Patton is Phenomenal!!! - Blu-ray Forum

cam555 · 06-09-2008, 04:14 AM

So I just bought Patton on BD and I gotta say this is prolly the best blu ray i've ever seen...and i have about 100 bd's. the video quality for a 70s movie makes our newer movies look 2nd best. i urge everyone to go out and buy it. its absolutely mesmerizing to watch. and the dts hd ma track is great for a movie thats over 30 yrs old. wow...just awesome!

Patton Blu-ray Remastered Nov 6, 2012

Patton Blu-ray

Patton Blu-ray Review

Patton 40th Anniversary Blu-ray DigiBook

BluRay2344 · 06-09-2008, 04:37 AM

yeah i recently watched the movie, 1st time i saw it and i was blown away by how good it was! i cant wait to buy it on bluray!

cam555 · 06-09-2008, 04:41 AM

im telling ya....its my top blu ray for video quality....and i have apocolypto and die hard 4 and all kinds...and its better than those!

theprophecy247 · 06-09-2008, 05:19 AM

waiting for a cheap price on this movie

aiman04 · 06-09-2008, 06:00 AM

A lot old movies were shot using 70mm Panavision. So if well preserved, it will easily beat any recent movies which mostly shot on 35mm, Panavision or Super35.

supersix4 · 06-09-2008, 06:06 AM

agreed watching the 2 tape vhs/ dvd is like night and day compared to the blu-ray ... this is an amazing job done by fox and if every movie was done like it, blu-ray would have probly beaten every format out.... amazing movie! thank gosh for the level of care given to such a classic

jw · 06-09-2008, 06:11 AM

I gotta watch it, just havent had the time

AaronSCH · 06-09-2008, 06:18 AM

Not trying to be a jerk, but when we create a thread, it takes seconds to use the spell check. It would make everyone posting in these threads look a little smarter. The word is "phenomenal." Just a suggestion since it seems to be happening with some frequency.

Oh and yes, Patton looks amazing on Blu-ray. Fox did a terrific job.

Midnightsailor · 06-09-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronSCH

Not trying to be a jerk, but when we create a thread, it takes seconds to use the spell check. It would make everyone posting in these threads look a little smarter. The word is "phenomenal." Just a suggestion since it seems to be happening with some frequency.

Oh and yes, Patton looks amazing on Blu-ray. Fox did a terrific job.

ha..

diamondfoxxx · 06-09-2008, 09:44 AM

Even the screen cap posted here look good as any new movie. Nice work fox!

mhafner · 06-09-2008, 10:07 AM

The Patton HD looks like a soft video game, for Christ's sake!
A plastic concoction devoid of any resemblance to the original film!
No wonder that appeals to people who think that everything should look hyperclean and with all grain and texture removed. Hello, haven't you noticed that all fine detail is gone?
That it does not look like a film from the 70s anymore?
Patton is a text book example of how classic films should not be mastered for HD because they are no longer films this way but something entirely different. A filtered to death video.
Does 70mm film look like this?
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton1.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton2.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton3.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton4.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton5.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton6.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton7.png
No! Not at all! Thumbs way down for this revisionist version of Patton.

Jim L · 06-09-2008, 10:27 AM

I watched it Saturday night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the best presentation of Patton I have ever seen.

I watched it on my 60" SXRD rear projection at a distance of about 4.5 PH's (Picture-Height).

However -- the experts are up in arms about this release because of the heavy use of DNR (digital noise reduction) which they claim has smoothed over the picture and removed a lot of film grain and high frequency detail. These are folks who are experts in the area of film (Robert Harris and others) and this is when viewed on a front projection system at ~110" viewed at 2 PH's or less.

Most average Joes like us will not notice this problem, so I say don't let it stop you from buying it if you like this film. This is the best it has ever looked on home video format, and it will likely be many, many years before Fox will ever revisit this transfer.

NutsAboutPS3 · 06-09-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhafner

Does 70mm film look like this?
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton1.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton2.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton3.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton4.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton5.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton6.png
http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton7.png
No! Not at all! Thumbs way down for this revisionist version of Patton.

The links have got messed up in your copying and pasting somewhere - could you edit them? I'd quite like to see how it looks.

Of course static screen shots can't fully show the effects of temporal filtering, you can only truly see the mess they make of some movies with that when you see moving images.

Beta-guy · 06-09-2008, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim L

I watched it Saturday night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the best presentation of Patton I have ever seen.

I watched it on my 60" SXRD rear projection at a distance of about 3 PH's (Picture-Height).

However -- the experts are up in arms about this release because of the heavy use of DNR (digital noise reduction) which they claim has smoothed over the picture and removed a lot of film grain and high frequency detail. These are folks who are experts in the area of film (Robert Harris and others) and this is when viewed on a front projection system at ~110" viewed at 2 PH's or less.

Most average Joes like us will not notice this problem, so I say don't let it stop you from buying it if you like this film. This is the best it has ever looked on home video format, and it will likely be many, many years before Fox will ever revisit this transfer.

