Terminator Salvation

lgans316 · 11-22-2009, 05:20 AM

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id...salvation.html

you’ll see annoying compression problems

My fears have come true. I hope Warner has done a better compression job.

Farid · 11-22-2009, 11:15 AM

I'm sure it looks just fine

wildphantom · 11-22-2009, 04:13 PM

I'm pretty annoyed if the US Warner release has a much higher bit rate transfer.

Why oh why it never occurred to me last week that the single disc UK version would have to have some compromises I don't know. Too late now, and mine has arrived.

Might watch it tonight, but if anyone out there has the US version and can confirm what the average video bit-rate is then I'll consider my options.

Funktion · 11-22-2009, 04:32 PM

Even if the US release has higher bit rate (and if it has, I'm sure it's not by much; if you see the specs for both releases you will notice the US release has the theatrical cut + maximum mode + extras on a single disc, and another disc for the extended cut; since the European release uses branching, the only added thing it has on the disc compared to the first disc of the US release is the 3 minutes of added footage from the extended cut, not enough to introduce significant compression artifacts) it's still not certain the US release looks better.

In the past when certain films where handled in different countries one by Warner and other by another company (Sony, Paramount, ...) I always found the Warner release to look worse than the "competing" release. That's why earlier in this thread I asked if anyone had made a comparison between both releases.
Unfortunately it seems whoever handles compression at Warner still has a lot to learn about the format and these recent codecs.

Funktion · 11-22-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgans316

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id...salvation.html

you’ll see annoying compression problems

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd...salvation.html

Terminator Salvation’s 2.40:1 widescreen transfer (1080/24p AVC) is exactly what you’d expect from a mega-budgeted movie that’s less than six months old. It’s incredibly clean, without a hint of film or even digital artefacts (save for perhaps some very light posterisation that could easily be inherent to the source) and impressively detailed throughout.

Q! · 11-22-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funktion

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd...salvation.html

Terminator Salvation’s 2.40:1 widescreen transfer (1080/24p AVC) is exactly what you’d expect from a mega-budgeted movie that’s less than six months old. It’s incredibly clean, without a hint of film or even digital artefacts (save for perhaps some very light posterisation that could easily be inherent to the source) and impressively detailed throughout.

Good one, why would there be compression artifacts with only 3 min extra and when it features seamless?

BellesPrince · 11-22-2009, 06:38 PM

Watched it yesterday, thought it looked fine.

dominic* · 11-22-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BellesPrince

Watched it yesterday, thought it looked fine.

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General Vyper · 11-22-2009, 11:07 PM

Watched last night, excellent PQ throughout and AQ was fantastic, especially in the first half of the movie where the surround was used to excellent effect to build the tension.

PQ 4/5
AQ 5/5

josuv22 · 11-23-2009, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funktion

Has there been any comparison online between the US set (which has 2 BDs) and the European single disc release?

The single disc release seems to feature all the content (both the 2 cuts and actual extra features) from the US release, but I'm curious about the PQ of both releases.

isn't the second disk in the US one just the crappy digital copy and the main bluray disk is pretty much the same as the UK one

binary · 11-23-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josuv22

isn't the second disk in the US one just the crappy digital copy and the main bluray disk is pretty much the same as the UK one

US Warner Bro is 3 disc

Disc 1 theater cut
Disc 2 extenten Rated R cut
Disc 3 didgital copy

SapGoblin · 11-23-2009, 12:22 PM

so what's the region encoding???

Q! · 11-23-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapGoblin

so what's the region encoding???

idk.
But why are you interested in the UK?

SapGoblin · 11-23-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q!

idk.
But why are you interested in the UK?

because there are better exclusives in different countries...ie.e. the endoskull in the UK, the steelbook in France, etc. etc.!

demiscy · 11-23-2009, 02:02 PM

UK got a PLAY exclusive steel too

Q! · 11-23-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapGoblin

because there are better exclusives in different countries...ie.e. the endoskull in the UK, the steelbook in France, etc. etc.!

Oh, that makes sense

Just wondered what would be wrong with the perfectly fine US version when you happen to live in the US...

Daz_85 · 11-23-2009, 07:17 PM

Anybody got any pics they can post of the UK blu, or the HMV exclusive version?

BellesPrince · 11-23-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominic*

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What's that mean't to mean?

Q! · 11-23-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellesPrince

What's that mean't to mean?

Period.

dominic* · 11-23-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daz_85

Anybody got any pics they can post of the UK blu, or the HMV exclusive version?

(not my pics)

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11-22-2009, 11:15 AM	#62 (permalink)
Farid Power Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (82) HT Gallery: (0)	I'm sure it looks just fine

11-22-2009, 04:13 PM	#63 (permalink)
wildphantom Active Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (132) HT Gallery: (0)	I'm pretty annoyed if the US Warner release has a much higher bit rate transfer. Why oh why it never occurred to me last week that the single disc UK version would have to have some compromises I don't know. Too late now, and mine has arrived. Might watch it tonight, but if anyone out there has the US version and can confirm what the average video bit-rate is then I'll consider my options.

11-22-2009, 04:32 PM	#64 (permalink)
Funktion Active Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Even if the US release has higher bit rate (and if it has, I'm sure it's not by much; if you see the specs for both releases you will notice the US release has the theatrical cut + maximum mode + extras on a single disc, and another disc for the extended cut; since the European release uses branching, the only added thing it has on the disc compared to the first disc of the US release is the 3 minutes of added footage from the extended cut, not enough to introduce significant compression artifacts) it's still not certain the US release looks better. In the past when certain films where handled in different countries one by Warner and other by another company (Sony, Paramount, ...) I always found the Warner release to look worse than the "competing" release. That's why earlier in this thread I asked if anyone had made a comparison between both releases. Unfortunately it seems whoever handles compression at Warner still has a lot to learn about the format and these recent codecs.

11-22-2009, 06:38 PM	#67 (permalink)
BellesPrince Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (122) HT Gallery: (0)	Watched it yesterday, thought it looked fine.

11-22-2009, 11:07 PM	#69 (permalink)
General Vyper Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Watched last night, excellent PQ throughout and AQ was fantastic, especially in the first half of the movie where the surround was used to excellent effect to build the tension. PQ 4/5 AQ 5/5

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demiscy Power Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Trading Score: (1) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	UK got a PLAY exclusive steel too

11-23-2009, 07:17 PM	#77 (permalink)
Daz_85 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (3) HT Gallery: (0)	Anybody got any pics they can post of the UK blu, or the HMV exclusive version?