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jcs913 · 10-16-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by retablo

I don't trust the general reaction here the same as I don't trust Oscar. Especially when half of the negative reaction comes form people, like yourself, who havent even seen it to judge.

The problem is, very few complained the same way when Fear & Loathing was "re-released" by Criterion... maybe because it's considered a "cooler" film (although Traffic blows it out of the water, narrative-wise)... but it's pretty hypocritical of some to bash Traffic for already having a release, when they don't other titles. A re-release is a re-release... the title doesn't matter.

The problem with Criterion now is they know that the Facebook crowd wants all the 1980-now films in their catalog re-released due to their repetitive comments on their page. They know these titles will sell well because the box says Criterion, even though there is already a BD release out there for much less money. It's brilliant marketing and hopefully gains funds for better projects. The discussion is that it's this 'sheep' mentality by these Facebook posters that holds back other releases that have defined what Criterion has been over the years, a company that releases films others won't take a gamble on. As I have beaten this dead horse many times, they have rights to all the Chaplin films, why are they not being released at a steadier pace?? No one else is going to release them....

retablo · 10-16-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs913

The problem with Criterion now is they know that the Facebook crowd wants all the 1980-now films in their catalog re-released due to their repetitive comments on their page. They know these titles will sell well because the box says Criterion, even though there is already a BD release out there for much less money. It's brilliant marketing and hopefully gains funds for better projects. The discussion is that it's this 'sheep' mentality by these Facebook posters that holds back other releases that have defined what Criterion has been over the years, a company that releases films others won't take a gamble on. As I have beaten this dead horse many times, they have rights to all the Chaplin films, why are they not being released at a steadier pace?? No one else is going to release them....

I don't fully agree with that. Yes, the newer, "bigger" titles will possibly sell more copies and bring revenue to the company — after all, that's what a company needs to exist — but I don't think it has changed the definition of Criterion at all. They still continue to release a mixture of classics, foreign classics, and some pretty obscure films, with newer films peppered in.

Why don't they release Chaplin films faster? Probably because they all need better restoration. That doesn't happen overnight. I assume the master for Traffic was already done - probably form when they released it the first time - so it's a "quicker" release to help fill their slate while they DO work on over films that take longer to prepare. If you want quality, you can't rush them.

Any company has to bow to commercial pressure now and then to stay in business. Some call it selling out, but those people have no idea how real business works. Sure, they could nix all commercial titles, and 1 of 2 things would most likely happen: 1) they would go out of business; or 2) their revenue wold drop, and they would only be able to release 1 or 2 titles a month instead of 4-5. But if that's what some people want...

AgentOrange · 10-16-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Monty70

Should be the regular clear plastic case. I don't think Kagemusha was ever released in any other packaging.

I'm pretty sure this is correct. Mine is in the regular clear case FWIW, but I'm pretty sure I got it off Amazon.

SlickDamian · 10-16-2011, 01:07 AM

The upgrade of Traffic looks like a nice release, and the Godzilla disc looks very nice and loaded with supplements.

Josh5890 · 10-16-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian

The upgrade of Traffic looks like a nice release, and the Godzilla disc looks very nice and loaded with supplements.

Agreed. I rarely get forgein criterions but for Godzilla, I just might have to budge.

Mr. Al · 10-16-2011, 02:55 AM

Been on a Criterion buying spree of late. Bought a couple of days ago:

3 Women
The Four Feathers
Harakiri

Bought today:

Mystery Train
Black Orpheus
My Life as a Dog
If...

I have 5 on the way from Amazon.ca

I bought the MGM Blu of Straw Dogs as well. I wish Criterion had the rights to the film. Still have the Criterion DVD release that I don't plan on selling.

Darkcritic · 10-16-2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JHas

Or maybe I'm just bitter since when I heard that Traffic was being released I thought they meant Tati's Trafic.