I was looking at the screenshots, and I thought that looked wonderful, if they can remove the grain while keeping the detail and sharp picture then I'm all for it, that said I think that even if they do digital noise reduction, grain should still be there, some how it does look like something is missing even though the pictures look great. I'll be sure to pick up a copy of this during the week.

patrick99 · 06-09-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim L

I watched it Saturday night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the best presentation of Patton I have ever seen.

I watched it on my 60" SXRD rear projection at a distance of about 3 PH's (Picture-Height).

However -- the experts are up in arms about this release because of the heavy use of DNR (digital noise reduction) which they claim has smoothed over the picture and removed a lot of film grain and high frequency detail. These are folks who are experts in the area of film (Robert Harris and others) and this is when viewed on a front projection system at ~110" viewed at 2 PH's or less.

Most average Joes like us will not notice this problem, so I say don't let it stop you from buying it if you like this film. This is the best it has ever looked on home video format, and it will likely be many, many years before Fox will ever revisit this transfer.

It doesn't require a 110" display to see the problems here, but a reasonably close viewing distance may be needed.

alphadec · 06-09-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam555

So I just bought Patton on BD and I gotta say this is prolly the best blu ray i've ever seen...and i have about 100 bd's. the video quality for a 70s movie makes our newer movies look 2nd best. i urge everyone to go out and buy it. its absolutely mesmerizing to watch. and the dts hd ma track is great for a movie thats over 30 yrs old. wow...just awesome!

I would get it if it was'nt for fox and there region coding

buckshot · 06-09-2008, 11:33 AM

glad i ordered it for my dad then. was going to get him the 3 pack since he likes the longest day and pebbles, but his bday and father's day are 2 days apart so i can't do the "hey your present is not here yet, but i got you something."

cawgijoe · 06-09-2008, 01:31 PM

F the "experts".....I hate film grain....if they can make the picture look better without introducing artifacts, I'm all for it.

SP@Z. · 06-09-2008, 01:32 PM

At first I thought it said Platoon, and I was like holy crap when did that come out in blu-ray haha. Then I saw "70s movie" and noticed it said Patton haha. But I shall check it out.

Entertainment72 · 06-09-2008, 03:58 PM

Long live DNR.. grain is garbage.. grain will never be welcomed if at all possible in my home. I have an old sony vcr if I ever wanted grain I could use. Patton will move to my top 3 to purchase now due to dnr..

06-09-2008, 04:14 AM	#1
cam555 Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:58	Patton is Phenomenal!!! So I just bought Patton on BD and I gotta say this is prolly the best blu ray i've ever seen...and i have about 100 bd's. the video quality for a 70s movie makes our newer movies look 2nd best. i urge everyone to go out and buy it. its absolutely mesmerizing to watch. and the dts hd ma track is great for a movie thats over 30 yrs old. wow...just awesome! Patton Blu-ray Remastered Nov 6, 2012 Patton Blu-ray Patton Blu-ray Review Patton 40th Anniversary Blu-ray DigiBook 52" XBR4 Emotiva XPA 5, XPA 2, and UMC1 Klipsch Synergy III 7.2 F3's, C3, 2 Pairs of S3's, and 2 Klipsch 12" subs PS3 120Gb Last edited by Deciazulado; 09-13-2012 at 01:36 PM.

06-09-2008, 04:37 AM	#2
BluRay2344 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2006 Location:West Hartford, CT Blu-ray collection:201 PS3 collection:21 Blu-ray reviews:9	yeah i recently watched the movie, 1st time i saw it and i was blown away by how good it was! i cant wait to buy it on bluray! PS3 IS THE ULTIMATE HD MACHINE PSN I.D - Nas2344 RX-V473 5.1 CH AV RECEIVER Samsung UN46D6400 Energy Take 5.1 classic sorround

06-09-2008, 04:41 AM	#3
cam555 Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:58	im telling ya....its my top blu ray for video quality....and i have apocolypto and die hard 4 and all kinds...and its better than those! 52" XBR4 Emotiva XPA 5, XPA 2, and UMC1 Klipsch Synergy III 7.2 F3's, C3, 2 Pairs of S3's, and 2 Klipsch 12" subs PS3 120Gb

06-09-2008, 05:19 AM	#4
theprophecy247 Special Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Shadow Moses Islands Blu-ray collection:42 Blu-ray reviews:5	waiting for a cheap price on this movie Panasonic 42' Viera TH-42PZ700U (room) Mitsubishi WD-65733 (Family Room) 40 GB PS3 50 BD's Slider: Goose who's butt did you kiss to get in here anyway? Goose: Well, the list is long, but distinguished. Slider: Yeah, well so is my Johnson.

