christmas story ultimate collectors edition - Blu-ray Forum

LUkassZ · 10-10-2008, 03:10 AM

Does anyone know if the ultimate collectors edition will be better than the previously released bluray edition. I excitedly bought it when it was first released and it was complete garbage! stereo audio and lackluster video quality comparable to the DVD!

I know the second release of full metal jacket was much better, crossing my fingers that the same will go for this film...

sonicbox · 10-10-2008, 06:50 PM

By the way, the original movie was mono... so the last Blu-Ray was mono, too, and not even stereo.

I wouldn't expect any stunning visual improvement from this very low budget - but beloved - film. And I definitely wouldn't be too excited about a bad fake 5.1 or stereo mix.

saginawjuggalo · 10-10-2008, 07:05 PM

It's gonna be the same encode. It was reported on the front page news a while back.

St. John Smythe · 10-10-2008, 07:19 PM

I was also wondering, since there is also a new regular Blu-Ray edition coming out to without all the special packaging and new cover art.

sonicbox · 10-10-2008, 07:56 PM

The previous report of the master being identical was never an official statement from Warner. Full details weren't announced at the time. We'll see... but as I said, it likely won't make much of a difference.

olds403 · 10-10-2008, 08:28 PM

Considering that this was a low budget film released in the 80's I think it looks great. I don't understand why people wish to have a mono, mostly dialog driven movie remixed in super duper 7.1 surround. The movie would not benefit from it, the mono soundtrack is adequate. This is not an effects driven movie, it would benefit very little from surround remixing.

jimmymiro12 · 10-11-2008, 05:59 PM

I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

CheapChildren · 10-11-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmymiro12

I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

Where did you hear this?

jephdood · 10-11-2008, 08:34 PM

I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

SeanMF · 10-11-2008, 10:27 PM

So is the new version dd 5.1 now?

RedIsNotBlue · 10-11-2008, 10:37 PM

Yeah I just got the original release and I got say it looks and sounds just fine. I don't really understand why people would get so mad at this movie not having 5.1 audio it really wouldn't benefit it much at all.

jceperley · 10-12-2008, 12:01 AM

Found this on amazon:

I know its hard to read, but if you look closely in the grid, you can see that the specs looks to be the exact same as what we've already got. Just some new cover and (probably) disc art. Then you have the big tin that comes with all the little extras, which I'm probably gonna double dip on, but maybe I'll just stick with the DVD, cause Warners doesn't seem to want to make this one of those ones that improves with blu (too bad MGM doesn't still have the rights, imagine what they- through Fox- could do, DTS HD and a bunch of BD only extras).

olds403 · 10-12-2008, 12:58 PM

How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

sfmarine · 10-12-2008, 01:02 PM

Eh I think I'll pass...there's nothing great about this double dip...except the cookie cutters I guess. Anyone know how big the tin will be? Will it be BD size or dvd size?

RedIsNotBlue · 10-12-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olds403

How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

Oh come on that car chase scene with Ralphie and when him and his family go to that Metallica concert DTS-HD would make this movie kickass.

DVDSleuth · 10-18-2008, 02:48 AM

This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

Sir Platypus · 10-18-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jephdood

I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

The Fudge scene in 7.1. The sound just circling around you would be hilarious.

DigitalfreakNYC · 10-18-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDSleuth

This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

I'm assuming it's single layer as well?

Switchblade9 · 10-18-2008, 05:19 PM

It would be kind of fun to hear "the old man" cursing and clanking around in the cellar as he tries to get the furnace working. Or the Bumpus dogs running through the livingroom with the Christmas turkey. But I don't think the studio is going to spend the money to do it.

DVDSleuth · 10-31-2008, 03:34 AM

Just adding a second note that this is the exact same disc as the previous release. The final proof -- I watched a few minutes of the "new" disc (coming 11/4) and then I put in the "old" release and my PS3 read it as the same BD and started playing from the same spot.

