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Old 03-27-2012, 07:13 PM   #47801
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You can't go wrong with Seventh Seal. Beware, I received a faulty disc. It's only a matter of time until Wild Strawberries, Cries and Whispers, and Persona , I hope
I just wonder who might release Persona on blu. It's owned by MGM so does this mean it could see release by them with Fox doing the heavy-lifting?
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:33 PM   #47802
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I would recommend anything BUT "The Magician" for Bergman on blu. In my opinion, it's the least immediately enjoyable one and I would rank it as by far my last choice (despite liking it)
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:37 PM   #47803
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Nice to see Targets hasn't been totally forgotten! Wish Criterion would seriously think about doing it.
Nice I have the TARGETS DVD with his commentary and was thinking of selling it. But It would be nice to see a BLU upgrade.
Stop the Replacing of original Studio Opening / Closing logos! These are becoming endangered and should be kept intact. They are part of film history.

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Old 03-27-2012, 08:27 PM   #47804
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I watched my Criterion copy of Hard Boiled last night. I actually prefer that color scheme to that of the blu-ray.

There is a reason Criterion works with directors and DP's to get the look of the film as it was intended. That was how the film was shot, much like "Do The Right Thing". I refuse to buy the blu of that as well. Messing with colors (I hate to use the term "color correcting" for films that were never intended to have their levels changed in post) should not be done to older films.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:33 PM   #47805
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I watched my Criterion copy of Hard Boiled last night. I actually prefer that color scheme to that of the blu-ray.

There is a reason Criterion works with directors and DP's to get the look of the film as it was intended. That was how the film was shot, much like "Do The Right Thing". I refuse to buy the blu of that as well. Messing with colors (I hate to use the term "color correcting" for films that were never intended to have their levels changed in post) should not be done to older films.
Ernest Dickerson supervised the colour timing of Universal's Blu-ray and Spike Lee approved it, by the way.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #47806
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Nice I have the TARGETS DVD with his commentary and was thinking of selling it. But It would be nice to see a BLU upgrade.
Great Bogdanovich commentary too, and that's why I hope Criterion takes it on. Otherwise, the only other label that seems to have any interest in doing Paramount catalogue titles is Olive, but their quality is all over the map.

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Old 03-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #47807
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Ernest Dickerson supervised the colour timing of Universal's Blu-ray and Spike Lee approved it, by the way.
This is what I've heard as well.

On another topic A Night to Remember has really caught my attention. Never seen it but I do plan on picking this film up sometimes this week.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:45 PM   #47808
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I finally ordered Pierrot Le Fou on blu-ray. It cost me $28 shipped but I heard it's starting to become scarce.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:19 PM   #47809
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Ernest Dickerson supervised the colour timing of Universal's Blu-ray and Spike Lee approved it, by the way.
Approval over something and how it was originally intended when shot are two different things. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is older and wanted to embrace new technology to alter his film. Much like George Lucas does.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:28 PM   #47810
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The David Lean / Noel Coward box of four films was released today. If anyone has the Blu-ray set, please could you confirm how it's packaged. Does each film come in a separate Blu-ray case with its own artwork and booklet? Or is it a multi-disc digipack?

If it's the former, I'm wondering whether some people might start offering the films separately on Amazon or Ebay. I'd be interested in buying Brief Encounter, but I have no particular interest in the other three titles.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:54 PM   #47811
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The David Lean / Noel Coward box of four films was released today. If anyone has the Blu-ray set, please could you confirm how it's packaged. Does each film come in a separate Blu-ray case with its own artwork and booklet? Or is it a multi-disc digipack?