06-09-2008, 06:00 AM	#5
aiman04 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Kuala Lumpur, MY Blu-ray collection:275 PS3 collection:5	A lot old movies were shot using 70mm Panavision. So if well preserved, it will easily beat any recent movies which mostly shot on 35mm, Panavision or Super35. *Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.* The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread \| SONY PS3 \| ONKYO TX-SR707 \| PANASONIC TH-50PY800H \| \| KEF iQ9 iQ6c HTS2001 \| VELODYNE CHT-10R \| \| QED XT-400 \| LOGITECH HARMONY ONE + PS3 ADAPTER \|

06-09-2008, 06:06 AM	#6
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:570 PS3 collection:77 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Hardware reviews:1 Trading Score:2	agreed watching the 2 tape vhs/ dvd is like night and day compared to the blu-ray ... this is an amazing job done by fox and if every movie was done like it, blu-ray would have probly beaten every format out.... amazing movie! thank gosh for the level of care given to such a classic

06-09-2008, 06:11 AM	#7
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:475	I gotta watch it, just havent had the time

06-09-2008, 06:18 AM	#8
AaronSCH Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Home of SB 1070 Blu-ray collection:535 Trading Score:1	Not trying to be a jerk, but when we create a thread, it takes seconds to use the spell check. It would make everyone posting in these threads look a little smarter. The word is "phenomenal." Just a suggestion since it seems to be happening with some frequency. Oh and yes, Patton looks amazing on Blu-ray. Fox did a terrific job. “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Gandhi

06-09-2008, 09:44 AM	#10
diamondfoxxx Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:San Francisco Blu-ray collection:45 Blu-ray reviews: 36	Even the screen cap posted here look good as any new movie. Nice work fox!

06-09-2008, 10:07 AM	#11
mhafner Banned Member since:Jul 2007	The Patton HD looks like a soft video game, for Christ's sake! A plastic concoction devoid of any resemblance to the original film! No wonder that appeals to people who think that everything should look hyperclean and with all grain and texture removed. Hello, haven't you noticed that all fine detail is gone? That it does not look like a film from the 70s anymore? Patton is a text book example of how classic films should not be mastered for HD because they are no longer films this way but something entirely different. A filtered to death video. Does 70mm film look like this? http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton1.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton2.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton3.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton4.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton5.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton6.png http://home.comcast.net/~m_paliulis/...es/patton7.png No! Not at all! Thumbs way down for this revisionist version of Patton. Last edited by mhafner; 06-10-2008 at 10:50 AM.

06-09-2008, 10:27 AM	#12
Jim L Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2006 Location:The Piedmont, NC Blu-ray reviews: 9 Hardware reviews:2 Trading Score:19	According to the experts, it could be better! I watched it Saturday night and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the best presentation of Patton I have ever seen. I watched it on my 60" SXRD rear projection at a distance of about 4.5 PH's (Picture-Height). *However* -- the experts are up in arms about this release because of the heavy use of DNR (digital noise reduction) which they claim has smoothed over the picture and removed a lot of film grain and high frequency detail. These are folks who are experts in the area of film (Robert Harris and others) and this is when viewed on a front projection system at ~110" viewed at 2 PH's or less. Most average Joes like us will not notice this problem, so I say don't let it stop you from buying it if you like this film. This is the best it has ever looked on home video format, and it will likely be many, many years before Fox will ever revisit this transfer. Oppo BDP-103 \| Pioneer Elite SC-55 \| Hsu VTF3 MK4 \| Panasonic TC-P65VT30 \| Harmony 880 \| Sony VPL-HW15 SXRD projector \| 106" Da-Lite HCMW Screen Last edited by Jim L; 06-09-2008 at 12:23 PM. Reason: Note: corrected viewing distance

06-09-2008, 11:33 AM	#17
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	glad i ordered it for my dad then. was going to get him the 3 pack since he likes the longest day and pebbles, but his bday and father's day are 2 days apart so i can't do the "hey your present is not here yet, but i got you something." the avatar is my grandpa 1912-2006 56'' samsung dlp (1080p), ps3, oppo dv-980h, onkyo sr605, jbl, polk & onkyo speakers, acoustech h100 & velodyne vx-10 subs (7.1), *200+ BDs, about 40 sacds, dualdiscs, dvd-a's, & a comfy couch. bedroom:* 32'' vizio, BA TVee system & ps3

06-09-2008, 01:31 PM	#18
cawgijoe Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:1	F the "experts".....I hate film grain....if they can make the picture look better without introducing artifacts, I'm all for it.

06-09-2008, 01:32 PM	#19
SP@Z. Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray reviews:6	At first I thought it said Platoon, and I was like holy crap when did that come out in blu-ray haha. Then I saw "70s movie" and noticed it said Patton haha. But I shall check it out.

06-09-2008, 03:58 PM	#20
Entertainment72 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Myers, FL Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews:1	Long live DNR.. grain is garbage.. grain will never be welcomed if at all possible in my home. I have an old sony vcr if I ever wanted grain I could use. Patton will move to my top 3 to purchase now due to dnr.. SONY Playstation 3 120GB SLIM -> 1TB Time Capsule Backup - SONY sxrd KDS-60A3000 full HD 1080p 120hz - Apple iPhone LittleBigPlanet 3.1.3 PIONEERElite - 910W 7.1-ChVSX-92TXH -BOSE AM 16 Series II (dreaded delux anti blu edition) Twitter: *Entertainment72* PSN: Entertainment72 facebook: Eric Last edited by Entertainment72; 06-09-2008 at 04:04 PM.

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