10-10-2008, 03:10 AM	#1
LUkassZ Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	christmas story ultimate collectors edition Does anyone know if the ultimate collectors edition will be better than the previously released bluray edition. I excitedly bought it when it was first released and it was complete garbage! stereo audio and lackluster video quality comparable to the DVD! I know the second release of full metal jacket was much better, crossing my fingers that the same will go for this film...

10-10-2008, 07:05 PM	#3
saginawjuggalo Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Saginaw, MI Blu-ray collection:849 DVD collection:90 PS3 collection:6 Trading Score:1	It's gonna be the same encode. It was reported on the front page news a while back. My Blu-ray Statistics Sanyo PLV-Z2000, False-wall/swing-up 126" acoustically transparent screen w/masking bars, 7.1 Paradigm Studios, Onkyo TX-NR818 powering 4 Rears, Emotiva LPA-1 (front: L,C,R), Behringer EP4000, Stereo Integrity HT 18"s x2, MiniDSP, Sony BDP‑S590, Sony Slim PS3, HTPC/Gaming PC, Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD, Dish-Network VIP622 HD DVR, Dorel Granville Theater seating, Panasonic TH-50PX60U, Gigantic outdoor antenna, APC H15 power conditioner, Logitech Harmony Smart Control pre-order

10-11-2008, 10:27 PM	#10
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10-12-2008, 01:02 PM	#14
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10-10-2008, 06:50 PM	#2
sonicbox Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	By the way, the original movie was mono... so the last Blu-Ray was mono, too, and not even stereo. I wouldn't expect any stunning visual improvement from this very low budget - but beloved - film. And I definitely wouldn't be too excited about a bad fake 5.1 or stereo mix.

10-10-2008, 07:19 PM	#4
St. John Smythe New Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:59 DVD collection:36	I was also wondering, since there is also a new regular Blu-Ray edition coming out to without all the special packaging and new cover art.

10-10-2008, 07:56 PM	#5
sonicbox Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	The previous report of the master being identical was never an official statement from Warner. Full details weren't announced at the time. We'll see... but as I said, it likely won't make much of a difference.

10-10-2008, 08:28 PM	#6
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	Considering that this was a low budget film released in the 80's I think it looks great. I don't understand why people wish to have a mono, mostly dialog driven movie remixed in super duper 7.1 surround. The movie would not benefit from it, the mono soundtrack is adequate. This is not an effects driven movie, it would benefit very little from surround remixing.

10-11-2008, 05:59 PM	#7
jimmymiro12 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray collection:225 Trading Score:5	I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

10-11-2008, 08:34 PM	#9
jephdood Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Auburn, WA Blu-ray collection:878 Trading Score:87	I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

10-11-2008, 10:37 PM	#11
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:321 PS3 collection:16 Trading Score:80	Yeah I just got the original release and I got say it looks and sounds just fine. I don't really understand why people would get so mad at this movie not having 5.1 audio it really wouldn't benefit it much at all.

10-12-2008, 12:01 AM	#12
jceperley Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:vancouver, bc Blu-ray collection:44	Found this on amazon: I know its hard to read, but if you look closely in the grid, you can see that the specs looks to be the exact same as what we've already got. Just some new cover and (probably) disc art. Then you have the big tin that comes with all the little extras, which I'm probably gonna double dip on, but maybe I'll just stick with the DVD, cause Warners doesn't seem to want to make this one of those ones that improves with blu (too bad MGM doesn't still have the rights, imagine what they- through Fox- could do, DTS HD and a bunch of BD only extras).

10-12-2008, 12:58 PM	#13
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

10-18-2008, 02:48 AM	#16
DVDSleuth Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:822	This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

10-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#19
Switchblade9 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:California Blu-ray collection:374	It would be kind of fun to hear "the old man" cursing and clanking around in the cellar as he tries to get the furnace working. Or the Bumpus dogs running through the livingroom with the Christmas turkey. But I don't think the studio is going to spend the money to do it.

10-31-2008, 03:34 AM	#20
DVDSleuth Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:822	Just adding a second note that this is the exact same disc as the previous release. The final proof -- I watched a few minutes of the "new" disc (coming 11/4) and then I put in the "old" release and my PS3 read it as the same BD and started playing from the same spot.

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