Can you still by the original star wars trilogy untouched??? - Blu-ray Forum

johnnyblackout22 · 01-30-2009, 06:41 PM

You know, before Lucas went in and changed stuff

P@t_Mtl · 01-30-2009, 06:43 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Epis...3344583&sr=8-5

red_5ive · 01-30-2009, 06:49 PM

I take it you mean dvd since no SW films have made it on blu yet. A dvd set was released I think 2 or 3 years ago, but the source if I recall was a laserdisc master from early-mid 90's. Be warned that untouched is completely untouched. The picture wasn't cleaned up, and the audio is only Dolby 2.0, direct from the LD master.

edit: looks like P@t Mtl found it.

LynxFX · 01-30-2009, 06:57 PM

Unfortunately those DVD releases, the original versions are treated as 'extras' and are highly compressed, and non anamorphic to boot. A total waste of time.

toef · 01-30-2009, 07:09 PM

Are there any significant changes other than the Han/Greedo Shot First controversy? I'm not a huge SW fan, so I don't really know many of the differences, but that one is talked about so much that I think everyone must know about it.

Maybe Lucas can edit the scene again, to make it more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Asjh-HjRE

red_5ive · 01-30-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by toefer

Are there any significant changes other than the Han/Greedo Shot First controversy? I'm not a huge SW fan, so I don't really know many of the differences, but that one is talked about so much that I think everyone must know about it.

Maybe Lucas can edit the scene again, to make it more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Asjh-HjRE

I didn't realize there was any controversy over this, and I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms. In the original 1977 film, Greedo never fired a shot. Greedo firing was added later in the special edition releases.

andyman1970 · 01-30-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by toefer

Are there any significant changes other than the Han/Greedo Shot First controversy? I'm not a huge SW fan, so I don't really know many of the differences, but that one is talked about so much that I think everyone must know about it.

Maybe Lucas can edit the scene again, to make it more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Asjh-HjRE

Yea. The whole scene with Jabba the Hut was never in the original release. It was cut from the final edit and the actual scene was filmed with a regular guy.

toef · 01-30-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by red_5ive

I didn't realize there was any controversy over this, and I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms. In the original 1977 film, Greedo never fired a shot. Greedo firing was added later in the special edition releases.

Well I thought the controversy was that Lucas felt a need to go back and change the movie, to make Greedo shoot first, so that little kids could still admire Han Solo.

At least Lucas seems to have a sense of humor about it now:

nycomet · 01-30-2009, 11:06 PM

In the special edition when the scene with Jabba and Han Solo walking together (or should I say "slithering" in Jabba's case), I thought that Jabba seemed somewhat "small" in the scene. It also seemed to me that Jabba's movements were very effeminate. Considering his flaming cousin in Clone Wars, perhaps the Hutts are all either gay or bi-sexual.

Astalder · 01-30-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nycomet

Considering his flaming cousin in Clone Wars, perhaps the Hutts are all either gay or bi-sexual.

A thought I could have died never having had...

Variable · 01-30-2009, 11:28 PM

he's small and awkward because there isn't really enough room for him in the scene that was shot. see: han elevating a few inches when he "steps on his tail".

ugh. I hate thinking about that. I'll take the originals in terrible quality over the special editions.

full disclosure: I own both sets of the trilogy on dvd.

red_5ive · 01-31-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Variable

ugh. I hate thinking about that. I'll take the originals in terrible quality over the special editions.

Agreed. I actually watch them on my gamer rig as well since my sound card has both DTS Interactive and DD Live so it adds a significant 5.1 improvement to the audio.

jadedeath · 01-31-2009, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toefer

Maybe Lucas can edit the scene again, to make it more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Asjh-HjRE

Alderann shot first... I don't care what anyone says.

Logan

01-30-2009, 06:41 PM	#1
johnnyblackout22 Active Member Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:288 Blu-ray reviews:2	Can you still by the original star wars trilogy untouched??? You know, before Lucas went in and changed stuff

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red_5ive Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:California Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:395 PS3 collection:37 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Hardware reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I take it you mean dvd since no SW films have made it on blu yet. A dvd set was released I think 2 or 3 years ago, but the source if I recall was a laserdisc master from early-mid 90's. Be warned that untouched is completely untouched. The picture wasn't cleaned up, and the audio is only Dolby 2.0, direct from the LD master. edit: looks like P@t Mtl found it. Defeat of deduct must go over defense before detail does.

01-30-2009, 07:09 PM	#5
toef Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2008 Location:Isla Nublar Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Are there any significant changes other than the Han/Greedo Shot First controversy? I'm not a huge SW fan, so I don't really know many of the differences, but that one is talked about so much that I think everyone must know about it. Maybe Lucas can edit the scene again, to make it more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Asjh-HjRE I don't make monkeys, I just train 'em. If you're interested, there might be a Donkey Kong kill screen in a couple minutes. "I have priorities other than blurays." -- some guy that bought movies at Target at 8am, on release day Don't even think about quoting me

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LynxFX Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Venice Baby!	Unfortunately those DVD releases, the original versions are treated as 'extras' and are highly compressed, and non anamorphic to boot. A total waste of time.

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nycomet Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Long Island, N.Y.; 3D blu-rays look stunning; Favorite food: Pizza Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:878 Blu-ray reviews:29 Trading Score:259	In the special edition when the scene with Jabba and Han Solo walking together (or should I say "slithering" in Jabba's case), I thought that Jabba seemed somewhat "small" in the scene. It also seemed to me that Jabba's movements were very effeminate. Considering his flaming cousin in Clone Wars, perhaps the Hutts are all either gay or bi-sexual.

01-30-2009, 11:28 PM	#11
Variable Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Northern New Jersey Blu-ray collection:9	he's small and awkward because there isn't really enough room for him in the scene that was shot. see: han elevating a few inches when he "steps on his tail". ugh. I hate thinking about that. I'll take the originals in terrible quality over the special editions. full disclosure: I own both sets of the trilogy on dvd.

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