The Star Trek Original 6 movies thread - Blu-ray Forum

blu-ballz · 04-30-2009, 03:31 AM

Please Make it so

what does anyone know so far? where are the reviews? what is PQ like based on the other country versions that are out? Kinda surprised to find no big discussion on this monumental movie box set.

Blu-ray.com Review

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DVDave · 04-30-2009, 05:12 AM

Maybe because it's not released until May 12.

iwanttobeabmoviestar · 04-30-2009, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDave

Maybe because it's not released until May 12.

i think hes referring to the advance copies reviewers get

DVDave · 04-30-2009, 05:37 AM

In that case they are probably still watching them.

blu-ballz · 04-30-2009, 05:40 AM

People have them in other countries and I don't think they are promo copies. Can we not assume the UK and US actual picture quality might be the same? See this thread talking about a problem with Part VI: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=96918

HE1NZ · 04-30-2009, 12:08 PM

By the way, the new 5.1 remixes are awesome.
A huge improvement over DVDs.

DetroitSportsFan · 04-30-2009, 12:09 PM

There's complaints about DNR and EE over on AVS Forum, but what else is new.

Some screencaps here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=243

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=260

Comparison pics between the Blu and DVD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=263

monkeyjb1988 · 04-30-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HE1NZ

By the way, the new 5.1 remixes are awesome.
A huge improvement over DVDs.

I thought they were 7.1. Weird.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

There's complaints about DNR and EE over on AVS Forum, but what else is new.

Some screencaps here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=243

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=260

Comparison pics between the Blu and DVD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=263

Those pics are AWESOME!

*to self* Must hold off for ten movie set, must hold off for ten moveiset *end self*. Love the comaprison one.

Little worried about talk of DNR and EE. The pics look fine, but I'll wait for a review to know for sure.

SBrooks1 · 04-30-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyjb1988

Those pics are AWESOME!

*to self* Must hold off for ten movie set, must hold off for ten moveiset *end self*. Love the comaprison one.

Little worried about talk of DNR and EE. The pics look fine, but I'll wait for a review to know for sure.

You think those pics look awesome? Seriously? I was excited to get these too until I saw those screen caps. Looks like a DNR nightmare. Definitely waiting for a proper review now but more than likely I won't buy anyway after seeing those.

Mr.Sparkle · 04-30-2009, 07:39 PM

I hope BlockBuster plans on having the movies available to rent separately, currently there not on their website, cause I plan on renting them.

Clark Kent · 04-30-2009, 08:14 PM

Those screen captures do not look that great. Pretty bad DNR has been used or the masters are out of date. I have the set already ordered but those pictures do not inspire confidence.

Stuart_Larkin · 04-30-2009, 08:17 PM

I'm thinking i will Cancel my order and wait for a better set.
I have never seen star trek. I just bought the Season 1 set today and i'm going to be watching the show for the first time later on today. I don't believe I will become a trekkie, so i figured watching these movies it wouldn't matter if I saw the Directors cut or not still if the directors cuts are indeed the ones to watch then parhaps i'm just best waiting around. Problem is i don't think I will see this set for less then 80 dollars until the next set comes out. But who knows maybe i won't even like Star Trek...

borninusa · 04-30-2009, 08:29 PM

Wow...never seen Trek?

There is actually one person in the world.

SoCalTiger · 04-30-2009, 08:56 PM

Yeah, while better than the DVD those screencaps really do not look good. Personally, I suspect DNR due to the almost total lack of any grain.

Also, it is crazy that someone has never seen ST.

HeavyHitter · 04-30-2009, 09:05 PM

New releases by Paramount usually look quite good.

However, too many of their catalog titles seem to stem from out-of-date masters (used for DVD years ago) which contain far too much DNR and EE. It seems they were too cheap to create new masters.

I will pass on these.

Blu-man08 · 05-01-2009, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

It seems they were too cheap to create new masters.

It's safe to assume that new masters were struck for TMP and TUC, since they are the original theatrical versions and have never seen the light of DVD let alone BD. I'm waiting for proper reviews to come in before writing this set off.

fighthefutureofhd · 05-01-2009, 01:52 AM

the original theatrical release of star trek 6: the undiscovered country has been put out on dvd. it was first released that way.

jc480 · 05-01-2009, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

There's complaints about DNR and EE over on AVS Forum, but what else is new.

