Hz flat panel LCD’s with the “Motion Picture Pro 4” feature will properly display 1080p/24 source material like a film projectror in the movie theater when “Motion Picture Pro 4” is turned off in the menu. It is a excellent feature to see Panasonic LCD screens offer true 5:5 pulldown for those consumers that watch a lot of Blu-ray movies. Panasonic LCD screens also offer excellent off axis performance when compared to other LCD screens on the market. The Panasonic 120HZ 1080P LCD screens are available in 37 inch and 42 inch sizes (TC-L37D2, TC-L42D2). The TC-L37D2 and TC-L42D2 have LED edge-lighting technology with deeper black levels compared to standard LCD screens.


The following are select word for word quotes from the January 2011 Sound and Vision magazine review link

I left 120Hz Motion Picture Pro 4 switched off for all movies and most TV watching. (If you supply the TC-L42D2 with a 24p source — from Blu-ray, for ex- ample — it will multiply these frames without any other processing in Off mode, resulting in a judder- free image that looks much better than 24p material displayed on a 60-Hz TV.)”

Off-axis performance is excellent — almost as good as plasma. The TC-L42D2's black level goes up slightly when you move away from the center of the screen, but it's vastly better here than with most other LCDs.”

“The Panasonic TC-L42D2 offers a bright picture, great color, a decent contrast ratio, and fantastic off-axis viewing (for an LCD).”

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/content/test-report-panasonic-tc-l42d2-lcd-hdtv

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P View Post
All 2-D 120Hz Samsung displays with Auto Motion Plus offer true 24fps at multiplies of the original frame rate. The Samsung LN-40C650 has a true 5:5 pulldown mode when Auto Motion plus is turned off. When a Blu-ray movie outputs 1080p/24 and the Auto Motion Plus is set to off, then any Samsung 120Hz display will repeat the original 24 frames, 5 times to reach the sets native refresh rate of 120Hz. This will give you a natural film quality look and the full benefit of Blu-ray. Now if you turn Auto Motion Plus on it will create new frames by using frame interpolation to reach 120Hz. Frame interpolation has a artificial smooth video look instead of a film type of look. Film fans that want the original look of 24fps leave Auto Motion Plus turned off on the Samsung's that offer that feature.
See page 19 in the Samsung LN-40C650 owners manual for more details about Auto motion Plus. If I was still updating the list which I am not, the Samsung LN-40C650 would be on the list.

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Thanks for the response. Turning off auto-motion plus was the first thing I did with the TV, I hate the effect of all faster than necessary refresh rates on TVs nowadays.
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Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 9700 UB LCD 1080P Front Projector


The Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 2-D 1080P Front Projector will properly display 1080p/24 signals at 96HZ just like a digital projector in the cinemas.


The following are select quotes from pages 56 and 57 of the March 2011 Home Theater magazine


“Frame interpolation is also one of those features that consumers seem to both love and hate. I side with the haters, as I like my movies to look like movies and not daytime soap operas.”

“While I didn’t engage any interpolation features, I did engage 4:4 pulldown. With 1080p/24 signals, 4:4 pulldown flashes each frame four times for a total refresh rate of 96 hertz. This maintains the natural look of film while reducing flicker.”

“With frame interpolation engaged, the Epson interpolates these added frames instead of simple repeating them. With frame interpolation engaged with a 60-Hz source (which includes interlaced sources after the Epson has deinterlaced them), the Epson adds a single interpolated frame to each real frame for a total refresh rate of 120 Hz.”

http://www.hometheater.com/content/e...-lcd-projector

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LG 50PX950 Plasma (THX 3D Certified with Poor black level)

The LG PX950 series is the first set to receive 3D certification. Since all 3D movies in the movie theater use a minimum of 144fps (72fps each eye) one would hope THX 3D certification would include 144HZ with no 3:2 pulldown judder as a requirement. But instead 3D THX certification allows sets to use 3:2 pulldown for each eye in 3D mode and according to the Home Theater review the PX950 series has , “Poor black levels”.

Select quotes from the March 2011 Home Theater magazine review located on pages 52-55

“The PX950 series is the first set to receive THX 3D certification. Before you argue that there are already 3D models on the market that carry the THX seal of approval, I’ll note that those sets were certified only for their 2D performance. With the PX950 series, THX adds its imprimatur for 3D.”

“The LG’s blacks were problematic. I know we constantly point out that plasmas can beat LCD’s in the reproduction of blacks and shadow detail. But not here. The LG’s performance in this area was far less impressive than we’ve seen from new Panasonic and Samsung plasmas.”

“In particular, if you own a late-model Pioneer KURO and are thinking about a replacement for a move up to 3D, you won’t be happy with the 50PX950.”

http://www.hometheater.com/content/l...3d-plasma-hdtv

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Panasonic 1080P GT25 Plasma series (48 HZ flicker issue)


The black levels of the Panasonic GT25 series are not as good as the 9th generation Pioneer 2008 Kuro’s according to the Home Theater magazine review.

