Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[GlenR]

I've never understood why Jackson felt like the Ents needed to be fooled either. It would have been easier to follow the book and leave out the dumb part where Treebeard calls the other Ents and they instantly appear.

While I know the reality of film making prevented the movies from following the books verbatim there were several dumb parts that should have been left alone.

The reluctance of Aragon to accept his destiny was completely stupid.

The leaving out of the scouring of the Shire could have been done as a 15 minute narrative. If it was a time issue the stupid skulls and pirates scenes could have been left out.

[Barbie-Shrimp]

Originally Posted by GlenR

The reluctance of Aragon to accept his destiny was completely stupid.

For someone that loves the book so much, you should know that his name is Aragorn.

[billypoe]

Originally Posted by Barbie-Shrimp

For someone that loves the book so much, you should know that his name is Aragorn.

[LORDs_angellos]

Originally Posted by Barbie-Shrimp

For someone that loves the book so much, you should know that his name is Aragorn.

Unless he's referring to the Autonomous Community by that name in northern Spain... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aragon

Yeah... I didn't think so.

[Grandpa-Blu]

My dad's name is Aragon and even he knew it was Aragorn. I'm old and my dad is dead.

[Young-at-heart]

Originally Posted by Grandpa-Blu

My dad's name is Aragon and even he knew it was Aragorn. I'm old and my dad is dead.

You're dad is dead? Good God, you're old!

[smgreen20]

From PJ himself...May 28th, 2008

”We are working on a blu ray version of the LOTR trilogy with Warner Bros at the moment, not sure when it is due for release. It certainly won't be this year.”

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by GlenR

I've never understood why Jackson felt like the Ents needed to be fooled either. It would have been easier to follow the book and leave out the dumb part where Treebeard calls the other Ents and they instantly appear.

While I know the reality of film making prevented the movies from following the books verbatim there were several dumb parts that should have been left alone.

The reluctance of Aragon to accept his destiny was completely stupid.

The leaving out of the scouring of the Shire could have been done as a 15 minute narrative. If it was a time issue the stupid skulls and pirates scenes could have been left out.

I don't have a problem with the exclusion of the Scouring of the Shire -- I have a big problem with the exclusion of some of the most powerful moments of Tolkien's Return of the King, namely damn near everything that happens to Sam once he discovers Frodo wasn't killed by Shelob up until he rescues Frodo at the top of the tower of Cirith Ungol -- hell, even the lame Rankin/Bass adaptation got those scenes right. All of them cut by Boyens and Walsh, but they gave screen time to Legolas surfing a giant elephant.

[Barbie-Shrimp]

Rankin/Bass got something right?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Barbie-Shrimp

Rankin/Bass got something right?

Yeah -- they got the Choices of Master Samwise right, and they got Sam's rescue of Frodo right. For all the goofiness of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, you never saw Sam and Frodo taken to Osgiliath so Frodo could offer the Ring to a Nazgul and then pull a sword on Sam all to make Faramir realize the Ring was bad business. They also didn't have Denethor run for a flaming mile or so to leap off the citadel of Gondor, nor did they have the Ents tricked into going to war, nor have Gimli crack jokes about dwarf tossing or needing a box to stand on to fight Orcs.

[AintNoSin]

If this thread is just going to be vehicle for obsessive Tolkein-ophiles to bash the movies, I'm going to unsubscribe until there is actual Blu-ray news to complain abou-, er, discuss.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by smgreen20

From PJ himself...May 28th, 2008

”We are working on a blu ray version of the LOTR trilogy with Warner Bros at the moment, not sure when it is due for release. It certainly won't be this year.”

Dear god lets hope its the Extended Editions. Or this is a no sale for me

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

If this thread is just going to be vehicle for obsessive Tolkein-ophiles to bash the movies, I'm going to unsubscribe until there is actual Blu-ray news to complain abou-, er, discuss.

I have to say that I am a Tolkien nut, and, while I disagreed with some changes, those movies were like a dream come true. For everything they got wrong, they got 50 things right. The casting was genious. The sets were perfect. The acting was great. The battle scenes were the best in motion picture history. I truly felt like I was in Middle-earth.

Has anyone searched it, it says 'The Fellowship of the Ring' is due 2009 but doesn't say a date for the next 2.
http://www.blu-ray.com/search/?actio...d+of+the+rings

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by BaronVH

I have to say that I am a Tolkien nut, and, while I disagreed with some changes, those movies were like a dream come true. For everything they got wrong, they got 50 things right. The casting was genious. The sets were perfect. The acting was great. The battle scenes were the best in motion picture history. I truly felt like I was in Middle-earth.

I would say that ratio is correct...maybe 25 to 1, but in general, I agree. When everything else is so perfect, it makes the lapses in Boyens' and Walsh's screenplays that much more noticeable.

[BLUNT]

Originally Posted by Grandpa-Blu

My dad's name is Aragon and even he knew it was Aragorn. I'm old and my dad is dead.

Yer my boy Grandpa-Blu!

[mredman]

Originally Posted by ROBSON C~W~B

Has anyone searched it, it says 'The Fellowship of the Ring' is due 2009 but doesn't say a date for the next 2.
http://www.blu-ray.com/search/?actio...d+of+the+rings

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loo at the running time. This IS NOT THE Extended Editions released on Blu what the F is warner thinking

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by mredman

DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loo at the running time. This IS NOT THE Extended Editions released on Blu what the F is warner thinking

Relax. Warners hasn't released any specs at all, so the running times are just placeholders.

[ajmrowland]

Originally Posted by 8SilverSky

I don't think they can do Seamless Branching for The Lord of the Rings. Remember that the Extended Cuts were made with a whole new "look" on the movie. Howard Shore added music, and some parts in the Theatrical version will have different music in the Extended version. Maybe if they were to duplicate certain scenes, but that might become a little complicated... That's just my thought on the whole story :P Anyway, I'm really looking forward to LOTR on Blu-ray (and, this is my first forum post here ).

Might I add that the little scene between merry and pippin after the Pelenor fields battle was changed to night in the EE.

[ajmrowland]

Originally Posted by GlenR

I've never understood why Jackson felt like the Ents needed to be fooled either. It would have been easier to follow the book and leave out the dumb part where Treebeard calls the other Ents and they instantly appear.

While I know the reality of film making prevented the movies from following the books verbatim there were several dumb parts that should have been left alone.

The reluctance of Aragon to accept his destiny was completely stupid.

The leaving out of the scouring of the Shire could have been done as a 15 minute narrative. If it was a time issue the stupid skulls and pirates scenes could have been left out.

According to Jackson. Not having that moment would make the two hobbits nothing more than "Extra Baggage" plus, obviously, they thought Aragorn needed a little struggle. And the Scouring of the Shire would be anticlimactic. People r waaaayyyyy too critical.