Some screencaps here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=243

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=260

Comparison pics between the Blu and DVD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=263

Thanks for posting these. These BD transfers are HORRIBLE. Look at the plastisizing of this particular scene vis a vie DNR.

Note the contours of the bridge and the background landscape profile...

Blu-man08 · 05-01-2009, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

the original theatrical release of star trek 6: the undiscovered country has been put out on dvd. it was first released that way.

Sorry, but you're mistaken. The first DVD was the same home video version released in 1992 to VHS and Laserdisc. It contained Rene Aubergonois' bit about cleaning the Klingons' chronometers as well as the Scooby-Doo ending as well as a few other bits of extra footage. It was the only version ever released to home video until the Director's Edition 2 Disc, where Nicholas Meyer added some different close ups McCoy during the Spock/Valeris mind-meld in addition to the previous extra footage. The aspect ratio was different from the theatrical version as well, 2.11:1 or something like that. The BD will be the first time the original theatrical version of VI has ever been released to home video.

HeavyHitter · 05-01-2009, 02:54 AM

They virtually removed all of the grain in that shot^. What's left almost looks like compression artifacting.

04-30-2009, 03:31 AM	#1
blu-ballz Member Member since:Jan 2008	The Star Trek Original 6 movies thread Please Make it so what does anyone know so far? where are the reviews? what is PQ like based on the other country versions that are out? Kinda surprised to find no big discussion on this monumental movie box set. Blu-ray.com Review . Last edited by Deciazulado; 05-26-2009 at 01:34 AM. Reason: link

04-30-2009, 07:39 PM	#10
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04-30-2009, 08:29 PM	#13
borninusa Power Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:1239 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:20	Wow...never seen Trek? There is actually one person in the world. Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny

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04-30-2009, 05:12 AM	#2
DVDave Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	Maybe because it's not released until May 12.

04-30-2009, 05:37 AM	#4
DVDave Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	In that case they are probably still watching them.

04-30-2009, 05:40 AM	#5
blu-ballz Member Member since:Jan 2008	People have them in other countries and I don't think they are promo copies. Can we not assume the UK and US actual picture quality might be the same? See this thread talking about a problem with Part VI: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=96918

04-30-2009, 12:08 PM	#6
HE1NZ Member Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:2	By the way, the new 5.1 remixes are awesome. A huge improvement over DVDs.

04-30-2009, 12:09 PM	#7
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Detroit, MI Blu-ray collection:1532 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:2	There's complaints about DNR and EE over on AVS Forum, but what else is new. Some screencaps here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=243 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=260 Comparison pics between the Blu and DVD: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=263

04-30-2009, 08:14 PM	#11
Clark Kent Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:27	Those screen captures do not look that great. Pretty bad DNR has been used or the masters are out of date. I have the set already ordered but those pictures do not inspire confidence.

04-30-2009, 08:17 PM	#12
Stuart_Larkin Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:515 DVD collection:4 PS3 collection:30	I'm thinking i will Cancel my order and wait for a better set. I have never seen star trek. I just bought the Season 1 set today and i'm going to be watching the show for the first time later on today. I don't believe I will become a trekkie, so i figured watching these movies it wouldn't matter if I saw the Directors cut or not still if the directors cuts are indeed the ones to watch then parhaps i'm just best waiting around. Problem is i don't think I will see this set for less then 80 dollars until the next set comes out. But who knows maybe i won't even like Star Trek...

04-30-2009, 08:56 PM	#14
SoCalTiger Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:1 PS3 collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Yeah, while better than the DVD those screencaps really do not look good. Personally, I suspect DNR due to the almost total lack of any grain. Also, it is crazy that someone has never seen ST.

04-30-2009, 09:05 PM	#15
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Trading Score:13	New releases by Paramount usually look quite good. However, too many of their catalog titles seem to stem from out-of-date masters (used for DVD years ago) which contain far too much DNR and EE. It seems they were too cheap to create new masters. I will pass on these.

05-01-2009, 01:52 AM	#17
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2008	the original theatrical release of star trek 6: the undiscovered country has been put out on dvd. it was first released that way.

05-01-2009, 02:54 AM	#20
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Trading Score:13	They virtually removed all of the grain in that shot^. What's left almost looks like compression artifacting.