According to the March 2011 Home Theater magazine review, the Panasonic GT25 has a flicker issue at the 48HZ setting with 2D 1080p/24 sources. I am still surprised Panasonic offers the 48HZ setting since many professional reviews keep mentioning a “unwatchable flicker” or “flicker issue” when the display is set at 48HZ while watching Blu-ray movies. Of course most people own a DVD player and only a small percentage of the population owns a Blu-ray player. Only people that own a Blu-ray player or use 1080p/24 source material would notice a flicker at 48Hz. Another mystery is why Panasonic did not offer a 96HZ 2D 1080P setting to reduce or eliminate the flicker issue? The GT25 has a vertical refresh range of 48HZ-120HZ. According to the Home Theater magazine review when the GT25 series is set to 60HZ the display will add 3-2 pulldown for each eye and refresh a 3-D frame packed 1080P/24 image at 120HZ. One interesting thing about this review is that it makes the claim that the Panasonic GT25 will refresh 3D 1080P material at 96HZ when the 48HZ setting is turned on. If this is true that means each eye would see 48Hz without 3:2 pulldown. The review claims that there is no flicker at 96HZ when each eye is really seeing 48HZ in 3-D mode. The possible reason for this no flicker or reduced flicker at 48HZ could be the reduced brightness while using 3-D glasses and the effect of LCD shutter technology. Even if the Panasonic GT25 offers 96fps (48Hz each eye) in 3-D mode, that is still below the quality of the 3-D digital cinema projectors that offer a minimum of 144fps (72HZ each eye). Hopefully future Panasonic 3-D plasmas will improve on the 3-D quality by offering a 144HZ setting when in 3-D mode. Pioneer left the plasma business in April 2009, but all their 1080P plasmas since 2006 displayed 2-D 1080P material at 72HZ. Most likely if Pioneer was still in the plasma business they would have most likely offered a plasma that played Blu-ray 3-D at 144HZ just like the IMAX 3-D digital projectors.

The following are select quotes from the March 2011 Home Theater magazine review located on pages 68-70

“A Direct In control offers a fixed 60-hertz setting for video-based material and a choice of 60 Hz or 48 Hz for film –originated sources. With 2D 1080p/24 programming, the 48-Hz option flashes each 24-fps (Hz) frame twice, with no 3-2 pulldown. At 60 Hz, it converts a 24-Hz source to 60 Hz using 3-2 pulldown.”

“For a 3D source, each eye sees only half of a 3D display’s total refresh rate. With the Direct In control set to 60 Hz, the refresh rate is 60 Hz for each eye, but the set’s total refresh rate is 120 Hz. If the source is 24 Hz, and the control is set to 60 Hz, the set first converts the 24 Hz to 60 Hz by adding 3:2 pulldown. If the source is 24 Hz and the Direct In Control is set to 48 Hz, the refresh rate is 48 Hz for each eye, for a total 3D refresh rate of 96 Hz.”

“The more upmarket VT25 models offer a 96-Hz refresh rate option for 2-D, in which each 24-Hz frame flashes four times. The GT25s do not. The lack of a 2D 96-Hz refresh rate is the GT25’s most significant technical disadvantage. I used the 60-Hz setting for my 2D playback on this set. For me, the flicker in the 48-Hz setting was more distracting than any visible 3-2 pulldown artifacts caused by the conversion to 60 Hz. I didn’t see flicker in the 48-Hz setting with 3D sources.”

“The only HD displays that can do noticeably better blacks than this Panasonic are a very few projectors, the best LCDs with LED locally dimmed backlighting, and the last generation of the now discontinued Pioneer KUROs.”

http://www.hometheater.com/content/p...3d-plasma-hdtv

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144fps or higher would be ideal for Home 3-D displays

A film projector has a minimum of 48Hz refresh rate at the local Cinema when watching 2-D material. A digital projector setup in local 3-D Cinemas has a minimum of 144HZ refresh rate (72HZ per each eye).

The home Front Projectors with 48Hz refresh rate are generally flicker free. Some flat screen displays that offer 48HZ refresh rate have an unwatchable flicker or flicker issue since the screen is a lot brighter compared to a Front Projector and film projector located in the Cinema. For a flat screen display a minimum of 72HZ is needed to display 1080p/24 flicker free at multiplies of the original frame rate.

When it comes to Front Projectors in the home a minimum of 144HZ is ideal to produce the same 3-D frame quality as the local 3-D Cinema. Flat screen displays should offer a minimum of 144HZ in 3-D mode, some very bright flat screens may need to have 192HZ (96HZ each eye) to get rid of flicker issues in 3-D. What complicates the issue is the type of 3-D glasses technology being used.

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