THIS

!!! When I first saw the Traffic announcement yesterday, I thought "OMG, Another Tati release!!!!!", then I saw it was Soderbergh's Traffic and was left hugely dissapointed. I don't hate Soderbergh, or his place in the Collection, but seeing this being the only upgrade left me a little bit confused at first. With some many other titles yet to be released in the format (Traffic already has a release by Universal), it just isn't fair

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laennitsud · 10-16-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by laennitsud

How often is the B&N 1/2 off sale?

Anybody?

SpiderBaby · 10-16-2011, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by laennitsud

Anybody?

Twice a year it's been happening. Usually July and November.

laennitsud · 10-16-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

Twice a year it's been happening. Usually July and November.

I guess I know where my October and November paychecks are going. Is it all month?

s00perd00per · 10-16-2011, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by laennitsud

I guess I know where my October and November paychecks are going. Is it all month?

2 weeks.

oildude · 10-16-2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkcritic

I don't hate Soderbergh, or his place in the Collection, but seeing this being the only upgrade left me a little bit confused at first. With some many other titles yet to be released in the format (Traffic already has a release by Universal), it just isn't fair

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I feel the same way. The pace of upgrades being as slow as it is, to get only one for January - and for that one to already be out on blu-ray - is what disappoints me. Would not have minded Traffic getting upgraded if there had been a few more to go along with it.

laennitsud · 10-16-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by s00perd00per

2 weeks.

Thanks!

dwane5 · 10-16-2011, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Al

Been on a Criterion buying spree of late. Bought a couple of days ago:

3 Women
The Four Feathers
Harakiri

Bought today:

Mystery Train
Black Orpheus
My Life as a Dog
If...

I have 5 on the way from Amazon.ca

I bought the MGM Blu of Straw Dogs as well. I wish Criterion had the rights to the film. Still have the Criterion DVD release that I don't plan on selling.

arnt u aware that BN has a sale in november?

Crimson King · 10-16-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oildude

I feel the same way. The pace of upgrades being as slow as it is, to get only one for January - and for that one to already be out on blu-ray - is what disappoints me. Would not have minded Traffic getting upgraded if there had been a few more to go along with it.

hell, I want Jacques Tati's "Trafic" on blu!

s00perd00per · 10-16-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by laennitsud

Thanks!

You should also look around for coupons around that time and possibly the trial membership. Last sale I was getting them for $16 per movie with a coupon and the membership.

Darkcritic · 10-16-2011, 05:03 AM

As a question, why did Tati's Trafic went OOP? It is surprising cause it was a fairly new title in the Collection.

Mr. Al · 10-16-2011, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dwane5

arnt u aware that bn has a sale in november?

bn?

Darkcritic · 10-16-2011, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Al

bn?

Barnes & Nobles

Mr. Al · 10-16-2011, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkcritic

Barnes & Nobles

Never ordered from there. I'm more of a Amazon.ca guy.

10-16-2011, 02:55 AM	#37766
Mr. Al Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Alberta, Canada Blu-ray collection:1610	Been on a Criterion buying spree of late. Bought a couple of days ago: 3 Women The Four Feathers Harakiri Bought today: Mystery Train Black Orpheus My Life as a Dog If... I have 5 on the way from Amazon.ca I bought the MGM Blu of Straw Dogs as well. I wish Criterion had the rights to the film. Still have the Criterion DVD release that I don't plan on selling. PS3 (Bought Jan 1, 2008) Criterions on Blu: 108 HD-DVD: 14

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10-16-2011, 01:07 AM	#37764
SlickDamian Senior Member Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:143 DVD collection:141	The upgrade of Traffic looks like a nice release, and the Godzilla disc looks very nice and loaded with supplements.

10-16-2011, 05:03 AM	#37777
Darkcritic Expert Member Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:155 PS3 collection:25	As a question, why did Tati's Trafic went OOP? It is surprising cause it was a fairly new title in the Collection.