If it's the former, I'm wondering whether some people might start offering the films separately on Amazon or Ebay. I'd be interested in buying Brief Encounter, but I have no particular interest in the other three titles.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:04 PM   #47812
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Many thanks - that answers my question.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:07 AM   #47813
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Packaging doesn't get much sexier than that.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:25 AM   #47814
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I sold Seventh Seal. After watching it several times, I was inclined to agree with David Kehr of The Chicago Reader:
It survives today only as an unusually pure example of a typical 50s art-film strategy: the attempt to make the most modern and most popular of art forms acceptable to the intelligentsia by forcing it into an arcane, antique mold.
If I'm not mistaken, Bergman, himself, repudiated the film. I am not inclined to buy any Bergman films, but have enjoyed several, such as The Magician.
David Kehr is one of the worst film writers and critics I've had the displeasure of reading.

Other then that Seventh Seal is a really good film. Unsure of the replay value for many viewers though. I would recommend to rent it first if possible.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:27 AM   #47815
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I sold Seventh Seal. After watching it several times, I was inclined to agree with David Kehr of The Chicago Reader:
It survives today only as an unusually pure example of a typical 50s art-film strategy: the attempt to make the most modern and most popular of art forms acceptable to the intelligentsia by forcing it into an arcane, antique mold.
If I'm not mistaken, Bergman, himself, repudiated the film. I am not inclined to buy any Bergman films, but have enjoyed several, such as The Magician.
As we surmise from Fanny & Alexander, Bergman had a rather repressive Swedish Protestant upbringing (normally Protestants are pretty easygoing compared to the Catholics, but the Nordic countries are the bad neighborhood)--
And Seal was his troubled-childhood athie excuse to associate The Church with medieval plague-era imagery, and complain that it set out to do nothing but scare folks into submission with fears of death and mortality....Umm, yeah. Basically, Bergman meets Bill Maher.

As a piece of cinematography and editing, it would be a classic, if it didn't lose a point for being directed by a petulant whiner.
(Me, the only Criterion Bergman on my shelf is "The Magic Flute", which was mostly his one "un-Bergman" film for a lark, but it's long overdue for a Blu version.)

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Old 03-28-2012, 03:38 AM   #47816
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Thanks for the post, I'll definitely have to check a couple of those out
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I hope you will enjoy seeing them
Thanks. From what I hear it's pretty can't miss (unless you are impatient).

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Old 03-28-2012, 03:50 AM   #47817
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I want to get a Ingmar Bergman film on BD. I was thinking of starting with 'Seventh Seal'. Good or bad idea? I really would like "Wild Strawberrys' on BD as I really like the cut that I've seen. Plus, any chance his films are released in Sweden on BD? I'm going there in June.
My favorite is Wild Strawberries, but I'd hold out for a possible Blu if you are the type who hates upgrading but does so anyway. Not that such folks linger on these boards.

Blu-wise... Seventh Seal was my first Bergman and the Blu is stellar as is the doc included in the set. So that'd be my main vote.

If you tend to enjoy comedies, I second the vote for Smiles of a Summer Night, which I think is a delightfully spry film and something that surprised me from Bergman. Afterwards, pop in Woody Allen's A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy.

As others have stated, Fanny and Alexander is an easy recommend. I've never seen The Magician, but by all accounts it looks like I need to check it out.

Thank goodness for the film snobs on this board; without 'em, where would I be?

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Ernest Dickerson supervised the colour timing of Universal's Blu-ray and Spike Lee approved it, by the way.
He also approved the color timing of the old Criterion DVD with the different colors. NIce when people flip flop and don't know which one is correct.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:51 AM   #47819
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I want to get a Ingmar Bergman film on BD. I was thinking of starting with 'Seventh Seal'. Good or bad idea? I really would like "Wild Strawberrys' on BD as I really like the cut that I've seen. Plus, any chance his films are released in Sweden on BD? I'm going there in June.
You don't have any Bergman?? Shame on you.

Seventh Seal is his most iconic, and one of his most dense films IMO. In many ways, I prefer Fanny & Alexander. My other favorites of his — Through A Glass darkly, Persona and The Silence — aren't on blu yet.
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Packaging doesn't get much sexier than that.
But is having spine 76 in a boxset after 606 going to cause some serious OCD freakouts???
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