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Old 07-28-2008, 08:22 PM   #1
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Monster HDMI VS Monoprice

reading many forums and answers from people who know alot more then me i still feel like I am not 100% sure i trust the Monoprice cable.

I work at circuit citiy and i am "pushed to sell monster because of the 68% margin over the cheap 5% margin cables.

this is how i look at it. Yes it is a digital cable it either works or not they both send the 0 1 signal and are both certified for loseless.

correct me if i am wrong but if we look at this the same way compared to a TV why not buy a 1080p vizio or 1080p Element. Vizio is a lot cheaper and would have the same number of lines compared to a 1080p Samsung. But why does the Samsung look better and cost more? I understand it has a big margin but is it not more reliable then a Vizio? wasn't more money put for the best parts and make sure it works? (i know resolution isnt everything)

now lets go back to Monster yes it is more expensive but why is it no one here buying a vizio but a expensive TV and owns the cheap cables? I say you are going to buy a TV once 5-10 years and most people here have a blu ray player and a good home theatre system is the extra $100 really going to kill you after spending over $3000 for top of the line electronics?

for my TV i have all 1000 Monster HDMI and with my employee discoount i get them for $40 but i am sure if i still had to pay full price i would still buy them.

please do correct me i know i do make mistakes.
and for the recod i have nothing against Monoprice i think they are a good website for those who can't afford the $100 HDMI cables

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:25 PM   #2
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the difference is those sammys and sonys can do many things that the vizios and elements can't in terms of showing motion correctly, rendering colors better, etc.

the moster cables don't do anything (or at least to the naked eye and ear as far as i know) that those monoprice cables can't.

My HDMI cable is the "Official" PS3 one I bought from Sony Style for $39.99. So, I have no bias really towards either Monster or Monoprice, but from all the evidence I have seen, Monster gives the customer nothing more than monoprice does.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:27 PM   #3
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For your TV example you're forgetting that it's not just the resolution that matters. Remember CONTRAST first and foremost, color accuracy, 120Hz capability, etc.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:28 PM   #4
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1st off, you're biased. I mean... lookit your name and avatar.

2ndly, your analogy is off. You can't compare complex electronics to a cable. There's much more going on there.

There are few people that say Monster cable is bad. It's just over-marketed, over-hyped and overpriced by a LARGE margin. The amount you pay for them shows that.

You're really not going to get any traction here with this thread. I can afford the more expensive cables. I choose not to part with my money in foolish ways, however.
 
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There are few people that say Monster cable is bad. It's just over-marketed, over-hyped and overpriced by a LARGE margin. The amount you pay for them shows that.
Their cheaper HDMI cables are deliberately limited so that their more expensive cables look better. I would say that is bad.
 
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reading many forums and answers from people who know alot more then me i still feel like I am not 100% sure i trust the Monoprice cable.
You haven't even used a monoprice cable yet, how can you say you don't trust them!? I have a monster 3' M1000 HDMI cable that I paid $130 for and I also have a monoprice 6' 1.3a HDMI cable that was $25. They do exactly the same thing. I tested them directly from the player to the tv and there was absolutely no difference. I use them both now as I need both to get HD audio, but there is no discernable video difference between the two.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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Their cheaper HDMI cables are deliberately limited so that their more expensive cables look better. I would say that is bad.
On paper, anyway. I'm not sure they're truly limited except in materials.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:35 PM   #8
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I may start my own HDMI cable thread...
Reality is a commodity
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:35 PM   #9
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http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=58295&page=2

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i will tell you the truth about Monster cables. Yes it is going to show the same as a $5 cable from monoprice. Monster cable is all mark up (68% i believe) as long as the cable is 1.3 and certified for DTS-HD and Dolby TRUE HD you are fine.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #10
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I may start my own HDMI cable thread...
i got a really good idea and you can use it if you want to.

Make a thread that discusses the different levels of grain that appear when you vary your HDMI cable on The Dark Knight.
 
Old 07-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #11
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Monster is not bad, just overpriced. Cable quality becomes much more important on long runs, but I think one thing that also gets overlooked is that HDMI 1.3 requires EQing the signal so the higher frequencies transmit and receive more reliably. So even a average 20-m cable may perform just as well as higher quality cable over the same distance.

With that being said, I use a 25-ft Monoprice 1.3 HDMI cable from my receiver to my Epson 1080UB projector w/o issue. The PS3 set to 1080p is my main source. The cable cost me $40. Monster cable would have cost me well into the 3-digits.

Clint DeBoer at Audioholics recently did some testing of HDMI cables and I think that the end result was that at short lengths (under 2m) every cable could transmit the current HDMI maximum datarate.
4k... really? Can't we just be happy with BD for a while.

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:41 PM   #12
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1st off, you're biased. I mean... lookit your name and avatar.

2ndly, your analogy is off. You can't compare complex electronics to a cable. There's much more going on there.

There are few people that say Monster cable is bad. It's just over-marketed, over-hyped and overpriced by a LARGE margin. The amount you pay for them shows that.

You're really not going to get any traction here with this thread. I can afford the more expensive cables. I choose not to part with my money in foolish ways, however.
I agree with everything you said. Like the OP said, a digital cable works or it doesn't. I don't understand the TV comparison. With Monster, you're paying for the advertising, marketing, trademarks, lawsuits, copyrights, patents, ect. Why waste your money just for a name? Also, I've heard people say "well, I go with Monster because it's a good name and I have a peace of mind with the lifetime warantee." First off, are you serious about buying something that costs significantly more because of the name? Secondly, Monoprice cables have "lifetime warantees" too, so that's not a valid argument. Please stop defending Monster. People have the right to not like a product and speak their thoughts. And when people are on rants because they're responding to people's rebuttal to people defending Monster, don't come in saying "I hate when people bash Bose and Monster. It's like they have nothing else to do." I don't care if you don't like it. Nobody here wants to hear it.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:41 PM   #13
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Kind of says it all, eh? Owned by his own post.
 
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just ordered a HDMI cable from monoprice i want to get my hands one one and check to see if any noticeable differences are available.
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You had a terrible comparison. You did however nail it on the head. It is all about the stores margin not the quality. I bet if monoprice had a huge markup just like monster you would love them to death too. A digital cable is a digital cable all in essence the same.
 
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Which store do you work at so we can make sure we tell people to avoid it

A 30k Lancer Evolution can keep up with a 200k+ Lamborghini around a track. Sure, the Lamborghini looks better. But if performance is paramount . . . why waste the extra cash?

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Old 07-28-2008, 08:45 PM   #17
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the difference is those sammys and sonys can do many things that the vizios and elements can't in terms of showing motion correctly, rendering colors better, etc.

the moster cables don't do anything (or at least to the naked eye and ear as far as i know) that those monoprice cables can't.

My HDMI cable is the "Official" PS3 one I bought from Sony Style for $39.99. So, I have no bias really towards either Monster or Monoprice, but from all the evidence I have seen, Monster gives the customer nothing more than monoprice does.
I too am using the sony hdmi cables that are for the PS3. 1 for the PS3, one on my BD-P1500 and 1 for my HD-DVD player. They all work fine. Monster may make some nice cables, but am I really going to notice a big difference! Im kinda doubting it.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:45 PM   #18
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:48 PM   #19
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
Bluejeans cable is also very highly regarded here. Hell, they're fighting off ridiculous Monster lawsuits right now (that your sales are helping fund. )
 
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many of you are monoprice supporters...when i get the cable and test it i might join you guys
Then why come did you defend Monster and make Monoprice cables sound inferior?

Edit: You're making me bring the street out in me.
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